UFC 151 Canceled: Dan Henderson Injured, Jones Turns Down Sonnen As replacement

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 6 years ago '05        #141
HiRolliN 110 heat pts110
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 Mumbletaker said:
Where is the most money at? f!ghting sonnen on less than two weeks of build up or f!ghting sonnen with a sh*t load of build up? Sonnen/Jones is already a bigger match up just because Jones turned down UFC 151. I'll admit that the flip side to this is a rematch (with the loser using the lack of prep time as an excuse) down the line would be huge.

Machida is irrelevant in this situation. He's getting a shot no matter what. The bigger picture is about Dana/ufc losing control of a f!ghter in his prime.
ya thats the major thing to come from this jones unknowingly sent out a message to future champions that they can do this sort of thing.
 6 years ago '05        #142
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 6 years ago '06        #143
vinceisallin 11 heat pts11
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 Mumbletaker said:
Where is the most money at? f!ghting sonnen on less than two weeks of build up or f!ghting sonnen with a sh*t load of build up? Sonnen/Jones is already a bigger match up just because Jones turned down UFC 151. I'll admit that the flip side to this is a rematch (with the loser using the lack of prep time as an excuse) down the line would be huge.

Machida is irrelevant in this situation. He's getting a shot no matter what. The bigger picture is about Dana/ufc losing control of a f!ghter in his prime.
I'd bet my paycheck that machida jones with a month of build up will not do close to the numbers of Sonnen vs jones. If you don't believe you just don't understand the crowds of people that hang on to every word he says on twitter. You get on some mma forums before the last silva f!ght and people hated and discredited every AS f!ght and career.That f!ght was a monster draw and Silvas numbers were never close to Gsp or lesnars. He would tweet ten times and have more attention than 10 months of machida hyping it. A lot of pissed off fans are going to boycott I guarantee. You ain't getting 60 from me no more jones, I'll stream everyone of em from here on out
 6 years ago '04        #144
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 Bea5T said:
hows it a bi*ch a.ss move, Chael doesnt deserve that f!ght and its a huge waste of time

just because dude opened his mouth doesnt mean jones should lower himself and f!ght this bum
Real talk, not to mention you train for the f!ghter you are f!ghting, and end up switching at the last minute. Thats BS waiting to happen....
 6 years ago '06        #145
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They could have just made the f!ght a non title f!ght. Since Sonnen, since everyone's on the Sonnen doesn't deserve it.




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 6 years ago '09        #146
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 Drug Dylan said:
Real talk, not to mention you train for the f!ghter you are f!ghting, and end up switching at the last minute. Thats BS waiting to happen....
Well Chael wasnt training for anybody so he is at a huge disadvantage, and the people saying Chael doesnt deserve a shot need to realize the other people asked didnt accept. Did that math teacher deserve to f!ght Silva again? no but it happened and that wanst because of someone pulling out. Dana said had this not happened Sonnen would of had to beat 3 LHWs starting with Griffin

^If you f!ght the champ its a title f!ght, unless it was catch weight but there is no need for that

I said before Jones was the best f!ghter ever but he is a c*nt for this(with Sonnen not prepared at all this would probably of been a mismatch so it would of been money for jam for Jones and the show could of went on), i cant believe people are defending him


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 6 years ago '04        #147
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 vinceisallin said:
I'd bet my paycheck that machida jones with a month of build up will not do close to the numbers of Sonnen vs jones. If you don't believe you just don't understand the crowds of people that hang on to every word he says on twitter. You get on some mma forums before the last silva f!ght and people hated and discredited every AS f!ght and career.That f!ght was a monster draw and Silvas numbers were never close to Gsp or lesnars. He would tweet ten times and have more attention than 10 months of machida hyping it. A lot of pissed off fans are going to boycott I guarantee. You ain't getting 60 from me no more jones, I'll stream everyone of em from here on out
I agree. That's what interests me about this.

-Jones could have made more money but STILL said fu*k it. He pissed off a lot of people but still has that nike money lined up.

-Sonnen just got more fuel for the fire. He may be in line for a title shot if/when he beats griffen.

-Jones MUST dominate everyone in his path until the heat dies down from this. He pulled a boss move without really being at that status yet. Dana will forgive him down the line, but he'll petty about everything until then ("Should we include who's f!ght in the best 100 f!ghts in ufc history countdown? fu*k him, he's dead to me)

-If (big if) machida beats Jones he'll be a "hero" in the company's eyes.

Lots of ways to look at this.
 6 years ago '06        #148
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 Drug Dylan said:
Real talk, not to mention you train for the f!ghter you are f!ghting, and end up switching at the last minute. Thats BS waiting to happen....
Image if you moved up in weight and took a f!ght with 8 days to train for a 5 round f!ght. Real talk, that's some bs. Hahahahaha

Wow, it's almost the same f!ght except he's overhead right isnt as strong real talk man

Real talk
 6 years ago '04        #149
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LOL @ a f!ghter being the reason that the whole event is canceled . What type of shyt is that? Ok he doesnt want to f!ght, and the show has to go on, but you cant blame Jones for that blame the company ..
 6 years ago '05        #150
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You dumb sh*ts are looking at it from a fans perspective. If they "let the show go on" how do they justify that to the people that PAID to see Jones. Let's be honest; more people paid to see Jones than Hendo. That's why they wanted a replacement f!ght, but Jones was too scared to do it. He's a bi*ch and I HOPE he loses to Machida so the UFC can cut his spoiled a.ss. Then he'll lose his UFC sponsorship (obviously) and Nike sponsorship.

