UFC 152: Jones vs Belfort Official Discussion Thread

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Who are your picks?
Jon Jones 41 77.36%
Vitor Belfort 10 18.87%
Benavidez 17 32.08%
Johnson 24 45.28%
Bisping 27 50.94%
Stann 14 26.42%
Hamill 35 66.04%
Hollett 5 9.43%
Oliveira 19 35.85%
Swanson 16 30.19%
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 6 years ago '04        #941
getyagameup 24 heat pts24
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 endless lies said:
Jesus Christ. Are you in love with this n*gga or something? I can already tell you're black and you've got such a sandy pus*y because Jones is black too and you want so bad for people to fall in love with him.


Jones prolly gives you feelings you only read about in Cosmo magazine or something. Out here writing a book on some n*gga you will never even meet.


First of all, you started watching MMA this year. THIS YEAR. You don't know sh*t. You don't spar. You don't train. You do nothing but watch the big names that everyone else knows.


People will form their own opinions on sh*t whether you like it or not.


Get a life.

been a fan of mma for a minute. dont just watch the big names. you're being retardly presumptuous. you don't know me man. what i've done and what i do. as far as my eyes goes, the man is the truth. i've done my share of mma, watching and participating so eat a d!ck. i think he's an exceptional f!ghter and yea, my opinion of him is high and i'mma have something to say to any hater that says some retarded sh*t about this man's f!ght game. and because i have some mma experience and actually watch the sport and know about it FROM EXPERIENCE i think my opinion has a bit more merit. you talk about liking or not liking opinions yet have an opinion about mine and tell me to get a life....if it ain't the pot calling the kettle a n*gga.
 6 years ago '04        #942
getyagameup 24 heat pts24
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 triznathaniel said:
This guy always in wall of text mode



That's true, but size advantage means so much in the cage... I'm not saying that's unfair... just that he is so skilled and a freak athlete that he seems unstoppable at this weight... I don't like the side that Jones has shown since the buildup for the Rashad f!ght, but I was a big fan once and I was excited to hear him say he plans to f!ght at HW... I said he hasn't been tested because he is a man amongst boys at 205, calm the fu*k down I'm giving your boy props



The previous 4 guys had held the belt in the last 18-24 months when Jonny fought em... Rampage is at least still f!ghting at the same weight and was top 3... Vitor is a middleweight, yeah he's in the top 5 there but he is giving up so much size, how can you really be as proud of this victory as the last 4?



What in thee blue hell are you talking about? Jon Jones has been talking about not being able to cut down to 205 within the next 2 years. He's been saying this since before he fought Shogun. Did anyone aside from you say that he wouldn't be the best p4p if he didn't f!ght at HW? Did anyone say Jon Jones needs to get as big as Reem to be good at that weight class?

The haters could never be as annoying as Jon Jones's stans...



:jacmonson:
1)ok he has a size advantage...he's taller and longer....the f!ghts still have to be fought...he's winning. i am calm. ok. so he said that he can't keep cutting weight and is going to move to hw. hasnt yet. in the mean time, he's running through the division. you giving him props is noted.

2)he weight 204.6, vitor weighed 204.2 at weigh ins....what was the f!ght night weight...i'm sure he gained some weight back however, he's fought at lhw before....had a decent camp....almost submitted him.....fought well, came up short...as a fan of the sport, yea, great f!ght, outstanding. didn't look like much of a size advantage accept as far as height and reach goes, which is normal f!ght disparity. he overcame serious adversity, fought one armed and got a submission against a very tough opponent, so yes, i think it was one of his better f!ghts.

3)a bunch of people said that he needs to move up cuz there's no comp in the lhw except rashad and lyoto and he needs to move up like overroids....i know there's 54 pages of posts however a bunch of people said the same thing.

4)watching mma and doing mma are different things. this is an a.ssumption but i think most of the cats on here commenting haven't done both. i have so watching this dude's skills in the cage is great as a fan of mma. having done it i can appreciate the skills he consistently shows and it makes me vehemently criticize cats who have no idea what the fu*k they're talking about from a f!ghting standpoint, and are usually making their comments based on personality related opinions. gonna stop typing now before i write another novel and get criticized for explaining myself, in detail.
 6 years ago '04        #943
getyagameup 24 heat pts24
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 endless lies said:
Bullsh*t.

You don't have any MMA experience. You never fought someone in any sanctioned bout or anything. Stop lying.


Watching MMA is not experience bro. Calm down.
dude, do you know me from a hole in the wall????? i mean really. you don't so how do you know i've never fought anywhere??? you don't know me. i've put in time in an mma environment, fought and won......dude, you're really just sounding stupid. YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO HOW THE fu*k ARE YOU EVEN COMMENTING???? you're making statements that you have absolutely no factual information about. so i'm going to stop even entertaining you cuz you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. you're right though....i don't have "professional" experience in mma if that make you feel better. it was all amateur stuff. nah, never been in a "sanctioned" bout. still, i'm sure what i've done and as much as i've trained is more than 80% of the dudes in this thread.


