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Oct 26 - Diplomats Were Denied Help 3x's From CIA And Pentagon During Benghazi Attack
 

 
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Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.
Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."
Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been k!lled in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.
At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firef!ghts. The f!ghting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

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125 comments for "Oct 26 - Diplomats Were Denied Help 3x's From CIA And Pentagon During Benghazi Attack"

 5 years ago '06        #2
KFrizzle 296 heat pts296 OP
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This is the biggest mistake the president's admin has ever made.
I thought the president was suppose to protect and serve Americans...
What about the family's of the ppl who could have been saved...
And what is weird to me is the fact that the president had to have know Amb. Stevens, like personally and wouldn't even help him!?! He's not an elected official? He is appointed by Obama...

How a President can't have the balls to call in the Navy Seals, Delta Team; just makes me question what Obama could have even been thinking? These troops train for situations exactly like this!?! The State Dept. would even let one of the drone's laser point at the mortar teams attack the building..
So they wouldn't even call in an attack w/o bringing in ANY troops!! WTF how can you not even do that!!! We had 2 drones watching everything! And all the security cam's around the CIA headquarters!

 5 years ago '07        #3
Ham Rove 3510 heat pts3510
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Romney camp must be paying nicely.
 5 years ago '06        #4
KFrizzle 296 heat pts296 OP
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 NoTitleSince73 said:
Romney camp must be paying nicely.
I wish...

U see this tho?

Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 50 percent, Obama 47
(^^+4 Dem voters)

When it comes to handling the nation’s struggling economy, 52 percent of likely voters say they trust Romney more, while 43 percent say they have more faith in the president.

In the new poll, 48 percent say Obama is more in tune with the economic problems people are having, and nearly as many, 46 percent, say Romney is the one who is more in touch. Just two weeks ago, Obama had a nine-point lead on the question.

Independents now side with Romney by campaign highs on both the economy (61 to 34 percent) and on understanding people’s problems (52 to 42 percent).
 5 years ago '11        #5
Kadillac87 225 heat pts225
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Just give it up man. Turn your Fox News off and just give it up





Nobody wants to see Americans die but it's obvious why the decision to not send help was made. You're not going to put more troops at risk by putting them in a chaotic situation.


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 5 years ago '07        #6
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 KFrizzle said:
I wish...

U see this tho?

Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 50 percent, Obama 47
(^^+4 Dem voters)

When it comes to handling the nation’s struggling economy, 52 percent of likely voters say they trust Romney more, while 43 percent say they have more faith in the president.

In the new poll, 48 percent say Obama is more in tune with the economic problems people are having, and nearly as many, 46 percent, say Romney is the one who is more in touch. Just two weeks ago, Obama had a nine-point lead on the question.

Independents now side with Romney by campaign highs on both the economy (61 to 34 percent) and on understanding people’s problems (52 to 42 percent).
Saw it, and the polls say lots of different things, and national polls don't really mean much. Its all about the electoral college, Obama could lose the popular vote and still be president.
 5 years ago '11        #7
Kadillac87 225 heat pts225
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Here you go Kfizzle, read the guards account of the attack and how reinforcement were sent but delayed b/c the Libyan govt didn't want the US military running through their country.

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 Kadillac87 said:
Here you go Kfizzle, read the guards account of the attack and how reinforcement were sent but delayed b/c the Libyan govt didn't want the US military running through their country.

Thank you for using a REAL damn site....Fox News......total joke!
 5 years ago '06        #9
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 Kadillac87 said:
Here you go Kfizzle, read the guards account of the attack and how reinforcement were sent but delayed b/c the Libyan govt didn't want the US military running through their country.

