Lupe Fiasco Goes On Twitter Rant Against "Uppity Black Ni--as," Defends Right Not To Vote

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 5 years ago '06        #61
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Can't wrap my head around young black men in this country hating on the statement that he's making. We can agree and disagree about the voting sh*t but the real issues that effect our everyday lives are never addressed by the people that he's shooting at.

I commend him for that sh*t and wouldn't mind him being my voice on certain issues. That's just me though.
 5 years ago '10        #62
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 hood135 said:
Can't wrap my head around young black men in this country hating on the statement that he's making. We can agree and disagree about the voting sh*t but the real issues that effect our everyday lives are never addressed by the people that he's shooting at.

I commend him for that sh*t and wouldn't mind him being my voice on certain issues. That's just me though.
hes not offering a solution to voting though. so I don't see how you can commend him for simply saying don't vote because they don't care. so where is the better solution then?
 5 years ago '08        #63
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 abstractq said:
I disagree

to me, if youre out there voting, then you lose some of the right to bi*ch about the way things are. You perpetuate the same bullsh*t over and over just by voting to keep it all in place. Like if you know a guy is kinda slimy, but he's the lesser of two evils, how can you then turn around and bi*ch about how slimy the guy you elected is? You knew he was fu*ked up from the beginning and you put him into power

people would do themselves a lot more good in the long run if they were willing to withhold their vote and make these politicians really address their concerns
over explained but accurate
 5 years ago '06        #64
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 Moony Jackson said:
hes not offering a solution to voting though. so I don't see how you can commend him for simply saying don't vote because they don't care. so where is the better solution then?
lupe never told everybody not to vote somebody asked him a question and he gave his honest opinion.
 5 years ago '10        #65
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 marcusaka50 said:
lupe never told everybody not to vote somebody asked him a question and he gave his honest opinion.
then he could have easily said no comment and not chose to put his backwards views out there

words is powerful and people are easily influenced. you got a bunch of these idiots who are agreeing with him and further disenfranchising their interests

if he chose to put his opinion out there he should have also came with a solution because its a real topic that needs intelligence and insight not just candor and defiance
 09-21-2012, 02:12 PM         #66
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So sick of this cat...
 09-21-2012, 02:18 PM         #67
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 Illstreet said:
So sick of this cat...
i'm so sick of you...
 5 years ago '05        #68
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Written in 09
Citigroup Memo from 06
You see Michael Moore highlights a confidential report that Citigroup initially circulated only to it's wealthiest customers. Those reports, since leaked, plainly discuss the power of the Plutonomy in America, and how it would only strengthen, as long as the "the rest us" (the non-plutonics) could be kept in the dark about the Plutonomy existence, its role, and its over-arching control in the American Economy.

Even though the Plutonomy (the top 1%) control over 50% of the net worth in America -- they don't control the Votes!

The thing they most fear is the principle of "one person -- one vote".


You see despite their extreme wealth and power, they only have 1% of the vote; "the rest us" control the other 99% of the votes. So if we ever caught on and, I don't know, maybe raised their taxes back to where it use to be (40-90% range), well maybe they couldn't have a Yacht in every city, or a Mansion in a half dozen states. Maybe they couldn't "lose count" of how many homes they owned.
 Citigroup Memo said:
Our whole plutonomy thesis is based on the idea that the rich will keep getting richer. This thesis is not without its risks. For example, a policy error leading to a.sset deflation, would likely damage plutonomy. Furthermore, the rising wealth gap between the rich and poor will probably at some point lead to a political backlash. Whilst the rich are getting a greater share of the wealth, and the poor a lesser share, political enfrachisement remains as was -- one person, one vote (in the plutonomies). At some point it is likely that labor will f!ght back against the rising profit share of the rich and there will be a political backlash against the rising wealth of the rich. This could be felt through higher taxation on the rich (or indirectly though higher corporate taxes/regulation) or through trying to protect indigenous [home-grown] laborers, in a push-back on globalization -- either anti-mmigration, or protectionism. We donít see this happening yet, though there are signs of rising political tensions. However we are keeping a close eye on developments.



Lupe says voting doesn't matter
Big Bank Citigroup says voting does matter

but you place your faith in this n*gga , stupidity at its' finest
 5 years ago '10        #69
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 Peterparker said:
Speaking on how slavery effects us today is not laziness but a fu*king reality. Not to mention Lupe is more successful and in a higher position of influence then YOU so how can that equate to laziness? Use logic and not generalization. You can't compare the Holocaust to 500 plus years of enslavement. That's generations upon generations of programming. It's not even about being a victim because some of the most successful black people realize this. I mean look at your way of thinking it's flawed as fu*k. The Natives and their "casino game" has little to no impact on the impoverished reservations in America. I mean have you been to a reservation? Some of the poorest places in the country. Some are far worst then black areas in America. But of course you clearly being an easy manipulative person don't see this because they don't show this on mainstream tv and how many Native Americans do you know? And I aint talking about "Oh I got Indian in my family"

