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 5 years ago '04        #81
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 TIP2009 said:
obamacare is unconstitutional, and read article 3, section 3 of the constitution, it talks about treason, and how doing anything to weaken the resolve, or ability of america to attack or defend against it's enemies is treason....you mean telling me that not standing up for an ally, israel, the sole nation on earth with 99 percent of all nuclear weapons on earth isn't hurting america? no one gives a fu*k...

fu*k america, they voted for obama...the american dream is dead when anyone can wish for socialism whether it's under political, health, or otherwise, but paying for everyone on healthcare is absolutely unamerican and against the constitution...


rich people tend to vote republican, they also tend to watch fox news...

now let's look..they got rich, they didn't have to force anyone at gunpoint, or through taxation to pay for them, or buy their products....regardless of what happens, they bi*ch smacked obama...they won...he had to do it by conning the immigrants, the poor, the stupid....basically...the lower class, or 60 percent of america....why the fu*k do you think you vote democratic? See my fico score, see my cc statement for the last 30 days, I have 10 g's that says it's more than you've charged in the last 12 months....

enough said...
I think you quoted the wrong dude, bud.
 5 years ago '07        #82
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 Decan45 said:
Yeah, by a 5-4 vote... Please...

Hopefully it'll turn out for the best, but in any event it's still not constitutional. There's a lot of unconstitutional things that our government gets away with doing, but that in and of itself doesn't make these things any less unconstitutional simply because they snuck by.
so a 5-4 vote means what? Citizens United passed with a 5-4 vote. Doesn't make it any less legitimate. Supreme Court is the decider, and they said it was constitutional under the taxing powers.
 5 years ago '05        #83
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 TIP2009 said:
obamacare is unconstitutional, and read article 3, section 3 of the constitution, it talks about treason, and how doing anything to weaken the resolve, or ability of america to attack or defend against it's enemies is treason....you mean telling me that not standing up for an ally, israel, the sole nation on earth with 99 percent of all nuclear weapons on earth isn't hurting america? no one gives a fu*k...

fu*k america, they voted for obama...the american dream is dead when anyone can wish for socialism whether it's under political, health, or otherwise, but paying for everyone on healthcare is absolutely unamerican and against the constitution...


rich people tend to vote republican, they also tend to watch fox news...

now let's look..they got rich, they didn't have to force anyone at gunpoint, or through taxation to pay for them, or buy their products....regardless of what happens, they bi*ch smacked obama...they won...he had to do it by conning the immigrants, the poor, the stupid....basically...the lower class, or 60 percent of america....why the fu*k do you think you vote democratic? See my fico score, see my cc statement for the last 30 days, I have 10 g's that says it's more than you've charged in the last 12 months....

enough said...
 SomeOnesoN said:
c'mon man, really?
people that say "don't like it, move _____" are what's wrong with this country. this is our country, the people's. Not the bankers, president, nor elite. wake the fu*k up, you reek of ignorance. I'm not speaking down on you, for some of your comments in other threads I happen to agree with.
I really wish the cynics would let things (including themselves) die already. You and many others like you always comment to complain rather than accept the situation and offer viable solutions. You want to talk about the 'war', but never want to go to war. There is no one on this planet that can reasonably convince me that this isn't the most VILIFIED President EVER! He is far from the worst, and that claim is baseless due to the disregard for the economy he inherited. As an empire we (THE U.S.) have been on top for far too long and there was no where to go fiscally...but down. We have peaked as a country in every way monetarily short of resource theft (i.e. Iraq & Afghanistan). He prevented what was at the time of his election financial ruin for our country! There was no viable option. He was damned if he did (our current market) and damned if he didn't (modern day depression). I do think certain individuals (I won't take the time to specify) should have been fired, prosecuted, fined, and jailed with no monetary lifeline upon release.

What if he didn't bail out the major banks? What then? What if he didn't allow more intercontinental drilling (most of which is EXPORTED anyway)? What if he didn't support green energy and allowed us to continually rely on oil? Yet and still the same critics complain about fuel prices! If you don't offer cheaper alternatives, prices rise in a non-competitive market and fail to stabilize. Because of our stubborn views on energy alternatives initiated by greedy oil barons, we think the failure of two DOE subsidized companies (Solyndra and A123) out of 30 is a reason to stop backing them all together. Solyndra is suing China for antitrust violations (which involved 3 Chinese companies making traditional solar panels real cheap all of a sudden) and will most likely get their money back. A Wilmington, DE. judge just approved bid procedures on A123's bankruptcy procedures 3 days ago and they will more than recoup at least the $130 million in DOE grants. Do you realize how much in subsidies and tax breaks the oil & gas industry gets?