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 09-23-2012, 05:36 PM         #944
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 6 years ago '06        #945
nightmare 429 heat pts429
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 MysticKJ said:
235? where did you hear that? he must carry a good deal of pudge to cut that much weight, if true...

He probably does f!ght at 220s...I think that is a normal f!ght weight for a normal-sized LHW though...because you have some MWs rehydrating to 205-210 lbs for f!ght night; I would expect a LHW to be about 15 lbs more than that...

true, but Griffin is known to be one the larger LHWs while Ace is able to make MW...

don't get me wrong, Bones does carry a size advantage...he could probably be 240lbs if he wanted...he's said before that he has changed his diet and lifestyle to make sure he maximizes his time a LHW...as long as he doesn't starve himself the way Overeem used to I think it's not a big deal...

personally, i've always wanted to see Bones vs. Griffin...they'd be the same size in the cage and Griffin has slick jitz...but Bones would probably just pick him apart on the feet and never get to the ground anyways...
i was watching the countdown to his f!ght with bisping and his trainer sed he walks around at 230
 6 years ago '06        #946
nightmare 429 heat pts429
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 getyagameup said:
now it's a he should be a heavyweight issue???? i swear yall cats on here are k!lling me. he is a light heavy weight. fu*k what he is before the f!ght, walking around weight, sleeping weight, taking a sh*t weight....yall n*ggas seem to come up with all kinds of suggestions, excuses, rationalizations, etc about this man's prowess. he's fought the best of the best 5 times is a row and has stopped all of them, except rashad who he beat up and there is still "oh jones, needs to move up" "jones this" "jones that"

yall n*ggas is worse than a bunch of bi*ches. oh, vitor had a broken hand. his bjj black belt doesn't really count because he got tapped by a k1 f!ghter. even though he almost broke jj arm in the first round....got dropped on his neck and still almost broke his sh*t. THE MAN IS RUNNING THROUGH THE LHW DIVISION AND n*ggaS CAN'T EVEN RESPECT IT WITHOUT COMING UP WITH SOME REASON TO INVALIDATE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. i'm done with yall suckas. respect the man's gangster. he's not a hw right now. he's a lhw, the champ, beaten all the former champs, badly. end of conversation.
n*ggas is pathetic with they jon jones hate vitors black belt was just fine BEFORE the f!ght
 6 years ago '05        #947
zogby 42 heat pts42
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 endless lies said:
Jesus Christ. Are you in love with this n*gga or something? I can already tell you're black and you've got such a sandy pus*y because Jones is black too and you want so bad for people to fall in love with him.


Jones prolly gives you feelings you only read about in Cosmo magazine or something. Out here writing a book on some n*gga you will never even meet.


First of all, you started watching MMA this year. THIS YEAR. You don't know sh*t. You don't spar. You don't train. You do nothing but watch the big names that everyone else knows.


People will form their own opinions on sh*t whether you like it or not.


Get a life.
Bones jones used to be hated on here and called an uncle tom in every fu*king thread
he got called the black f!ghter that appeals to only to whites and got attacked for his Christianity , called a sell out of to his race etc
now that hes beefing with dana and fu*ked over ufc 151 hes suddenly become the GOAT and all that sh*t has completely disappeared
 6 years ago '10        #948
rockyin4 14 heat pts14
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 zogby said:
Bones jones used to be hated on here and called an uncle tom in every fu*king thread
he got called the black f!ghter that appeals to only to whites and got attacked for his Christianity , called a sell out of to his race etc
now that hes beefing with dana and fu*ked over ufc 151 hes suddenly become the GOAT and all that sh*t has completely disappeared
Lol I don't mind Jones but this did happen. Wait till Ben Henderson starts keeping it real Boxden is gonna go crazy.
 6 years ago '04        #949
thehawk33 2 heat pts
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Damn cats still really think Belfort was some grappling wizard because of his black belt? Are we gonna act like Bones hadn't already proven superior grappling skills even prior to this f!ght (submitting established Black belts in Machida, and experienced grapplers like Rampage, and not getting submitted by Hammer Wielding Dutch Kickboxers)? The best grappler Belfort's submitted in his career was Bobby Southworth
 6 years ago '08        #950
triznathaniel 43 heat pts43
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 nightmare said:
n*ggas is pathetic with they jon jones hate vitors black belt was just fine BEFORE the f!ght
It's cool if you like Jones or whatever, but no one who's been paying attention took Vitor that seriously as a threat to Bones. That and Jonny has already asked for a f!ght at HW, it isn't some idea concocted by haters out of the blue...
 6 years ago '09        #951
dadon85 137 heat pts137
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Bones just caused strikeforce to cancel. Let the hate commence
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