UFC 152: Jones vs Belfort Official Discussion Thread

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Who are your picks?
Jon Jones 41 77.36%
Vitor Belfort 10 18.87%
Benavidez 17 32.08%
Johnson 24 45.28%
Bisping 27 50.94%
Stann 14 26.42%
Hamill 35 66.04%
Hollett 5 9.43%
Oliveira 19 35.85%
Swanson 16 30.19%
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 6 years ago '11        #861
PotheadFocker 174 heat pts174
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Submitted a black belt where the haters at?

 09-22-2012, 11:41 PM         #862
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At least The Phenom made him f!ght. Belfort should have pulled the trigger more times throughout the f!ght though.

I want to see Bones f!ght guys his own size and that would have to be HW. I still don't see him being able to beat a guy like Junior dos Santos or Alistair Overeem. His reach is too big to counter @ LHW and a rematch w/ Machida really doesn't interest me. I want to see him f!ght guys his own size.
 09-22-2012, 11:42 PM         #863
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 PotheadFocker said:
Submitted a black belt where the haters at?

One that it looked like he had 30 lbs. on. Bones looks very beatable to me.
 6 years ago '11        #864
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 Gramz said:
At least The Phenom made him f!ght. Belfort should have pulled the trigger more times throughout the f!ght though.

I want to see Bones f!ght guys his own size and that would have to be HW. I still don't see him being able to beat a guy like Junior dos Santos or Alistair Overeem. His reach is too big to counter @ LHW and a rematch w/ Machida really doesn't interest me. I want to see him f!ght guys his own size.
If those guys can f!ght LHW, why didn't they? We been cool for the longest but submitting one of your black belt idols doesn't get any of your respect? Sounds like salt
 6 years ago '04        #865
Liquid-Science 28 heat pts28
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Jones is a cyborg

too big for LHW but not quite big enough for HW

he's in the perfect spot...it's amazing how he got out of that arm bar
 6 years ago '04        #866
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If Vinny Magalhaes had better stand up and conditioning he would give Bones problems. He'll pull guard without hesitation and has better bjj off his back than Vitor.

I was actually very impressed by Vitor especially coming off short notice. I hope he gets a couple wins and gets another shot at Bones with a full camp.
 09-22-2012, 11:47 PM         #867
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 PotheadFocker said:
If those guys can f!ght LHW, why didn't they? We been cool for the longest but submitting one of your black belt idols doesn't get any of your respect? Sounds like salt
How about he moves up, he's just a physical freak @ 205, no doubt about it. He was f!ghting a MW tonight and it took him 4 rounds to do what it took the real GOAT The Spider to do in one round.

Jones will lose once he f!ghts a skilled f!ghter who is his own size. I think Overeem would break him in half.


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 09-22-2012, 11:48 PM         #868
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 bibbyboi said:
If Vinny Magalhaes had better stand up and conditioning he would give Bones problems. He'll pull guard without hesitation and has better bjj off his back than Vitor.

I was actually very impressed by Vitor especially coming off short notice. I hope he gets a couple wins and gets another shot at Bones with a full camp.
Vitor needs to go back to MW. He looked tiny compared to Bones.
 6 years ago '04        #869
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 Gramz said:
Vitor needs to go back to MW. He looked tiny compared to Bones.
I agree but he did do alright against the best LHW on 3 weeks notice. Also at a weight he hadn't fought at in a while.

I was trying to think who else in the LHW division has really good bjj off their back? Like really top level? Vinny is the only guy i could remember off the top of my head. Seems like their division is really lacking in that area.
 6 years ago '11        #870
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 Gramz said:
Vitor needs to go back to MW. He looked tiny compared to Bones.
Ain't nothing for him at middleweight but


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And using MMA math never works. Andersons striking is obviously light years ahead of Bones, but Anderson showed weakness to good wrestlers and Bones would exploit the sh*t outta that. I wouldn't put money either way but think Bones might take Spider. Get mad or whatever you can't really say until it happens.
 09-23-2012, 12:01 AM         #871
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 bibbyboi said:
I agree but he did do alright against the best LHW on 3 weeks notice. Also at a weight he hadn't fought at in a while.