To identify slavery as the root of our problems is stating facts and dealing with history. Why the hell do you think we have historians for? Nobody uses slavery as an excuse to not get a job. It's plenty of people from every race in this country who can't find work and it's not because of laziness or "slavery". It's obvious you have no clue on the history of race and economics in this country and how it is still the same method to this day. Not just in this country but around the globe. The poorest countries on the planet are countries that are full of dark skinned people. If there is a white demographic and a people of color demographic in any country you will see the same dynamic as you do in this country. Now if you think it just boils down to being lazy then damn near most people of African and Indigenous descent is simply Lazy all over the world huh?



Where are yall getting that Lupe said, "If you vote your a house negro?" He responded to Roland Martin and D.L. Hugley for attacking him for what he believed in. And he said them 2 negros were house n*ggas and not because of voting but there mentality and dependency on voting and the government as if that's the ONLY solution to our problems. It takes more then relying on someone else who doesn't have your best interest anyway to fix your OWN problems.

You damn right it's a crab in a bucket mentality for you to focus on that instead of focusing on a much bigger issue. I mean you telling me you don't contradict to some extent? And life is all about progression my man. I'm pretty sure he wanted black ppl to get away from using the term n*gga but that doesn't mean if he get's angry he might throw back at somebody to defend himself. He only human. It's contradicting if he says I don't use the word ever and neither do you and then turns around and use it.

How is lupe promoting ignorance? Because of his usage of the term n*gga? Is that the best you can come up with? Let's see Chief Keef raps about murdering,selling drugs, degrading women and somehow Lupe is the same?? Maybe i'm missing something here. Like do you not comprehend what Lupe is saying? It's not that hard fam
I don't even

first of all clearly you're a biased lupe fan who think he can never do wrong

you say its ok for him to contradict himself and then you expect people to take him seriously?

you say its ok for him to rap like chuck d but then get on twitter and act ignorant like waka flocka?

hes not consistent and he doesn't lead by example

going on a rant about uppity black n*ggas is in itself a crab in the barrel thing and clearly you can't see that

hes not the first rapper to ever get criticized for his views. does that make it ok for him to go on social media and be ignorant and talk down on other black people?
 5 years ago '06        #70
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 Moony Jackson said:
then he could have easily said no comment and not chose to put his backwards views out there

words is powerful and people are easily influenced. you got a bunch of these idiots who are agreeing with him and further disenfranchising their interests

if he chose to put his opinion out there he should have also came with a solution because its a real topic that needs intelligence and insight not just candor and defiance
Why should he not say what he wants?...He don't represent you.....He say what the fu*k he want to say just like you can.

Everybody is easily influenced whether you vote or don't vote.

Maybe Lupe is or isn't good at explaining his solution...I don't know.

But there is alot of people who feel the same way Lupe does.

Some of those people get to be looked at on tv as crazy or not smart at all.

We need somebody who can represent the people that feel that way.

Somebody who can explain it but to the point it make sense to the world.

We need another MLK type person because after he died sh*t change for the good for everybody.
 5 years ago '08        #71
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 dlettern said:
No offense taken as I did understand the post. There is never a good reason to call brothers and sisters "black n*gga anything". Black people should have opinions and discuss them freely without calling each other n*ggas. The disrespect is awful. This dude claims to be all militant, but has done zero to create or support any substantial political movement. All hot air
i get it. thats a cool way to look at things and good way to stay positive but thats not everyone's reality. sometimes a n*gga needs to remember he's a n*gga. as ignorant as that sounds, this is still very much a white man's country no matter the race of our president. and whoever denies that is who you should pay more attention to.


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 5 years ago '10        #72
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 marcusaka50 said:
Why should he not say what he wants?...He don't represent you.....He say what the fu*k he want to say just like you can.

Everybody is easily influenced whether you vote or don't vote.

Maybe Lupe is or isn't good at explaining his solution...I don't know.

But there is alot of people who feel the same way Lupe does.

Some of those people get to be looked at on tv as crazy or not smart at all.

We need somebody who can represent the people that feel that way.

Somebody who can explain it but to the point it make sense to the world.

We need another MLK type person because after he died sh*t change for the good for everybody.
lupe has the right to say whatever he wants but if he calls himself a conscious rapper he should be aware of his influence on his sheep fans that follow him

mlk was proactive, lupe is not. he just wants to say whatever he feels without thinking of how his views affect others
 5 years ago '05        #73
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I love Lupe, but if he wants to defend his right to not vote, then i don't see how he can talk politics with any validity... it's like the people who call themselves real fans of an artist and never buy an album or see them on tour... you're just talking and saying nothing at that point.
 5 years ago '10        #74
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Not voting either...
 5 years ago '10        #75
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 Peterparker said:
Wowwww he can't do no wrong?? That is what I said huh? Your picking and choosing and doing alot of misinterpretation and twisting people's words. And you think he came off like Waka Flocka?? Really?? Clearly you can't see he was responding to Roland Martin and D.L. Hugley speaking out against him first. And addressing those dudes not everybody who votes. I mean damn homie can you read?

