Sorry Packers fans but thats the right call by rule thats a TD, NFL got it right.

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 5 years ago '04        #321
torious 67 heat pts67
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tate's hand is wrapped around the ball from the moment the ball hit anyone's hands tiill the last moment where he got both his hands securely around it. possession is only lost if his hand comes off it..... it didn't


slowed down even further, where does his left hand come off? is there any place where it's even remotely clear?
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 5 years ago '04        #322
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 torious said:
tate's hand is wrapped around the ball from the moment the ball hit anyone's hands tiill the last moment where he got both his hands securely around it. possession is only lost if his hand comes off it..... it didn't


slowed down even further, where does his left hand come off? is there any place where it's even remotely clear?
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His right hand comes on the ball after Jennings has possession.

Trolling is out of control.

The next time Calvin Johnson catches a TD pass, and the defender has one hand on it right away, you better be calling it an INT, or you're a troll or a hypocrite.
 5 years ago '04        #323
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^his hand is still under the ball you don't have to have to hands on it in the air you just have to gain possession once you hit the ground.

 Bullseye said:
According to NFL Rules, you need 2 feet on the ground + possession. Doesn't matter who grabbed it in the air first, it matters who has both hands on it and both feet on the ground first. Tate grabbed it simultaneously as Jennings grabbed it. Then both players had both hands on the ball when both their feet landed. Hard to say Jennings had true possession if Tate had his hands on it and was f!ghting for it the whole time too. At the least, maybe an equal possession, which goes to the WR. According to me, Jennings got the INT. But according to NFL rules, the refs may have been right....

Watch the slow mo

Bigo, I watched a few programs today where others were saying it was the right call. Tate has his hand under the ball in the air and when they come down it never exits from being under the ball and his other hand wraps around it.

The guy closest to the play rules it a TD and the back judge who is about 40 feet away from the play when its happening calls a touch back but he probably told the guy who called it a TD he didn't see who had the ball and they had to go with the guy who called it a TD since he saw it clearer than anyone else.
 5 years ago '12        #324
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 regularjoe said:
You've gotta be fu*king joking. I can't believe you actually said that.
Im not, dude came over the top and snatched it away, you cant do that. The ball is already in Tates possession, u cant just take it away.

The right thing would of been to swat that sh*t down, but he didnt and yall lost because of that.
 5 years ago '04        #325
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 torious said:
tate's hand is wrapped around the ball from the moment the ball hit anyone's hands tiill the last moment where he got both his hands securely around it. possession is only lost if his hand comes off it..... it didn't


slowed down even further, where does his left hand come off? is there any place where it's even remotely clear?
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It doesn't come off he grabs it initially with 1 hand under the ball between the ball and Jennings hand and body and then he puts the other hand on the ball as they go down to the ground.

If you watch closely Tate's left hand goes around the ball then shortly after Jenning's hand is on top of Tate's left hand meaning he caught the ball but also caught Tate's glove.

Its a tough call and the NFL made the right call to rule it what it was ruled tie goes to the WR.


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 5 years ago '08        #326
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 eCity 420 said:
Im not, dude came over the top and snatched it away, you cant do that. The ball is already in Tates possession, u cant just take it away.

The right thing would of been to swat that sh*t down, but he didnt and yall lost because of that.
 5 years ago '12        #327
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 5 years ago '04        #328
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 K1Entertainment said:
It doesn't come off he grabs it initially with 1 hand under the ball between the ball and Jennings body and then he puts the other hand on the ball as they go down to the ground.
exactly, i'll admit i was wrong to say that jennings hand came off it earlier in the thread, because it didn't, but tate's one hand controlled it as much as jennings 2 did the from the point of impact with both receivers hands until the end of the catch, tate's 2nd hand was just extra
 5 years ago '04        #329
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 torious said:
exactly, i'll admit i was wrong to say that jennings hand came off it earlier in the thread, because it didn't, but tate's one hand controlled it as much as jennings 2 did the from the point of impact with both receivers hands until the end of the catch, tate's 2nd hand was just extra


I don't even know what to say anymore. Some people just love to be the ones who go against people. It's just how life is. Even when they can't prove it, they'll argue till the death.
 5 years ago '04        #330
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 regularjoe said:
His right hand comes on the ball after Jennings has possession.