I was trying to think who else in the LHW division has really good bjj off their back? Like really top level? Vinny is the only guy i could remember off the top of my head. Seems like their division is really lacking in that area.
He's just way too big for any LHW to contend with and his Greco-Roman, while not as good as Cormier's is still top notch. He's fu*king towering over these dudes @ LHW.

Cormier or Velasquez are the only guys I can see realistically dropping to LHW and beating Bones. Definitely Cormier, as he would be able to put Bones on his back but the reach would still be a problem.
 09-23-2012, 12:05 AM         #872
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 PotheadFocker said:
Ain't nothing for him at middleweight but


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And using MMA math never works. Andersons striking is obviously light years ahead of Bones, but Anderson showed weakness to good wrestlers and Bones would exploit the sh*t outta that. I wouldn't put money either way but think Bones might take Spider. Get mad or whatever you can't really say until it happens.
Vitor won't be contending for any titles any time soon. There's still some good f!ghts for him @ MW though. He needs to be f!ghting the Michael Bispings of the world right now.
 6 years ago '11        #873
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 Gramz said:
Cormier or Velasquez
Both of those dudes, especially Velasquez should be looking at Cigano not Bones. That is the division they have BEEN f!ghting in
 6 years ago '11        #874
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 Gramz said:
He needs to be f!ghting the Michael Bispings of the world right now.
Good point, I would love to see that dude layed out again
 6 years ago '05        #875
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 Gramz said:
At least The Phenom made him f!ght. Belfort should have pulled the trigger more times throughout the f!ght though.

I want to see Bones f!ght guys his own size and that would have to be HW. I still don't see him being able to beat a guy like Junior dos Santos or Alistair Overeem. His reach is too big to counter @ LHW and a rematch w/ Machida really doesn't interest me. I want to see him f!ght guys his own size.
This. But Jones had that reach. Was on his back the whole damn night
 6 years ago '04        #876
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Just got back from the event... I was sitting by Charlie Brenneman's entire family, they were shook and crying after he lost I felt bad for em...

The prelims were AMAZING, main card was kind of a let down... Hamill/Hollett was fu*king terrible... Stann was disappointing, Mighty Mouse is pretty decent and technical... Im confident now that no one can beat JBJ... No one... He'd probably run through Anderson Silva if he moves up to face him too... I see him clearing out the division in 6 months to a year from now, and moving up to HW... fu*k this guy man, he's so good...

Also, they are saying that Vitor broke his hand in training so thats why he wasn't letting his hands go, hurt his ribs too... I believe it, but wouldn't have made a difference anyways...
 6 years ago '11        #877
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 Russ369 said:
Just got back from the event... I was sitting by Charlie Brenneman's entire family, they were shook and crying after he lost I felt bad for em...

The prelims were AMAZING, main card was kind of a let down... Hamill/Hollett was fu*king terrible... Stann was disappointing, Mighty Mouse is pretty decent and technical... Im confident now that no one can beat JBJ... No one... He'd probably run through Anderson Silva if he moves up to face him too... I see him clearing out the division in 6 months to a year from now, and moving up to HW... fu*k this guy man, he's so good...

Also, they are saying that Vitor broke his hand in training so thats why he wasn't letting his hands go, hurt his ribs too... I believe it, but wouldn't have made a difference anyways...
Luckyyyyyyyyyy
 6 years ago '06        #878
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If elbowing on the ground was illegal Jones would not be the champ. I can see him destroying anyone at lhw. But if he moved up he will be fu*ked....
 6 years ago '04        #879
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i hope that anyone who has ever said sh*t about this man is happy with the performance that he's had against yet another former light heavy weight champion, and not some sh*t talking bum who would've been outclassed by demetrius johnson. the man is the best lb for lb if you ask me. his arm was about to break and this man still had the cojones to finish the f!ght with a sub with one arm.

he's one of the best f!ghters in the ufc if you ask me. haters, please apologize.
 6 years ago '06        #880
modalee 5 heat pts
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So many salty a.ss Jones haters after another fantastic performance. The man is already the GOAT LHW and he's only 25 years old. Anderson is too scared to move up to face him and all this talk about Jones moving to HW is bullsh*t. The dude walks around at 220-225lbs he's not a huge bulky LHW nor does he have a large frame to pack that much weight quickly. Jones is still another 2-3 years away from being big enough to be a legit HW naturally without the use of roids like Overeem. The MMA fans need to embrace this greatness that is Jon Bones Jones.
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