Obama had our major forces pulled out of Iraq and only scaled back on Afghanistan, BUT because he used common sense upon advice from his military cabinet and didn't completely remove our forces he's a lying dictator...huh?

Israel/Palestine/Canaan was stolen from the Palestinians. I don't agree with some of the Palestinian tactics, BUT I also don't agree with Israel's. They were imported there, they were not born in the Middle East region of Asia and had no right to force those NATIVE people into the West Bank & Gaza Strip. Just because Obama and every historian with a brain empathizes with the Palestinians doesn't make them a Jew hating Muslim.

Obamacare/Romneycare is actually universal healthcare. It's a good thing and works rather well when properly & fully implemented. You have a right to not want to pay for it. I don't want to either, but does that make it a bad thing? Do you like paying for roads, bridges, firef!ghters, teachers, and policemmen? Probably not, judging from your as*hole-like comments and condescending exclamations of proposed wealth.I didn't like being seen as 3 fifths of a man in the constitution either. I'm sure you don't care because you think everything should stay the same because it benefits YOU...the poster child of selfish prick. I don't believe in supporting the shiftless and lazy either; however, it's an unfortunate side effect as there are in ALL governmental systems. The only thing un-American is your attitude. Un-American isn't even an actual word, it's a made up term since everyone's definition is different. See spell check uneducated one.


I'm also tired of individuals saying African Americans voted for Obama because he was black. Obama was a Democrat! Democratic policies since the Civil Rights movement have largely served the best interests of minorities, women, veterans, the elderly, the poor, the uneducated, the handicapped, and otherwise disenfranchised. The current Republican policy makers favor old, established white men...period. If Obama was a Republican and talked like Hermain Cain, Alan Keyes, and Allen West then best believe he would not have gotten the majority of the black vote. Hell, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson didn't, and they were Democrat! Do you see Hispanics loving Mark Rubio or Asians loving Michelle Maulkin? The answer is no.

Obama didn't k!ll our soldiers in Benghazi Libya and 4 deaths don't equate with the number of troops that died in fruitless wars started in Iraq, Afghanistan, or your local city! They were k!lled in the line of duty. MAYBE it could have been prevented if the incident was addressed IMMEDIATELY; however, what happened was, soldiers that heard the attack and reported it 3 times to their superiors were told 2 times to stand down and supposely disobeyed orders. When told to stand down the second time, 3 soldiers took it upon themselves to play Rambo and two of them (Doherty & Woods) were subsequently k!lled along with the two diplomats. Let's say my 'intel' is false and what I mentioned never happened. What if the diplomats were given added security as requested prior to the attack? More people would have died and more blame would have been placed.

I could write forever, but I know most people don't read especially if you don't write what they want to hear. As has been alluded to, every consummate hater of Obama and supporter of Romney is generally (not entirely, but generally) an angry, old, rich, white man or self-hating social outcast (i.e Coulter, Rice, Maulkin, Cain, West, etc.) aka Republican policy lover. Notice I said hate () not dislike. I don't hate Romney, and I didn't even hate Bush (Cheyney maybe lol). Ask yourself, WHY do you REALLY hate Obama enough to continually complain...especially when you know how he's been treated by Congress is UNPRECEDENTED.

P.S. - I'm also tired of idiots who failed social studies talking about a Democrat led House & Senate of two years without being familiar with the voting process in the House & Senate! Irregardless, the current situation is as follows so try & comprehend -
 5 years ago '04        #84
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 notoriousthugzz said:
and how many of you obama supporters can say why hes a good president?
he's not GHW Bush! your short memory is devoid of the 8 years of Bush, which caused a domino affect.. Why is Obama good?? he stopped the hemorrhaging caused by Bush and his ineptitude... He saved millions of jobs by saving the auto industry.. He has done some things wrong, but compared to Bush... I'll take Obama today, and the next 4 years..

