Sorry Packers fans but thats the right call by rule thats a TD, NFL got it right.

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 5 years ago '07        #261
KeepinItTrill 30 heat pts30
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 NO RELIGION said:


Seattle did win the game
 5 years ago '08        #263
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I hate you Pete
 5 years ago '04        #264
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 Cowboys All Day said:
"It is not a simultaneous catch if a player (Jennings) gains control first and an opponent (Tate) subsequently gains joint control"


this is the first piece of a legitimate argument i've seen all day contrary to what i've said only took10 pages of discussion and a full night
but if that is the case the simultaneous possession rules and the "completion of a catch" rules are working against one another.. doesn't make any sense.... i quit we'll see what the NFL says


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 5 years ago '04        #265
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this is very compelling.....should of just redone the play
 5 years ago '07        #267
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 5 years ago '11        #268
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So the OP is the only person that knows football rules, because apparently he's the only person that thinks the call was right. EVERYBODY else is wrong.
 09-25-2012, 11:16 AM         #269
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It was a pick, we should have won but we still played sh*tty. No excuse for our offense only putting up 12 points on the seahawks
 5 years ago '12        #270
LicensedLegend 11 heat pts11
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Look here, the rule is there to keep defensive players from grabbing the ball while it's in the recievers hand and saying they have intercepted it. That is why simualtaneous position goes to the reciever. That rule is there to protect the reciever. What a lot of you people are not seeing is Jennings is the reciever on this play because he has possession of the ball first. He has complete control of it. At this point Tate has become the defensive player. So him gaining what ever control he had has they were hitting the ground is mute because Jennings had already established possession.
 5 years ago '09        #271
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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and another analyst argues for the refs. Uh Oh people sh*t may not be as cut and dry as we thought initially.

 5 years ago '09        #272
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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I guess nobody is understanding possession isnt established until you hit the ground.
 5 years ago '12        #273
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
I guess nobody is understanding possession isnt established until you hit the ground.
Possession and completion of a catch is two different things. When a ref looks at a catch they first look for possession(control of the ball), and then look for the feet(knee, elbow, etc...) to land in the field of play.
 5 years ago '08        #274
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
and another analyst argues for the refs. Uh Oh people sh*t may not be as cut and dry as we thought initially.

There's always gonna be one or two who go against the grain to get attention.
 5 years ago '04        #275
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
I guess nobody is understanding possession isnt established until you hit the ground.
Tate didn't have simultaneous possession. What part of that is not clear to you? It was literally explained in 4 sentences about 5 posts above this.

I GUARANTEE if it was DeShaun Goldson in Jennings place, with Hakeem Nicks in Golden Tates position, with the EXACT same sequence happening, your tune would be MUCH different. But, that's not the case, so it's not. You hate the Packers, so.. I take it for what its worth.
 5 years ago '05        #276
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 berzerkerguts said:
They never call that sh*t on jump balls though.....
I understand they dont call the contact in the pile when cats go up...but that sh*t was beyond blatant.

That missed call is really what got the packers, cuz nothing after that shoulda mattered
 5 years ago '09        #277
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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The craziest part of all this are the idiots arguing that Jennings has possession because he has two hands on it Tate has one hand on it

I guess we've never seen a one handed catch ever in history huh? There is no rule stating how many hands determine possession people nor is there some sort of percentage of the ball held rule. Possession is possession and Tate has one hand under the ball which is between the ball and Jennings chest the whole time. Again I say, if Jennings knocks it down there Tate doesn't get to have his hand in there. The fact that he wanted so bad to pick it off he actually gave Tate a chance to make a case while pinning his left hand in there.

moral of the story, knock it down!
 5 years ago '04        #278
regularjoe 58 heat pts58
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Lol... I love that, "they never really call it"... alright, well next time there is a hail mary, just blatantly shove the defender since "they never really call it".

 5 years ago '07        #279
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didn't anyone notice that after wilson passed the ball there should of been a roughing the passer penalty that the packers got away with as usual...the universe has a way of balancing itself out you know
 5 years ago '04        #280
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 Fly 2ndComing said:
The craziest part of all this are the idiots arguing that Jennings has possession because he has two hands on it Tate has one hand on it

I guess we've never seen a one handed catch ever in history huh? There is no rule stating how many hands determine possession people nor is there some sort of percentage of the ball held rule. Possession is possession and Tate has one hand under the ball which is between the ball and Jennings chest the whole time. Again I say, if Jennings knocks it down there Tate doesn't get to have his hand in there. The fact that he wanted so bad to pick it off he actually gave Tate a chance to make a case while pinning his left hand in there.

moral of the story, knock it down!
In order for it to be simultaneous, one hand doesn't equal or outweigh two hands. I thought that would be clear to you, but since it's not, it makes my point, 99% of analysts point, players point, ex refs point, etc, etc, further more. But but but... you know more than them.
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