Chief Dee said:
You dont really have an argument though about people from Chicago not being hard outside Chicago. If that's the case, how did Chicago n*ggas set up shop in all these states/cities down south and start all these GDs and Vice Lords hoods? Truth is, Chicago n*ggas go wherever we want Down South. And dudes from Houston/Dallas were never known to expand aggressively across statelines like Chicago n*ggas do. You cant compare Chicago to Houston/Dallas, they dont spread hoods all over.
Let's put it like this the first migration of black ppl came from the south. Where did most of the blacks in Chicago come from in the first place? Of course it wasn't in the name of spreading gangs it was simply to make a better living. But over time these southern cats moved to the midwest/west/and east and became these criminals. In Chicago the extreme culture of gangs was a result of the prohibition era and the extreme segregation mixed in with politics. Chicago gangs existed around the times of segregation. Chicago,NYC,LA has some of the earliest black gangs. NYC is a result of influx of southern ppl and west indies population. L.A. is a result of different southern state blacks coming together against white gangs(majority of those blacks in L.A. came from Texas and Louisiana)
Now being that these 3 major cities had a head start on black gang culture in the states. And they happened to be the most populated amongst blacks. The gang culture stuck more in those cities because you already had that "southerner far away from home so we gotta stick together" mentality mixed in with the white mobsters that were already there which influenced the black gangs in some shape of form. Not to mention those cities were hit the hardest when it came to the import of drugs.
Now there was no major gangs anywhere in the south in the 70's and early 80's. But you still had southern cats from Texas,Louisiana,Mississippi,Alabama,Georgia,Arkans as going up to these midwest and westcoast and eastcoast cities getting caught up in the drug game and making a name for themselves. Look at the Chamber Brothers from Arkansas went into Detroit and was apart of tha drug scene in Detroit. Frank Lucas was from North Carolina and moved all his family from the Carolinas to take part in the drug game in NYC.
So yeah southern cats didn't spread gangs in other cities cuz it was no major gangs they just adapted with their surroundings. But some southern cats was getting it in when they moved out the south. In the mid 80's to early 90's during the Crack era. You start seeing Crips and Bloods and GD's and Vice Lords in southern cities. But it wasn't because a gang of Chicago or Los Angeles cats came down and start taking over blocks. Nope cats moved in started slanging drugs and later clicked up w/ other cats in the city they were slanging in. Over time the young g's started looking up to these dudes who were claiming GD's/Vice Lords/Bloods/Crips. You gotta realize Chicago and L.A. were pretty popular and known and to a bunch of country bumpkin minded cats if you were from Chicago or L.A. you were legit. You automatically got a pass from some just because u were from the city. But that don't mean you muscled your way on somebody turf.
But that was the 80's and the 90's. Over time these younger cats w/ no direction started forgetting the history of the gangs and just started banging or reppin cuz it was cool to them or cuz the OG's who are now locked up or fu*ked off on drugs was doing it. And they idolized that. And now that popularity has shifted towards southern cities like Houston,Atlanta,Dallas you have another migration taken place . BMF started out in Detroit. Those were a gang of n*ggas from everywhere gettin together in Atlanta. But you think they were simply like fu*k all ATL n*ggas? Or get money w/ ATL dudes? I mean it's only smart for business to join together or work alongside instead of alienating yourself in a city you aint from.