So, lets review... he inherited a country on the brink of financial ruin.. we're involved in two wars started under false pretenses, that aren't being paid for.. The housing market is in the tank, the auto industry has nearly gone bankrupt, and jobs were being lost at a record rate.. He's addressed these things, along with giving the order to k!ll Bin Laden.. (to whom Bush just could not seem to find..)

so, to put this in smaller terms that you may be able to process.. if you fu*ked up your personal finances for 8 years, bought a couple of cars, and houses on credit, along with losing your job, have 4 kids, do you honestly think you can fix your poverty-level finances overnight? NO! I doubt you could dig your way out of that kind of hole...

so, Bush gets 8 years to create the mess, yet people like you want Obama to go into office and fix it overnight, and when he doesn't he's "the Bad President"..

but I guess you're a Bush supporter... and you thought Palin was a right choice for VP.. Please tell me you don't have the right to vote? doesn't matter, too late... Obama is back in office...
 5 years ago '04        #85
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Well said! and Yes, I read the entire post! Its easy for those with short memories to attack whats new and different.. Its the thing that makes people uncomfortable that scares them the most. The far right was far to extreme in their views to garner enough votes to win. This is a multi-cultural, multi-racial society in which we live. Those who think exclusion and hate are the way to win an election of any kind have learned they need to adjust to changing times. They need to adjust their views to the direction this country is headed..
 5 years ago '07        #86
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you know if your gonna hate Obama or Stan Obama please know a thing or two about Politics, I'll tell you why i voted for Obama.

-Hes resigned the START treaty, more peace with Americas biggest ex adversary.

-He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act, fair pay for women, sanctions against those who dont comply

-He ended the war in Iraq, as promised.

-Under his Administration these terrorist have been getting a.ss r*ped, Osama, the dude in Yemen etc.

-He repealed dont ask dont tell

-The US no fly zone initiative was a HUGE part in getting rid of Gaffadi

-he supports gay marriage. i dont know how any dude whose comfortable with their s3xuality can not support it. who gives a fu*k if two homos want to get married? who am i, a straight man, to deny their happiness and rights? oh wait because a book written by a bunch of old jewish people says their evil? fu*k out of here Christians.

-Romeny is so, so, flawed....100x more so then Obama, Abortion actually may have been made illegal under Romney (he would have appointed two more conservative justices), put your religious views on the issues to the side, i cant not imagine the terrible effect a black market for abortion would have in poor communities

-he separates church and state. Obama ISNT AN ATHEIST (THE RIGHT WING MEDIA MIGHT TELL YOU TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE). Obama is a CHRISTIAN. but understands that its UNCONSTITUTIONAL to let his religious affiliation dictate his decisions that affect ALL OF SOCIETY.

-while Obamacare is not perfect there is more good then bad in it. These sick fu*king pigs in the health industry can no longer deny kids with pre existing conditions for monetary gain. and im on my parents insurance until i'm 26, cause i go to COLLEGE.

-his increase in the pell grants. While my parents are more then well off EVERYONE deserves the choice to go to college, Obama is making it easier for lower income families to obtain Pell Grants.

-he will not let the FEDS intervene with the State legalization of Marijuana. the domino affect is in play. once other states see how much money these states will make of taxes, more will follow suit. I HIGHLY DOUBT HIS ADMINISTRATION WILL INTERVENE. Weed might actually be Federally decriminalized under Obama.

-He has a better chance to deal with Congress then Romney would have, Harry Reid versus Romney would be 100x worse the Obama Vs Bohner.


Obama is 100 times better then Mitt Romney. Its just cool to hate on Obama now i guess.


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 5 years ago '04        #87
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 audiodiitons said:
I really wish the cynics would let things (including themselves) die already. You and many others like you always comment to complain rather than accept the situation and offer viable solutions. You want to talk about the 'war', but never want to go to war. There is no one on this planet that can reasonably convince me that this isn't the most VILIFIED President EVER! He is far from the worst, and that claim is baseless due to the disregard for the economy he inherited. As an empire we (THE U.S.) have been on top for far too long and there was no where to go fiscally...but down. We have peaked as a country in every way monetarily short of resource theft (i.e. Iraq & Afghanistan). He prevented what was at the time of his election financial ruin for our country! There was no viable option. He was damned if he did (our current market) and damned if he didn't (modern day depression). I do think certain individuals (I won't take the time to specify) should have been fired, prosecuted, fined, and jailed with no monetary lifeline upon release.