Dude there is no arguement... We could and should have called in our own support w/ f!ghter jets, Specter AC-130 gunships, and navy fu*kin seals... Not some militia that is clearly out numbered and gunned. or helped the militia w/ the drone flying overhead???
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 KFrizzle said:
Dude there is no arguement... We could and should have called in our own support w/ f!ghter jets, Specter AC-130 gunships, and navy fu*kin seals... Not some militia that is clearly out numbered and gunned. or helped the militia w/ the drone flying overhead???
Yes, send in f!ghter jets and watch them get shot down. It's not like it hasn't happened before.





The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said Thursday.

At a Pentagon news briefing, Panetta said there was no "real-time information" to be able to act on, even though the U.S. military was prepared to do so.

"You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on," Panetta said. "(We) felt we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

A defense official provided more context on Panetta's comments about the decision-making involved in not sending U.S. troops to the consulate being attacked in Benghazi.

He said there was a drone aloft but not directly over the area at the time the attack began.

He said the drone was redirected and arrived in time to record some of the attack. But he described what the drone saw as "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground."

He said it was not enough to discern exactly what was happening.

"We didn't have good eyes on the situation. There were security forces there on the ground, but they're in the middle of a firef!ght - not sending a Sitrep (Situational Report).

The official could not reveal the specific reaction times for the military's Fleet Anti Terrorism Security Teams, which are classified, but said "it would be physically impossible for them to get there in time to intervene in that attack from say, Rota, Spain."

He cited the time it takes just to get their transportation in the air. The official said "these situations normally deteriorate over time ... but usually in a few days, not two hours." He explained that even quick-reaction teams are often positioned for places where intelligence shows a "deteriorating situation" near an embassy.

The official also provided context for Panetta's and Gen. Martin Dempsey's remarks about criticism on the response.

"It's not helpful to provide partial answers," Dempsey said. And Panetta criticized what he called "Monday morning quarterbacking."

The defense official said it was directed at criticism coming from pundits and Capitol Hill.

"In perfect hindsight, yes - we'd do it differently. But how it looks weeks later is not how it looked at the time.

"You had the movie, the 9/11 anniversary and unrest in various countries in that region. All that factored into the decision to put troops on a heightened state of alert. But that doesn't mean forces are positioned everywhere in the world, ready to run to the rescue. We're not the fire department. And there was no actionable intelligence that Benghazi was going to be attacked on 9/11."

Next month, the Democratic-led Senate Intelligence Committee will hold a closed hearing in Washington to review the security situation and intelligence surrounding the Benghazi attack, according to a committee announcement released Thursday.

The hearing, not open to the public, will review intelligence collection and threat reporting in Libya and other Middle East countries before the September 11 attack on the U.S. mission as well as what was known and who is responsible for the attack, among other issues.

A number of government investigations continue into what happened on the attack.

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 5 years ago '06        #11
KFrizzle 296 heat pts296 OP
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Dude, idk if you play video game but also in real life its possible... We had drones to laser point aka "Tag the target" and we could have done it all w/o even callin in the Seals...

Probably should do that first, get rid of the terror crowd. then get the troops in there after drones do some business get rid of the mortar teams shooting our building... we can watch it all on the drones to see where and when is the safest way we should bring in the air crafts/troops...

Right?
 5 years ago '07        #12
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I think nameless dudes on boxden with at most a ged would know what to do in that situation, more so than someone who's job is to know about this stuff. Fire the cia and everyone else, hire kfrizzle, problem solved.
 5 years ago '06        #13
KFrizzle 296 heat pts296 OP
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Bullsh*t not enough info bro... your not that dumb... you know he's lying when they had info:

-they knew the days before that Stevens wanted more protection (on 9/11 at most dangerous place in the world)
-2 drones watching attacks live
-security cams all over the annex

i highly doubt RPG's are goin to take down:
AC-130 gunships:

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f!ghter Jets:

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 KFrizzle said:
Dude, idk if you play video game but also in real life its possible... We had drones to laser point aka "Tag the target" and we could have done it all w/o even callin in the Seals...

