UFC 152: Jones vs Belfort Official Discussion Thread

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Who are your picks?
Jon Jones 41 77.36%
Vitor Belfort 10 18.87%
Benavidez 17 32.08%
Johnson 24 45.28%
Bisping 27 50.94%
Stann 14 26.42%
Hamill 35 66.04%
Hollett 5 9.43%
Oliveira 19 35.85%
Swanson 16 30.19%
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 5 years ago '04        #901
thehawk33 2 heat pts
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 nightmare said:
everytime jones about to f!ght, ppl sleep on him, saying he gonna get merked, then after he whoop they a.ss, ppl like u try to justify it, by saying the dude he fought as bum in the first place

You're confusing my criticisms of Vitor Belfort for being criticisms of Jon Jones. He's dominated against legit P4P competition in guys like Machida, Rua, Jackson, and Evans. Not many f!ghters in the world can say such and no one in the history of MMA has done so as quickly as Jones has. And I'm not even critical of the choice of Belfort as an opponent for Jones given the situation, but to overrate his grappling with no basis beyond "He has a BJJ Black belt" is beyond ignorant.
 5 years ago '09        #902
Zaosyn 261 heat pts261 OP
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 thehawk33 said:
You're confusing my criticisms of Vitor Belfort for being criticisms of Jon Jones. He's dominated against legit P4P competition in guys like Machida, Rua, Jackson, and Evans. Not many f!ghters in the world can say such and no one in the history of MMA has done so as quickly as Jones has. And I'm not even critical of the choice of Belfort as an opponent for Jones given the situation, but to overrate his grappling with no basis beyond "He has a BJJ Black belt" is beyond ignorant.
you're forgetting roidenom had a broken hand too
 5 years ago '06        #903
nightmare 429 heat pts429
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 Zaosyn said:
you're forgetting roidenom had a broken hand too
you forgetting, jones had one arm
 5 years ago '04        #904
thehawk33 2 heat pts
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 Zaosyn said:
you're forgetting roidenom had a broken hand too
I wonder what the official statement of the Belfort camp will be

Im guessing Tatame will be posting an interview with his manager where the manager is claiming Vitor lost due to his broken hand, jet lag, feline AIDS, any combination of illegal strikes unnoticed by the cameras, and lack of time to prepare, by the end of the week.
 5 years ago '06        #905
Yung Dilla 1478 heat pts1478
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lol zao please stfu i have no issues with you like mostly everyone else but you make it so easy to hate you lmao. Only person that was injured f!ghting jones was belfort and it wasn't even a big injury it was a fractured hand that the doctor cleared him to f!ght with anyway. He almost finished jones.
 5 years ago '12        #906
Dee352 170 heat pts170
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Well Jon jones definitely needs to move up to HW now he will destroy any LHW they put in front of him
 09-23-2012, 09:04 AM         #907
Cowboys All Day 
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Zao still in here making excuses, move on dipsh*t, we know you dont know sh*t about mma it's ok...
 5 years ago '09        #908
Ricky Towel 128 heat pts128
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every f!ght zaosyn swears jones will lose.


every f!ght zaosyn is wrong.


then like a female he makes excuses and moves on to the next guy he think will beat jones only to lose.


its a sad cycle.
 5 years ago '09        #909
ill 800 64 heat pts64
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i cant believe anyone gave belfort much of a chance. i give him credit for sticking in there for four rounds
 5 years ago '09        #910
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244
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 DR JAYY said:
at you comparing a armbar to a leg lock
Im comparing pain to pain
 5 years ago '05        #911
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 endless lies said:
Not taking anything away from Jones. He's a beast. But still... He walks around at 226 lbs. Just add 13lbs and he'd be the same weight as Dos Santos and Cain and everyone else.
Bader said he walks around at 225 lbs, Rampage is constantly over 230 lbs, Forrest and Bonnar are always over 235 lbs...damn, Weidman and a good number of MWs walk around at 215-220lbs...