What if he didn't bail out the major banks? What then? What if he didn't allow more intercontinental drilling (most of which is EXPORTED anyway)? What if he didn't support green energy and allowed us to continually rely on oil? Yet and still the same critics complain about fuel prices! If you don't offer cheaper alternatives, prices rise in a non-competitive market and fail to stabilize. Because of our stubborn views on energy alternatives initiated by greedy oil barons, we think the failure of two DOE subsidized companies (Solyndra and A123) out of 30 is a reason to stop backing them all together. Solyndra is suing China for antitrust violations (which involved 3 Chinese companies making traditional solar panels real cheap all of a sudden) and will most likely get their money back. A Wilmington, DE. judge just approved bid procedures on A123's bankruptcy procedures 3 days ago and they will more than recoup at least the $130 million in DOE grants. Do you realize how much in subsidies and tax breaks the oil & gas industry gets?

Obama had our major forces pulled out of Iraq and only scaled back on Afghanistan, BUT because he used common sense upon advice from his military cabinet and didn't completely remove our forces he's a lying dictator...huh?

Israel/Palestine/Canaan was stolen from the Palestinians. I don't agree with some of the Palestinian tactics, BUT I also don't agree with Israel's. They were imported there, they were not born in the Middle East region of Asia and had no right to force those NATIVE people into the West Bank & Gaza Strip. Just because Obama and every historian with a brain empathizes with the Palestinians doesn't make them a Jew hating Muslim.

Obamacare/Romneycare is actually universal healthcare. It's a good thing and works rather well when properly & fully implemented. You have a right to not want to pay for it. I don't want to either, but does that make it a bad thing? Do you like paying for roads, bridges, firef!ghters, teachers, and policemmen? Probably not, judging from your as*hole-like comments and condescending exclamations of proposed wealth.I didn't like being seen as 3 fifths of a man in the constitution either. I'm sure you don't care because you think everything should stay the same because it benefits YOU...the poster child of selfish prick. I don't believe in supporting the shiftless and lazy either; however, it's an unfortunate side effect as there are in ALL governmental systems. The only thing un-American is your attitude. Un-American isn't even an actual word, it's a made up term since everyone's definition is different. See spell check uneducated one.


I'm also tired of individuals saying African Americans voted for Obama because he was black. Obama was a Democrat! Democratic policies since the Civil Rights movement have largely served the best interests of minorities, women, veterans, the elderly, the poor, the uneducated, the handicapped, and otherwise disenfranchised. The current Republican policy makers favor old, established white men...period. If Obama was a Republican and talked like Hermain Cain, Alan Keyes, and Allen West then best believe he would not have gotten the majority of the black vote. Hell, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson didn't, and they were Democrat! Do you see Hispanics loving Mark Rubio or Asians loving Michelle Maulkin? The answer is no.

Obama didn't k!ll our soldiers in Benghazi Libya and 4 deaths don't equate with the number of troops that died in fruitless wars started in Iraq, Afghanistan, or your local city! They were k!lled in the line of duty. MAYBE it could have been prevented if the incident was addressed IMMEDIATELY; however, what happened was, soldiers that heard the attack and reported it 3 times to their superiors were told 2 times to stand down and supposely disobeyed orders. When told to stand down the second time, 3 soldiers took it upon themselves to play Rambo and two of them (Doherty & Woods) were subsequently k!lled along with the two diplomats. Let's say my 'intel' is false and what I mentioned never happened. What if the diplomats were given added security as requested prior to the attack? More people would have died and more blame would have been placed.

I could write forever, but I know most people don't read especially if you don't write what they want to hear. As has been alluded to, every consummate hater of Obama and supporter of Romney is generally (not entirely, but generally) an angry, old, rich, white man or self-hating social outcast (i.e Coulter, Rice, Maulkin, Cain, West, etc.) aka Republican policy lover. Notice I said hate () not dislike. I don't hate Romney, and I didn't even hate Bush (Cheyney maybe lol). Ask yourself, WHY do you REALLY hate Obama enough to continually complain...especially when you know how he's been treated by Congress is UNPRECEDENTED.

