Nov 3 - Illiterate Ethiopian kids given Motorola Zoom tablet PCs, hacked 5 months later

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 11-04-2012, 12:21 AM         #21
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 Sabotage said:
sure are typing like you grew up there
 6 years ago '12        #22
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 Windy said:
should of air dropped their ashy a.sses some johnson and johnsons
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 11-04-2012, 01:59 AM         #23
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This is amazing. I study language development in children, and what they're capable at a very young age is insane. From the time they're born to about age 12, their brain is a supercomputer which absorbs and disects different languages. All you need to do to teach a kid a language is expose them to it and they will figure out the rest. This doesn't surprise me at all. This should be done way more often
 6 years ago '06        #24
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some tablets really? I hope they were conducting a survey. Cause these kids could use alot more then some Motorola tablets.
 6 years ago '06        #25
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 Nyuzi said:
There are actually native forms of writing throughout Africa but barely anyone takes the time to research them. It's likely that these kids have heard and may know some english or that someone in their village does. Many people in Africa know numerous languages.
 11-04-2012, 06:33 AM         #26
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Amazing that an article highlighting the astounding human capacity for learning could be met with such negativity.

The whole point is that they gave these tablets to people way out where, as untouched by the modern corporate world as is possible. If they dropped them off in fu*king Lagos where people are literate and living a 'modern' life it would tell us nothing, because people in Lagos are familiar with the technology.

How you can even get from this article that they're trying to make Africans look helpless is beyond me. It seems that while out-of-the-way villagers in Ethiopia can hack a Motorola Zoom in 5 months, Americans on the other hand are unable to accumulate knowledge of the outside world, despite many decades of opportunity.
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 ROFLSTOMP said:
Amazing that an article highlighting the astounding human capacity for learning could be met with such negativity.

The whole point is that they gave these tablets to people way out where, as untouched by the modern corporate world as is possible. If they dropped them off in fu*king Lagos where people are literate and living a 'modern' life it would tell us nothing, because people in Lagos are familiar with the technology.

How you can even get from this article that they're trying to make Africans look helpless is beyond me. It seems that while out-of-the-way villagers in Ethiopia can hack a Motorola Zoom in 5 months, Americans on the other hand are unable to accumulate knowledge of the outside world, despite many decades of opportunity.
exactly. people just like to bi*ch for the sake of it, but this is incredible.
 6 years ago '09        #29
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seriously this was one of the best article i read on boxen and I'am amazed to still se ignorant comments
 11-04-2012, 10:21 AM         #30
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 ROFLSTOMP said:
Amazing that an article highlighting the astounding human capacity for learning could be met with such negativity.

The whole point is that they gave these tablets to people way out where, as untouched by the modern corporate world as is possible. If they dropped them off in fu*king Lagos where people are literate and living a 'modern' life it would tell us nothing, because people in Lagos are familiar with the technology.

How you can even get from this article that they're trying to make Africans look helpless is ldrbeyond me. It seems that while out-of-the-way villagers in Ethiopia can hack a Motorola Zoom in 5 months, Americans on the other hand are unable to accumulate knowledge of the outside world, despite many decades of opportunity.
Props to the children.....but it does sound like lab rat,trading places type bullsh*t.........and while good came from it...the whole operation of how they provided the tablets was condescending and arrogant....Just because the children did not pass the western societies idea of litteracy......does not mean they were dumb.....the proper observation would have been to simply test the children's compentcy skills.......in a manor that was not derrived from as*hole logic
 11-04-2012, 10:37 AM         #31
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 Lan Imbu said:
They got free fu*kin androids b
Just giving my opinion b.......
 11-04-2012, 11:39 AM         #32
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 Dos-effect said:
Props to the children.....but it does sound like lab rat,trading places type bullsh*t.........and while good came from it...the whole operation of how they provided the tablets was condescending and arrogant....Just because the children did not pass the western societies idea of litteracy......does not mean they were dumb.....the proper observation would have been to simply test the children's compentcy skills.......in a manor that was not derrived from as*hole logic
For sure you can argue whether it's ethical to use unsuspecting people as lab rats for a social experiment, I can see that - whether you should be interfering with practically isolated peoples is a hot topic - but I don't think it's any part(in this case) of some larger effort to misrepresent the African continent, as some others have suggested. It's not as if this is something that doesn't happen in Western countries, not the same experiment, but similar. The line between what's morally acceptable and what isn't is pretty vague. Giving tablets out in an Ethiopian village isn't acceptable, but some similar learning experiment involving kids in Norway isn't objected to. It seems a couple of responses(not yours) in my opinion is a case of the boy who cried wolf, sometimes a spade is just a spade and there's no ulterior agenda.

The media do tend to focus on the 'worst' of Africa. Even with good intentions, people paint Africans as helpless imbeciles who need western intervention to save them, but this story/experiment I don't think is a case of that. If anything the narrative of this study is look, humans are innovative knowledge-seeking heavyweights, with or without formal education, western or otherwise - We have the capacity to achieve great things and learn without help and we can do it at a remarkable rate.