Bones' weight is in line with legitimate sized LHWs...not Bones' fault Shogun, Machida, Evans, and Belfort can make MW; these undersized LHWs need to kick rocks to the MW division...
 Zaosyn said:
Every top person you think he's beaten was never a top person to begin with, the person was injured coming into the f!ght OR the person beat themselves. He's beaten Roidenom with a broken hand, an injured Rampage, A Rashad without a gameplan, An old deaf guy, a washed up Pride f!ghter Shobum and was losing to Lyoto befor Lyoto made a mistake. Oh, lets not forget a TUF winner (which means nothing nowadays) Ryan Bader and 41 year old Matyushenko
so Bones must be the luckiest n*gga alive then
 thehawk33 said:
Im guessing Tatame will be posting an interview with his manager where the manager is claiming Vitor lost due to his broken hand, jet lag, feline AIDS, any combination of illegal strikes unnoticed by the cameras, and lack of time to prepare, by the end of the week.
 5 years ago '10        #912
SeattleLost 797 heat pts797
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zao lives a sad life, my god
 5 years ago '10        #913
rockyin4 14 heat pts14
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Zao dumbass is always trolling I swear. To this day he'll tell you that Wandy beat Franklin in the second f!ght.
 5 years ago '08        #914
triznathaniel 42 heat pts42
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Nice night of f!ghts... I was begging for Vitor to go for the soccer kick in the beginning and was the loudest person at the bar when he went for it

It was a good win for Bones, looks like the 4th round sub is Jonny's calling card... Some of his fans oughta take it down a notch though...
 5 years ago '09        #915
dadon85 135 heat pts135
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 Gramz said:
How about he moves up, he's just a physical freak @ 205, no doubt about it. He was f!ghting a MW tonight and it took him 4 rounds to do what it took the real GOAT The Spider to do in one round.

Jones will lose once he f!ghts a skilled f!ghter who is his own size. I think Overeem would break him in half.
Too big? If he can make 205 then he's a lhw. Gsp is a big ww, Alves was a bigger ww. If you make the weight there should be no excuses. Vitor beat rumble Johnson. Tell ramp to f!ght hw instead of cutting 50lbs.
 5 years ago '06        #916
modalee 5 heat pts
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Zao is the now the biggest dumbass in the BXSC
 09-23-2012, 11:41 AM         #917
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 dadon85 said:
Too big? If he can make 205 then he's a lhw. Gsp is a big ww, Alves was a bigger ww. If you make the weight there should be no excuses. Vitor beat rumble Johnson. Tell ramp to f!ght hw instead of cutting 50lbs.
I'm saying to be considered the GOAT like many here want to proclaim him has.

Mystic is right when he says he's beating a bunch of undersized LHWs who can f!ght as MWs and he's also right when he says it isn't Bones' fault either, as he's just beating whoever they put in front of him. But most f!ght fans would be properly delusional to not notice he is clearly towering over every guy he's beating too.

If he's truly the GOAT, he would move up to HW and f!ght guys just as big as he is and dominate the way he is right now.
 5 years ago '05        #918
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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Bones isn't a big LHW when it comes down to weight...Rampage, Bonnar, Griffin, etc...carry much more weight...

Bones' size advantage comes with his long limbs...but make no mistake he is a LHW...Bones is just tall and skinny...

he shouldn't feel pressured to move to HW when he will be undersized there...he is a tall skinny LHW...it's not his fault the UFC keeps feeding him LHWs that can f!ght at MW (Shogun, Machida, Evans, Hendo)...
 5 years ago '06        #919
nightmare 429 heat pts429
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 Yung Dilla said:
lol zao please stfu i have no issues with you like mostly everyone else but you make it so easy to hate you lmao. Only person that was injured f!ghting jones was belfort and it wasn't even a big injury it was a fractured hand that the doctor cleared him to f!ght with anyway. He almost finished jones.
 Ricky Towel said:
every f!ght zaosyn swears jones will lose.


every f!ght zaosyn is wrong.


then like a female he makes excuses and moves on to the next guy he think will beat jones only to lose.


its a sad cycle.
he aint the only one tho, u should see sherdog
 5 years ago '05        #920
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 Gramz said:
I'm saying to be considered the GOAT like many here want to proclaim him has.

Mystic is right when he says he's beating a bunch of undersized LHWs who can f!ght as MWs and he's also right when he says it isn't Bones' fault either, as he's just beating whoever they put in front of him. But most f!ght fans would be properly delusional to not notice he is clearly towering over every guy he's beating too.

If he's truly the GOAT, he would move up to HW and f!ght guys just as big as he is and dominate the way he is right now.
Bones probably won't get a serious challenge at LHW; those HWs probably still won't have that 84" reach but the disparity will be less and his range will mean less there...

I also think that Bones is still going to improve and eliminate some of his holes...by the time he moves up to HW he might be much more skilled...

either way I can't wait until his first HW f!ght
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