P.S. - I'm also tired of idiots who failed social studies talking about a Democrat led House & Senate of two years without being familiar with the voting process in the House & Senate! Irregardless, the current situation is as follows so try & comprehend -


Well said! and Yes, I read the entire post! Its easy for those with short memories to attack whats new and different.. Its the thing that makes people uncomfortable that scares them the most. The far right was far to extreme in their views to garner enough votes to win. This is a multi-cultural, multi-racial society in which we live. Those who think exclusion and hate are the way to win an election of any kind have learned they need to adjust to changing times. They need to adjust their views to the direction this country is headed..
 5 years ago '10        #88
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 1LynguisticMind said:
you know if your gonna hate Obama or Stan Obama please know a thing or two about Politics, I'll tell you why i voted for Obama.

-Hes signed the START treaty, more peace with Americas biggest ex adversary.

-He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act, fair pay for women, sanctions against those who dont apply

-He ended the war in Iraq, as promised.

-Under his Administration these terrorist have been getting a.ss r*ped, Osama, the dude in Yemen etc.

-He repealed dont ask dont tell

-he supports gay marriage. i dont know how any dude whose comfortable with their s3xuality can not support it. who gives a fu*k if two homos want to get married? who am i, a straight man, to deny their happiness and rights? oh wait because a book written by a bunch of old jewish people says their evil? fu*k out of here Christians.

-Romeny is so, so, flawed....100x more so then Obama, Abortion actually may have been made illegal under Romney, i cant not imagine the terrible affect a black market for abortion would have in poor communities

-he separates church and state. Obama ISNT AN ATHEIST (THE RIGHT WING MEDIA MIGHT TELL YOU TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE). Obama is a CHRISTIAN. but understands that its UNCONSTITUTIONAL to let his religious affiliation dictate his decisions that affect ALL OF SOCIETY.

-while Obamacare is not perfect there is more good then bad in it. These sick fu*king pigs in the health industry can no longer deny kids with pre existing conditions for monetary gain. and im on my parents insurance until i'm 26, cause i go to COLLEGE.

-his increase in the pell grants. While my parents are more then well off EVERYONE deserves the choice to go to college, Obama is making it easier for lower income families to obtain Pell Grants.

-he will not let the FEDS intervene with the State legalization of Marijuana. the domino affect is in play. once other states see how much money these states will make of taxes, more will follow suit. I HIGHLY DOUBT HIS ADMINISTRATION WILL INTERVENE. Weed might actually be Federally decriminalized under Obama.

-He has a better chance to deal with Congress then Romney would have, Harry Reid versus Romney would be 100x worse the Obama Vs Bohner.


Obama is 100 times better then Mitt Romney. Its just cool to hate on Obama now i guess.
But n*ggas will still claim (with all of this staring in their faces) that he's done nothing for this country..

 5 years ago '09        #89
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 audiodiitons said:
I really wish the cynics would let things (including themselves) die already. You and many others like you always comment to complain rather than accept the situation and offer viable solutions. You want to talk about the 'war', but never want to go to war. There is no one on this planet that can reasonably convince me that this isn't the most VILIFIED President EVER! He is far from the worst, and that claim is baseless due to the disregard for the economy he inherited. As an empire we (THE U.S.) have been on top for far too long and there was no where to go fiscally...but down. We have peaked as a country in every way monetarily short of resource theft (i.e. Iraq & Afghanistan). He prevented what was at the time of his election financial ruin for our country! There was no viable option. He was damned if he did (our current market) and damned if he didn't (modern day depression). I do think certain individuals (I won't take the time to specify) should have been fired, prosecuted, fined, and jailed with no monetary lifeline upon release.

What if he didn't bail out the major banks? What then? What if he didn't allow more intercontinental drilling (most of which is EXPORTED anyway)? What if he didn't support green energy and allowed us to continually rely on oil? Yet and still the same critics complain about fuel prices! If you don't offer cheaper alternatives, prices rise in a non-competitive market and fail to stabilize. Because of our stubborn views on energy alternatives initiated by greedy oil barons, we think the failure of two DOE subsidized companies (Solyndra and A123) out of 30 is a reason to stop backing them all together. Solyndra is suing China for antitrust violations (which involved 3 Chinese companies making traditional solar panels real cheap all of a sudden) and will most likely get their money back. A Wilmington, DE. judge just approved bid procedures on A123's bankruptcy procedures 3 days ago and they will more than recoup at least the $130 million in DOE grants. Do you realize how much in subsidies and tax breaks the oil & gas industry gets?

