Saints Suspensions LIFTED??

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 6 years ago '12        #41
SDC17 38 heat pts38
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Saints won.


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 6 years ago '04        #42
ghettofied 357 heat pts357
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 hockeythug said:
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
He sure can, the fact they want to f!ght this head to head. Goodell will probably stick to his guns, call in the FBI agents and release the evidence.
 6 years ago '05        #43
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This n*gga Vilma said "Victory is mine" - In his Stewie voice. NFL taking a big L here. I guess Goodell fu*ked with the wrong n*gga.
 6 years ago '08        #44
Tecnique 27 heat pts27
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 Macaroni&steeZ said:
fixed
We'll see
 6 years ago '05        #45
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 hockeythug said:
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
 6 years ago '09        #46
ReggieA 196 heat pts196
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Goodell has to be salty as hell at this
 6 years ago '12        #47
SDC17 38 heat pts38
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Coaches and GM's are not legislated by the CBA, therefore their suspensions will still be in effect.
 6 years ago '11        #48
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 hockeythug said:
Goodell can still overturn it again. Just has to prove there was intent to injure.
He can't prove it
 6 years ago '05        #49
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 iggyemu said:
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
same thing i was thinking. if they have the evidence, then they presented it during this trial, they wouldnt wait. i dont even see how they could overturn this. maybe appeal it, but not overturn
 6 years ago '04        #50
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Bounty suspensions will now go back to the Commissioner

Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2012, 4:07 PM EDT

The players suspended by Commissioner Roger Goodell for involvement in the Saints bounty suspension rightfully have claimed victory.

For now.

Inspection of the four-page summary decision signed by Richard J. Howell on behalf of a unanimous three-person panel reveals that the case will now go back to Goodell. The panel decided that, based on the various overlapping jurisdictions of Goodell and the “System Arbitrator” and others under the labor deal, it’s unclear that the suspensions imposed by Goodell fall within his jurisdiction, and not the jurisdiction of the “System Arbitrator.”

(Confused yet? So are we.)

Actually, it’s not that complicated. The CBA gives different people different responsibility for sorting out different types of disputes. Here, the arbitration panel decided it’s not entirely clear whether Goodell imposed the suspensions under his authority to prevent conduct detrimental to the game or whether he infringed on the exclusive power of the “System Arbitrator” to penalize violations of the salary cap, arising from the fact that money potentially changed hands in connection with the pay-for-performance/bounty program.

“While we agree, then, that the Commissioner had jurisdiction to discipline the Players in this case, we are uncertain that the discipline handed down was attributable, in any part, to that aspect of the Program which lies within the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Arbitrator,” Howell writes. “While we could speculate, it is not clear from the record before us whether had the distinction we draw in mind at the time he disciplined the players.”

It all could, in time, end up in the same place. For now, however, the panel has opted to be careful. “In light of the serious nature of the penalties imposed,” Howell writes, “we believe caution is appropriate.”

Though the NFL eventually may win the war, losing this battle will have an enormous P.R. impact. People will view the Commissioner’s authority as being less than what it may be, and internally the blame will fall on the lawyers who failed to properly draw the lines when drawing up the penalties.
 6 years ago '04        #51
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Bet goddell feels like sh*t
 6 years ago '10        #52
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 KeepinItTrill said:
damn that's surprising

wait does this mean Sean Payton's suspension is lifted too?
no goodell couldnt suspend both they said. so coach is still suspended for now. only way players get suspended is if there is evidence shown
 6 years ago '05        #53
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 regularjoe said:
Bounty suspensions will now go back to the Commissioner

Posted by Mike Florio on September 7, 2012, 4:07 PM EDT

The players suspended by Commissioner Roger Goodell for involvement in the Saints bounty suspension rightfully have claimed victory.

For now.

Inspection of the four-page summary decision signed by Richard J. Howell on behalf of a unanimous three-person panel reveals that the case will now go back to Goodell. The panel decided that, based on the various overlapping jurisdictions of Goodell and the “System Arbitrator” and others under the labor deal, it’s unclear that the suspensions imposed by Goodell fall within his jurisdiction, and not the jurisdiction of the “System Arbitrator.”

(Confused yet? So are we.)

Actually, it’s not that complicated. The CBA gives different people different responsibility for sorting out different types of disputes. Here, the arbitration panel decided it’s not entirely clear whether Goodell imposed the suspensions under his authority to prevent conduct detrimental to the game or whether he infringed on the exclusive power of the “System Arbitrator” to penalize violations of the salary cap, arising from the fact that money potentially changed hands in connection with the pay-for-performance/bounty program.

“While we agree, then, that the Commissioner had jurisdiction to discipline the Players in this case, we are uncertain that the discipline handed down was attributable, in any part, to that aspect of the Program which lies within the exclusive jurisdiction of the System Arbitrator,” Howell writes. “While we could speculate, it is not clear from the record before us whether had the distinction we draw in mind at the time he disciplined the players.”

It all could, in time, end up in the same place. For now, however, the panel has opted to be careful. “In light of the serious nature of the penalties imposed,” Howell writes, “we believe caution is appropriate.”

Though the NFL eventually may win the war, losing this battle will have an enormous P.R. impact. People will view the Commissioner’s authority as being less than what it may be, and internally the blame will fall on the lawyers who failed to properly draw the lines when drawing up the penalties.
So long story short, the panel ruled that Goodell overstepped his boundaries in suspending the players for that amount of games?
 6 years ago '04        #54
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 iggyemu said:
That's why we are here now. He can't prove it. He can only prove that there was a pay for performance program not a pay for injure one.
Nah i don't think that's accurate... I read the players suspension was overturned because it was determined that Goddell improperly used his power during the punishments... I don't think it had anything to do with evidence... I think the evidence is there it's just Goddell has to properly go through the channels to suspend the players for the evidence that was found...

I haven't read anywhere that the decision was overturned due to lack of evidence... I think they will eventually be suspended but Goddell does not have the jurisdiction to perform the bans he placed on those players due to the CBA
 6 years ago '04        #55
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 iggyemu said:
So long story short, the panel ruled that Goodell overstepped his boundaries in suspending the players for that amount of games?
It still has to be played out. They could still end up being suspended is what I got from the article. (Unless they're talking strictly PR. Which I don't think they are).

It all could, in time, end up in the same place.


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 6 years ago '04        #56
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 iggyemu said:
So long story short, the panel ruled that Goodell overstepped his boundaries in suspending the players for that amount of games?
Yeah just saw RegularJoe's post... Good read
 6 years ago '10        #57
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 Gater said:
fu*k the saints
fu*k you too n*gga
 09-07-2012, 02:34 PM         #58
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Ohhhhhh sh*t! Bwahahaha! fu*k Goodell
 6 years ago '10        #59
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good, so they can get boo'd like a muthafu*ker in every city.
 6 years ago '05        #60
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Wow.

The first time Wilma does an accidental hit that could result in a suspension he's gone for the season. Roger going to watch every Saints game with a magnifying glass and pray that Wilma fu*ks up.

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