Probably should do that first, get rid of the terror crowd. then get the troops in there after drones do some business get rid of the mortar teams shooting our building... we can watch it all on the drones to see where and when is the safest way we should bring in the air crafts/troops...

Right?

He said there was a drone aloft but not directly over the area at the time the attack began.

He said the drone was redirected and arrived in time to record some of the attack. But he described what the drone saw as "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground."

He said it was not enough to discern exactly what was happening.

"We didn't have good eyes on the situation. There were security forces there on the ground, but they're in the middle of a firef!ght - not sending a Sitrep (Situational Report).

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So you're reasonably expecting a full scale military operation in the matter of hours with bad visuals and information?



Stop watching Fox News bruh. They've been purposefully misleading you to try and win the election. I bet you still think the US denied security requests to Benghazi.
 5 years ago '06        #15
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 NoTitleSince73 said:
I think nameless dudes on boxden with at most a ged would know what to do in that situation, more so than someone who's job is to know about this stuff. Fire the cia and everyone else, hire kfrizzle, problem solved.
if you must know.. a.ssociate degree..

But thanks for the job offer, but i doubt my lil college edu. makes me qualified



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 Kadillac87 said:
He said there was a drone aloft but not directly over the area at the time the attack began.
He said the drone was redirected and arrived in time to record some of the attack. But he described what the drone saw as "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground."
He said it was not enough to discern exactly what was happening.
"We didn't have good eyes on the situation. There were security forces there on the ground, but they're in the middle of a firef!ght - not sending a Sitrep (Situational Report).
So you're reasonably expecting a full scale military operation in the matter of hours with bad visuals and information?

Stop watching Fox News bruh. They've been purposefully misleading you to try and win the election. I bet you still think the US denied security requests to Benghazi.
Your dumb... It's well known security requests were denied days before attack..

^Watch fool^ CBS...

Not a fu*kin full scale op.. we are dealing with saving a hand full of ppl..
Stop trying to blow what i am saying out of proportion... Remember this ain't no Surge fool..

Drones were fu*king right above...
if not right away, at least at hour 2 of the 7 hr attack!! and we had ppl alive then still! Plus stevens wasn't fu*king r*ped and k!lled yet by the terrorist pigs
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Its like dudes expect Obama to personally be @ the embassy locking up windows and searching the perimeter, there is a reason our military is so massive. There is tons of people making these decisions, but if anything EVER goes wrong, its Obamas fault. No matter what. \


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 NoTitleSince73 said:
Its like dudes expect Obama to personally be @ the embassy locking up windows and searching the perimeter, there is a reason our military is so massive. There is tons of people making these decisions, but if anything EVER goes wrong, its Obamas fault. No matter what. \
It's like I expect a president to:

Take a security threat on and around 9/11 serious...
Take a security threat on a personal chosen Ambassador serious...
Take a Security threat in the most dangerous part of the world serious...
Take saving American lives under attack serious...
Do as much possible to save All american lives...
Not stand by and watch for 7 hrs as Americans are k!lled and r*ped...


Um, he is the Commander in chief right?

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@ at Barry dressed up in Army gear goin in to combat...
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 KFrizzle said:
It's like I expect a president to:

Take a security threat on and around 9/11 serious...
Take a security threat on a personal chosen Ambassador serious...
Take a Security threat in the most dangerous part of the world serious...
Take saving American lives under attack serious...
Do as much possible to save All american lives...
Not stand by and watch for 7 hrs as Americans are k!lled and r*ped...


Um, he is the Commander in chief right?

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@ at Barry dressed up in Army gear goin in to combat...
the only people blaming Obama for this, are FOX News and other right wingers. But keep believing your fantasy Obama I alluded to earlier. Whats he gonna do, drone our own embassy? I guess Republicans share no blame in this either, right? Even though they cut the funding by more than was recommended. fu*king Obama.
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Illuminati... real talk... the date and everything is symbolic... Look up meaning behind 9 and 11
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