Obama had our major forces pulled out of Iraq and only scaled back on Afghanistan, BUT because he used common sense upon advice from his military cabinet and didn't completely remove our forces he's a lying dictator...huh?

Israel/Palestine/Canaan was stolen from the Palestinians. I don't agree with some of the Palestinian tactics, BUT I also don't agree with Israel's. They were imported there, they were not born in the Middle East region of Asia and had no right to force those NATIVE people into the West Bank & Gaza Strip. Just because Obama and every historian with a brain empathizes with the Palestinians doesn't make them a Jew hating Muslim.

Obamacare/Romneycare is actually universal healthcare. It's a good thing and works rather well when properly & fully implemented. You have a right to not want to pay for it. I don't want to either, but does that make it a bad thing? Do you like paying for roads, bridges, firef!ghters, teachers, and policemmen? Probably not, judging from your as*hole-like comments and condescending exclamations of proposed wealth.I didn't like being seen as 3 fifths of a man in the constitution either. I'm sure you don't care because you think everything should stay the same because it benefits YOU...the poster child of selfish prick. I don't believe in supporting the shiftless and lazy either; however, it's an unfortunate side effect as there are in ALL governmental systems. The only thing un-American is your attitude. Un-American isn't even an actual word, it's a made up term since everyone's definition is different. See spell check uneducated one.


I'm also tired of individuals saying African Americans voted for Obama because he was black. Obama was a Democrat! Democratic policies since the Civil Rights movement have largely served the best interests of minorities, women, veterans, the elderly, the poor, the uneducated, the handicapped, and otherwise disenfranchised. The current Republican policy makers favor old, established white men...period. If Obama was a Republican and talked like Hermain Cain, Alan Keyes, and Allen West then best believe he would not have gotten the majority of the black vote. Hell, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson didn't, and they were Democrat! Do you see Hispanics loving Mark Rubio or Asians loving Michelle Maulkin? The answer is no.

Obama didn't k!ll our soldiers in Benghazi Libya and 4 deaths don't equate with the number of troops that died in fruitless wars started in Iraq, Afghanistan, or your local city! They were k!lled in the line of duty. MAYBE it could have been prevented if the incident was addressed IMMEDIATELY; however, what happened was, soldiers that heard the attack and reported it 3 times to their superiors were told 2 times to stand down and supposely disobeyed orders. When told to stand down the second time, 3 soldiers took it upon themselves to play Rambo and two of them (Doherty & Woods) were subsequently k!lled along with the two diplomats. Let's say my 'intel' is false and what I mentioned never happened. What if the diplomats were given added security as requested prior to the attack? More people would have died and more blame would have been placed.

I could write forever, but I know most people don't read especially if you don't write what they want to hear. As has been alluded to, every consummate hater of Obama and supporter of Romney is generally (not entirely, but generally) an angry, old, rich, white man or self-hating social outcast (i.e Coulter, Rice, Maulkin, Cain, West, etc.) aka Republican policy lover. Notice I said hate () not dislike. I don't hate Romney, and I didn't even hate Bush (Cheyney maybe lol). Ask yourself, WHY do you REALLY hate Obama enough to continually complain...especially when you know how he's been treated by Congress is UNPRECEDENTED.

P.S. - I'm also tired of idiots who failed social studies talking about a Democrat led House & Senate of two years without being familiar with the voting process in the House & Senate! Irregardless, the current situation is as follows so try & comprehend -

B-e-a utiful. Right on brother, right on. To me it is about the lesser of the two evils, nothing more or less. Propz.
 5 years ago '04        #90
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 NoTitleSince73 said:
so a 5-4 vote means what? Citizens United passed with a 5-4 vote. Doesn't make it any less legitimate. Supreme Court is the decider, and they said it was constitutional under the taxing powers.
Brother, you're appealing to authority. That's not an argument. You can sit here all day and tell me how it's legit because so and so said so, but it ain't. The government is not allowed to force you to pay for a product/service against your will.

Whatever though, I'm only playing devil's advocate. There's a lot of things I like about Obama.
 5 years ago '06        #91
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clearly a bias article...
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somebody pissed i jus hope for the right reasons
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The next 4 years look grim with this pro-islamic leader. Hopefully he gets impeached for the Benghazi cover up....
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If he was white, this thread wouldn't have made it past page 1. None of y'all would care. And still, nobody has successfullly pointed out what makes him a good president. Instead, one person countered with "name 30 things that make a good president". Not a single attempt to support Obama on his ACTIONS, because nobody on here knows why they voted for him other than for his race.
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 1LynguisticMind said:
you know if your gonna hate Obama or Stan Obama please know a thing or two about Politics, I'll tell you why i voted for Obama.