Trolling is out of control.

The next time Calvin Johnson catches a TD pass, and the defender has one hand on it right away, you better be calling it an INT, or you're a troll or a hypocrite.
talking about the left hand buddy
 5 years ago '04        #331
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 regularjoe said:


I don't even know what to say anymore. Some people just love to be the ones who go against people. It's just how life is. Even when they can't prove it, they'll argue till the death.
unless you can find an angle that shows tate's hand off the ball
 5 years ago '04        #332
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 torious said:
unless you can find an angle that shows tate's hand off the ball
Ok, well like I said, next time some defender ties up ONE hand in Calvin Johnson's TWO hands... you better be the first person calling it an INT.
 5 years ago '04        #333
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 regularjoe said:
Ok, well like I said, next time some defender ties up ONE hand in Calvin Johnson's TWO hands... you better be the first person calling it an INT.
if the defender has sole possession of the ball at the end of the catch absolutely, but simultaneous possession still goes to the offensive player


now if calvin is playing defense on a hail mary play, and he gets two hands on it, and an offensive player gets 1 hand the from the moment of impact until the time the catch is completed with a second hand and arm added for a.ssurance, that's a TD// but calvin is too sure handed to ever let that happen


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 5 years ago '04        #334
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 torious said:
if the defender has sole possession of the ball at the end of the catch absolutely, but simultaneous possession still goes to the offensive player
No no no... don't try to find ways out now. You stated your words, so you better back them up
 5 years ago '04        #335
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 regularjoe said:
No no no... don't try to find ways out now. You stated your words, so you better back them up
what did i change? i'm stating the rules. it never goes to the defense in the event of simultaneous possession, which is what happened here, as was reviewed by an NFL official despite numerous claims that simultaneous poseession isnt reviewable

also check the edit
 5 years ago '04        #336
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 5 years ago '12        #337
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 regularjoe said:


I don't even know what to say anymore. Some people just love to be the ones who go against people. It's just how life is. Even when they can't prove it, they'll argue till the death.
Same can be said for you, you are going against nfl officiating and official reviews.. What is your problem?? get it together buddy


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now unless Jennings had some hands that came out his mouth to catch the ball, id say Tate clearly had that sh*t
 5 years ago '04        #338
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NFL issued a statement on it, saying yeah they should of called that PI on Tate (but we all know that sh*ts never called in that situation)

also they clarified the rule that everyone seems to be ignoring......which I think this proves I am right that the refs made the right call.

Official NFL Statement

Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department (not the replacements) reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review.

The result of the game is final.

Applicable rules to the play are as follows:

A player (or players) jumping in the air has not legally gained possession of the ball until he satisfies the elements of a catch listed here.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3 of the NFL Rule Book defines a catch:

A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:

(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and

(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and

(c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining control long enough to pitch it, pass it, advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.).

When a player (or players) is going to the ground in the attempt to catch a pass, Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1 states:

Player Going to the Ground.
If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5 states:

Simultaneous Catch.
If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.


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 09-25-2012, 01:23 PM         #339
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Obviously some of you f*ggots are slow, maybe even full on retard... Look up the word simultaneous you fu*king degenerates.

Jennings had full clear possession first... Tate put a hand somewhere between the ball and Jennings chest, his right hand clearly goes from holding Jennings' arm, to letting go, and then trying to f!ght for the ball. The rule is that simultaneous possession cannot occur when one player already has clear possession.

Torious, you are a f*ggot and a retard, shut the fu*k up troll.
 5 years ago '04        #340
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 K1Entertainment said:
NFL issued a statement on it, saying yeah they should of called that PI on Tate (but we all know that sh*ts never called in that situation)

also they clarified the rule that everyone seems to be ignoring......
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