It could be I'm just positively biased. I've learnt so much myself with the internet and really believe in organisations like One Laptop Per Child, and the power of computing, so I find it hard to look at harmless experiments like this with pessimism. The sooner every poor child on this earth has the #1 learning tool on planet earth, the internet, the better, imo. Computers will go down in history as the greatest contributor to upwards mobility and education that there has ever been, I believe.
 6 years ago '06        #33
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"Miles from the nearest school, a young Ethiopian girl named Rahel turns on her new tablet computer. The solar powered machine speaks to her: "Hello! Would you like to hear a story?"
She nods and listens to a story about a princess.
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How you nod to respond to a tablet? Camera feature? or the app just waits a few seconds to make the kids think they are interacting with the tablet? lol
 6 years ago '10        #34
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 hurricanegamePZ said:
aAFRICA iS WaY BEtTER THAn THeY SHOw oN TVVv I USED TO LIVE THERE AFRICA IS THE BEST OUT OF ALL THE UNITED NATIONS
And you are telling me kids like this were able to hack a tablet? FOH
 11-04-2012, 12:21 PM         #35
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 Staszy said:
And you are telling me kids like this were able to hack a tablet? FOH
So how is that reading thing working out for you?
 11-04-2012, 12:30 PM         #36
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 ROFLSTOMP said:
For sure you can argue whether it's ethical to use unsuspecting people as lab rats for a social experiment, I can see that - whether you should be interfering with practically isolated peoples is a hot topic - but I don't think it's any part(in this case) of some larger effort to misrepresent the African continent, as some others have suggested. It's not as if this is something that doesn't happen in Western countries, not the same experiment, but similar. The line between what's morally acceptable and what isn't is pretty vague. Giving tablets out in an Ethiopian village isn't acceptable, but some similar learning experiment involving kids in Norway isn't objected to. It seems a couple of responses(not yours) in my opinion is a case of the boy who cried wolf, sometimes a spade is just a spade and there's no ulterior agenda.

The media do tend to focus on the 'worst' of Africa. Even with good intentions, people paint Africans as helpless imbeciles who need western intervention to save them, but this story/experiment I don't think is a case of that. If anything the narrative of this study is look, humans are innovative knowledge-seeking heavyweights, with or without formal education, western or otherwise - We have the capacity to achieve great things and learn without help and we can do it at a remarkable rate.

It could be I'm just positively biased. I've learnt so much myself with the internet and really believe in organisations like One Laptop Per Child, and the power of computing, so I find it hard to look at harmless experiments like this with pessimism. The sooner every poor child on this earth has the #1 learning tool on planet earth, the internet, the better, imo. Computers will go down in history as the greatest contributor to upwards mobility and education that there has ever been, I believe.
I agree with you......to an extent...but the only language being English.....and no instructions......just seems kinda a.ssholish....and you know the tablets are secretely monitored......watching the children's every step.......sh*t is kinda creepy if you ask me.......there are better ways to go about it.....
 6 years ago '07        #37
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WOW, if its true this is pretty amazing.....
 11-04-2012, 01:26 PM         #38
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 Dos-effect said:
I agree with you......to an extent...but the only language being English.....and no instructions......just seems kinda a.ssholish....and you know the tablets are secretely monitored......watching the children's every step.......sh*t is kinda creepy if you ask me.......there are better ways to go about it.....
I'm surprised they used English, not because it's a.ssholish(don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's not lol), but because if I wanted to be extra certain that the technology and language was foreign to the community, I'd give them a Motorola in Indonesian or something

You're right though morally it is a grey area. The circumstances of how the tablets were dropped off is what makes that contentious, for me. If they spoke to an elder with a translator, outlined what they were doing and why, had permission and had the community agree to try it, then I can say I'd have zero qualms with it.

If they sort of dropped a box off without informing as the article reports then I don't know about that. The language bit I don't mind because the non familiarity with the language is important, if they could read everything on the tablet it wouldn't be that impressive where i'm sat
 11-04-2012, 03:12 PM         #39
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we have known this forever! you give african children anything; they will figure it out! if you come from nothing you only have something to work towards...

but on a serious note...do you all not see what they are doing here???

this is just another conversion/brainwashing technique that these elites are using to colonize to their liking!!
you may say otherwise...but at the foundation of this bullsh*t, theres a "white savior" concept being programmed in them for the future! hope they stick to their roots/culture man!!!
 6 years ago '04        #40
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 Toss said:
seriously this was one of the best article i read on boxen and I'am amazed to still se ignorant comments
same here bra, i just posted it on facebook, first time ive shared some boxden "news" with my regular fam and friends, people on there love this article ;) Everyone here is finding things to nit-pick and bi*ch about, stop the hate god damn...
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