-Hes resigned the START treaty, more peace with Americas biggest ex adversary.

-He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Act, fair pay for women, sanctions against those who dont comply

-He ended the war in Iraq, as promised.

-Under his Administration these terrorist have been getting a.ss r*ped, Osama, the dude in Yemen etc.

-He repealed dont ask dont tell

-The US no fly zone initiative was a HUGE part in getting rid of Gaffadi

-he supports gay marriage. i dont know how any dude whose comfortable with their s3xuality can not support it. who gives a fu*k if two homos want to get married? who am i, a straight man, to deny their happiness and rights? oh wait because a book written by a bunch of old jewish people says their evil? fu*k out of here Christians.

-Romeny is so, so, flawed....100x more so then Obama, Abortion actually may have been made illegal under Romney (he would have appointed two more conservative justices), put your religious views on the issues to the side, i cant not imagine the terrible effect a black market for abortion would have in poor communities

-he separates church and state. Obama ISNT AN ATHEIST (THE RIGHT WING MEDIA MIGHT TELL YOU TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE). Obama is a CHRISTIAN. but understands that its UNCONSTITUTIONAL to let his religious affiliation dictate his decisions that affect ALL OF SOCIETY.

-while Obamacare is not perfect there is more good then bad in it. These sick fu*king pigs in the health industry can no longer deny kids with pre existing conditions for monetary gain. and im on my parents insurance until i'm 26, cause i go to COLLEGE.

-his increase in the pell grants. While my parents are more then well off EVERYONE deserves the choice to go to college, Obama is making it easier for lower income families to obtain Pell Grants.

-he will not let the FEDS intervene with the State legalization of Marijuana. the domino affect is in play. once other states see how much money these states will make of taxes, more will follow suit. I HIGHLY DOUBT HIS ADMINISTRATION WILL INTERVENE. Weed might actually be Federally decriminalized under Obama.

-He has a better chance to deal with Congress then Romney would have, Harry Reid versus Romney would be 100x worse the Obama Vs Bohner.


Obama is 100 times better then Mitt Romney. Its just cool to hate on Obama now i guess.
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 Drich1998 said:
If he was white, this thread wouldn't have made it past page 1. None of y'all would care. And still, nobody has successfullly pointed out what makes him a good president. Instead, one person countered with "name 30 things that make a good president". Not a single attempt to support Obama on his ACTIONS, because nobody on here knows why they voted for him other than for his race.
Just stop dude.........its evident that more people are in line with the ideas he represents more then his skin color, but I can tell you that alot of conservatives who did not vote for him overwhelmingly did so because of his skin color............can you dispute that?
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 Decan45 said:
You are not obligated to have car insurance coverage on any vehicle you own, unless you are operating it on a public road. Driving on public roads is not a right. I've transferred titles for vehicles into my name without buying car insurance, on numerous occasions. What he did there was unconstitutional, whether you like Obamacare or not.
the fu*k you live on, n*gga, a farm?
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 audiodiitons said:
I really wish the cynics would let things (including themselves) die already. You and many others like you always comment to complain rather than accept the situation and offer viable solutions. You want to talk about the 'war', but never want to go to war. There is no one on this planet that can reasonably convince me that this isn't the most VILIFIED President EVER! He is far from the worst, and that claim is baseless due to the disregard for the economy he inherited. As an empire we (THE U.S.) have been on top for far too long and there was no where to go fiscally...but down. We have peaked as a country in every way monetarily short of resource theft (i.e. Iraq & Afghanistan). He prevented what was at the time of his election financial ruin for our country! There was no viable option. He was damned if he did (our current market) and damned if he didn't (modern day depression). I do think certain individuals (I won't take the time to specify) should have been fired, prosecuted, fined, and jailed with no monetary lifeline upon release.