Lol@talk down on other black people..so basically your saying don't defend yourself if somebody insults you first? I would like to see if you don't response if I come out of nowhere and call you a fu*king dumbsh*t idiot.
like I said before, lupe is not the first rapper to get criticized for his views by people in the media

just because they criticized him doesn't mean he should go on twitter an act like an a.ss and calling them uppity black n*ggas

when I read those tweets it almost seems like hes acting and doing it on purpose and I know hes smart enough to know how to address people without sounding so ignorant

lupe is trying to play both sides. either be a socially conscious rapper or be an ignorant n*gga with no awareness of his own influence
 5 years ago '06        #76
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Other day I was listening to Michael Baisden on the radio and he was calling black people out for not voting and I tried to call in to let his dumb a.ss know that our people fought for the RIGHT to vote. That right can be exercised or not. He's trying to make it seem as though because our ancestors fought and died for that right and others, I'm automatically supposed to vote. fu*k him and fu*k anyone who thinks that's sh*t. I agree with Lupe. I'm not voting in a system I don't agree with.

The two party system is the way it is so that big business and others can lobby for laws that only benefit them and fu*k the rest of us. Obama doesn't need my vote anymore than Romney and I refuse to vote for him just because he's black and I'm black and we have something in common. That doesn't change the bullsh*t that's gone down during his presidency or the future bullsh*t that will go down during his second term. The game is rigged like a motherfu*ker, so why bother voting in the first place?

On paper, Obama seems like the better candidate. He seems like he gives a fu*k about the American people, but truth be told, he's working for the same people Romney is. Campaigns don't pay for themselves and anyone dumb enough to believe Obama is going to change anything should k!ll themselves. The people paying for the campaign are the people he's going to help.

fu*k Obama, fu*k Romney, fu*k Michael Baisden, fu*k the two party system and fu*k anyone trying to get people to vote in this bullsh*t a.ss election. We've got enough problems without ignorant people trying to get us to vote for a system and candidates we can't believe in.


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 5 years ago '06        #77
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 Moony Jackson said:
lupe has the right to say whatever he wants but if he calls himself a conscious rapper he should be aware of his influence on his sheep fans that follow him

mlk was proactive, lupe is not. he just wants to say whatever he feels without thinking of how his views affect others
fu*k everybody else if I got a personal opinion on something I'm say how I feel maybe lupe isn't the right person for job to speak on it were everybody can understand.

MLK is those type of people a proactive person as you would say.
 5 years ago '08        #78
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 WCIB said:
I love Lupe, but if he wants to defend his right to not vote, then i don't see how he can talk politics with any validity... it's like the people who call themselves real fans of an artist and never buy an album or see them on tour... you're just talking and saying nothing at that point.
you used a bad analogy folk. not the same thing at all. as long as something affects you directly then you have the right to discuss that. in lupe's case with even more validity since he has chosen no side. you do not have to vote one way or the other or buy into something for it to affect you.
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 slimdogg3325 said:
you used a bad analogy folk. not the same thing at all. as long as something affects you directly then you have the right to discuss that. in lupe's case with even more validity since he has chosen no side. you do not have to vote one way or the other or buy into something for it to affect you.
this is true, but he's not only chosen not to vote, which to me he hasn't made clear he's just talking about the election or other votes like the laws that come up that you can vote for as well. so, if he's going to not vote, simply talking and not actually ACTING, means he's saying nothing at all. so the analogy is apt. all you see are people who talk sh*t about how they're big fans of someone and they don't even support them. what lupe is doing is analogous to nothing IMO.
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 ima80baby said:
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fu*k Obama, fu*k Romney, fu*k Michael Baisden, fu*k the two party system and fu*k anyone trying to get people to vote in this bullsh*t a.ss election. We've got enough problems without ignorant people trying to get us to vote for a system and candidates we can't believe in.
You act like there aren't over 150 different candidates running that you could write in and even contribute to.

What was stopping people like you and lupe from getting together and making a PAC last year? You know it's fair to not like the two party system but its really not okay to keep talking and not doing anything. You help no one when you sit there and cry and complain about the situation.


The biggest thing that keeps America from having multiple parties is because the people that would vote for their candidates stay home.

Just look at the tea party, they came up grassroots and got rich people to pay attention to them. In a few years they'll either take over the traditional Republican Party or they'll have their own. The libertarians were beginning a slower but similar path before 2008. What separates the two is that one was able to energize the vote (albeit through racism) and the other just wasn't.

So find a candidate that looks like you policy wise and go vote for them.
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