There's always Bellator.
 6 years ago '05        #151
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
A crappy UFC with low buys? are you fu*king serious Shogun Vs Hendo did over 600k this would of done more if Henderson fought, but with Jones and Chaels beef it would of done over 500k
Rough numbers for ufc 151 would be 500-600k
Silva / Sonnen 2 had 1 mill

Lets give sonnen 6months to a year to trash talk jones and hype the f!ght
they will get roughly the same as silva and sonnen again - 1 mill

so ufc cuts their losses with this ppv in the long term
 6 years ago '06        #152
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 Aesop730 said:
LOL @ a f!ghter being the reason that the whole event is canceled . What type of shyt is that? Ok he doesnt want to f!ght, and the show has to go on, but you cant blame Jones for that blame the company ..
What? It's 8 days away and they found someone to f!ght. It's a main event title f!ght, an the champion don't want to f!ght. Im not seeing how it's ufcs fault
 6 years ago '04        #153
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 I'm The Dan said:
You dumb sh*ts are looking at it from a fans perspective. If they "let the show go on" how do they justify that to the people that PAID to see Jones. Let's be honest; more people paid to see Jones than Hendo. That's why they wanted a replacement f!ght, but Jones was too scared to do it. He's a bi*ch and I HOPE he loses to Machida so the UFC can cut his spoiled a.ss. Then he'll lose his UFC sponsorship (obviously) and Nike sponsorship.

There's always Bellator.
You sound like a angry bi*ch made f*ggot
 6 years ago '09        #154
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 zogby said:
Rough numbers for ufc 151 would be 500-600k
Silva / Sonnen 2 had 1 mill

Lets give sonnen 6months to a year to trash talk jones and hype the f!ght
they will get roughly the same as silva and sonnen again - 1 mill

so ufc cuts their losses with this ppv in the long term
Its not all about the UFC or Jones its about the people on the undercard who are making diddly squat, they dont have the luxury to just coast onto the next pay per view card(like jones is gonna) and Sonnen was willing to give up his purse because of this.
 6 years ago '04        #155
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Get this bullsh*t outta here.

fu*k Chael and Dana.

I am proud of Jones on this one.
 6 years ago '04        #156
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 I'm The Dan said:
You dumb sh*ts are looking at it from a fans perspective. If they "let the show go on" how do they justify that to the people that PAID to see Jones. Let's be honest; more people paid to see Jones than Hendo. That's why they wanted a replacement f!ght, but Jones was too scared to do it. He's a bi*ch and I HOPE he loses to Machida so the UFC can cut his spoiled a.ss. Then he'll lose his UFC sponsorship (obviously) and Nike sponsorship.

There's always Bellator.
Yeah Jon Jones is so much a bi*ch that he was undefeated and somehow a guy who is not in his weight division and just lost somehow get a shot in his title. Its not Dana fault that the card was completely sh*t outside of Dan vs Henderson. sh*t even sonnen vs Jon Jones bone would be trash and not even ppv worthy. This is why I hate mma fans. They rather blame the f!ghters instead of Dana white. I bet if Jones was white he wouldn't get all this hate. Really the two most hated people in mma are black.
 6 years ago '05        #157
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 Prodigy said:
You sound like a angry bi*ch made f*ggot
You sound like you still have some nut in your mouth from Jones f*ggot.

 6 years ago '05        #158
HiRolliN 110 heat pts110
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
Its not all about the UFC or Jones its about the people on the undercard who are making diddly squat, they dont have the luxury to just coast onto the next pay per view card(like jones is gonna) and Sonnen was willing to give up his purse because of this.
ya those guys only make like a grand a two being on the under card. those guys got fu*ked over badly in this situation.
 6 years ago '05        #159
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 VictoryThagr8 said:
Yeah Jon Jones is so much a bi*ch that he was undefeated and somehow a guy who is not in his weight division and just lost somehow get a shot in his title. Its not Dana fault that the card was completely sh*t outside of Dan vs Henderson. sh*t even sonnen vs Jon Jones bone would be trash and not even ppv worthy. This is why I hate mma fans. They rather blame the f!ghters instead of Dana white. I bet if Jones was white he wouldn't get all this hate. Really the two most hated people in mma are black.
You're stupid as fu*k. Read the damn article you illiterate piece of sh*t.

Others were offered the f!ght ahead of Chael. THEY turned it down. Chael was one of the few (I read Wiedman accepted as well) that did accept the f!ght.

Plus, Chael is moving up to 205 (f!ghts Forrest in December) so it wasn't that big of a deal.

Go away f*ggot.
 6 years ago '12        #160
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 I'm The Dan said:
You sound like you still have some nut in your mouth from Jones f*ggot.

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