What if he didn't bail out the major banks? What then? What if he didn't allow more intercontinental drilling (most of which is EXPORTED anyway)? What if he didn't support green energy and allowed us to continually rely on oil? Yet and still the same critics complain about fuel prices! If you don't offer cheaper alternatives, prices rise in a non-competitive market and fail to stabilize. Because of our stubborn views on energy alternatives initiated by greedy oil barons, we think the failure of two DOE subsidized companies (Solyndra and A123) out of 30 is a reason to stop backing them all together. Solyndra is suing China for antitrust violations (which involved 3 Chinese companies making traditional solar panels real cheap all of a sudden) and will most likely get their money back. A Wilmington, DE. judge just approved bid procedures on A123's bankruptcy procedures 3 days ago and they will more than recoup at least the $130 million in DOE grants. Do you realize how much in subsidies and tax breaks the oil & gas industry gets?

Obama had our major forces pulled out of Iraq and only scaled back on Afghanistan, BUT because he used common sense upon advice from his military cabinet and didn't completely remove our forces he's a lying dictator...huh?

Israel/Palestine/Canaan was stolen from the Palestinians. I don't agree with some of the Palestinian tactics, BUT I also don't agree with Israel's. They were imported there, they were not born in the Middle East region of Asia and had no right to force those NATIVE people into the West Bank & Gaza Strip. Just because Obama and every historian with a brain empathizes with the Palestinians doesn't make them a Jew hating Muslim.

Obamacare/Romneycare is actually universal healthcare. It's a good thing and works rather well when properly & fully implemented. You have a right to not want to pay for it. I don't want to either, but does that make it a bad thing? Do you like paying for roads, bridges, firef!ghters, teachers, and policemmen? Probably not, judging from your as*hole-like comments and condescending exclamations of proposed wealth.I didn't like being seen as 3 fifths of a man in the constitution either. I'm sure you don't care because you think everything should stay the same because it benefits YOU...the poster child of selfish prick. I don't believe in supporting the shiftless and lazy either; however, it's an unfortunate side effect as there are in ALL governmental systems. The only thing un-American is your attitude. Un-American isn't even an actual word, it's a made up term since everyone's definition is different. See spell check uneducated one.


I'm also tired of individuals saying African Americans voted for Obama because he was black. Obama was a Democrat! Democratic policies since the Civil Rights movement have largely served the best interests of minorities, women, veterans, the elderly, the poor, the uneducated, the handicapped, and otherwise disenfranchised. The current Republican policy makers favor old, established white men...period. If Obama was a Republican and talked like Hermain Cain, Alan Keyes, and Allen West then best believe he would not have gotten the majority of the black vote. Hell, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson didn't, and they were Democrat! Do you see Hispanics loving Mark Rubio or Asians loving Michelle Maulkin? The answer is no.

Obama didn't k!ll our soldiers in Benghazi Libya and 4 deaths don't equate with the number of troops that died in fruitless wars started in Iraq, Afghanistan, or your local city! They were k!lled in the line of duty. MAYBE it could have been prevented if the incident was addressed IMMEDIATELY; however, what happened was, soldiers that heard the attack and reported it 3 times to their superiors were told 2 times to stand down and supposely disobeyed orders. When told to stand down the second time, 3 soldiers took it upon themselves to play Rambo and two of them (Doherty & Woods) were subsequently k!lled along with the two diplomats. Let's say my 'intel' is false and what I mentioned never happened. What if the diplomats were given added security as requested prior to the attack? More people would have died and more blame would have been placed.

I could write forever, but I know most people don't read especially if you don't write what they want to hear. As has been alluded to, every consummate hater of Obama and supporter of Romney is generally (not entirely, but generally) an angry, old, rich, white man or self-hating social outcast (i.e Coulter, Rice, Maulkin, Cain, West, etc.) aka Republican policy lover. Notice I said hate () not dislike. I don't hate Romney, and I didn't even hate Bush (Cheyney maybe lol). Ask yourself, WHY do you REALLY hate Obama enough to continually complain...especially when you know how he's been treated by Congress is UNPRECEDENTED.

P.S. - I'm also tired of idiots who failed social studies talking about a Democrat led House & Senate of two years without being familiar with the voting process in the House & Senate! Irregardless, the current situation is as follows so try & comprehend -
this n*gga went ball deep


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 tupacnasfan said:
The Same andrew jackson who battled the banksters and won and got us out of debt

Yes that's the one.

nobama is just the same as mittens, both will continue with more debt, more wars and nothing else, you better be prepared for a FEMA Camp.
lol im glad im not the only one who calls him "mittens"
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