Top 5 all time at every position?

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 08-19-2012, 08:00 PM         #221
ManWithoutFear! 
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 nameless1 said:


only person who has a chance of being in the top 5 that isnt there is AI and it aint a good one for him. not heated if people take drexler over him but thats it
You might could put Wade on a top 10 shooting guard list but Top 5? nah son
 5 years ago '12        #222
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 ManWithoutFear! said:
You might could put Wade on a top 10 shooting guard list but Top 5? nah son
you taking reggie over wade?allen?mitch ritchmond?come on b, come on.wade not only is top 5 in accolades he's top 5 in peak seasons as well. im a knick fan and im saying this
 5 years ago '06        #223
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Top 5 All Time at Every Position

PG:
1. Magic
2. Oscar
3. Stockton
4. Isiah
5. Bob Cousy

SG:
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. West
4. Havlicek
5. Gervin

SF:
1. Bird
2. Lebron
3. Dr J
4. Baylor
5. Pippen

PF:
1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. KG
4. Pettite
5. McHale

C:
1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem


this is the real list....
 5 years ago '07        #224
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 nameless1 said:
mchale was good for 7 years, elite for 4. you have to remember mchale didn't even become a full time starter until 86 and that's when he became elite to me.

kg>barkley and dirk. i have malone over dirk now as well

and
Mchale averaged 18 and 7 off the bench in 84. 18 and 7. Elite then. Elite for seven. Who was better over that seven year span? The Golden Era of the NBA(i.e. the best years of the NBA).
 08-19-2012, 08:05 PM         #225
ManWithoutFear! 
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 nameless1 said:
you taking reggie over wade?allen?mitch ritchmond?come on b, come on.wade not only is top 5 in accolades he's top 5 in peak seasons as well. im a knick fan and im saying this
See, now youre using that noggin' of yours. Reggie Miller, I don't know... Allen Iverson. Jerry West. George Gervin. Hell, and I suppose I WOULD put the Glide over Wade also.
Fuhkit
 5 years ago '12        #226
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 Rated_R_CEO said:
Top 5 All Time at Every Position

PG:
1. Magic
2. Oscar
3. Stockton
4. Isiah
5. Bob Cousy

SG:
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. West
4. Havlicek
5. Gervin

SF:
1. Bird
2. Lebron
3. Dr J
4. Baylor
5. Pippen

PF:
1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. KG
4. Pettite
5. McHale

C:
1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem


this is the real list....
cousy, no. he couldn't dribble with his left hand nor could he shoot. jj red!ck would light him up

gervin is the definition of a one way player. this dude was quoted from a teammate that he'd only play to a certain win total to get a pay bonus and thats it. amazing scorer, amazing finger roll. thats it. havlicek was an SF

Dirk>those last 2. Dirk played at an elite level for longer, not to mention Pettit only played 10 seasons.

SF's and C's no argument

 nxtbigceleb said:
Mchale averaged 18 and 7 off the bench in 84. 18 and 7. Elite then. Elite for seven. Who was better over that seven year span? The Golden Era of the NBA(i.e. the best years of the NBA).
18/7 in 31 mpg is elite?nah, good, not elite. his elite years were 86-90. he broke his foot, bad boy pistons kept stepping on it, never the same. dirk played at a higher level for longer and put up better peak numbers as well
 5 years ago '07        #227
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 Rated_R_CEO said:
Top 5 All Time at Every Position

PG:
1. Magic
2. Oscar
3. Stockton
4. Isiah
5. Bob Cousy

SG:
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. West
4. Havlicek
5. Gervin

SF:
1. Bird
2. Lebron
3. Dr J
4. Baylor
5. Pippen

PF:
1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. KG
4. Pettite
5. McHale

C:
1. Kareem
2. Russell
3. Wilt
4. Shaq
5. Hakeem


this is the real list....
I like alot. Forgot Gervin. Gervin is in that top five for me I think. Tough. Like Pettite. Havliceck is a F in my book. Kidd over Stockton. Willed horrible Nets teams to two straight Finals. Geesh! Kidd is in. Dat chip. Great list though.
 5 years ago '12        #228
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 ManWithoutFear! said:
See, now youre using that noggin' of yours. Reggie Miller, I don't know... Allen Iverson. Jerry West. George Gervin. Hell, and I suppose I WOULD put the Glide over Wade also.
Fuhkit
i already have west over wade, drexler right behind him. iverson 6th. gervin is top 10 but he/miller/richmond/allen were all one way players. wade is the much better playmaker, defender, better rebounder[besides gervin although wade edges him out in nba rebounding totals], more efficient than anyone besides gervin, etc
 5 years ago '12        #229
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 nxtbigceleb said:
I like alot. Forgot Gervin. Gervin is in that top five for me I think. Tough. Like Pettite. Havliceck is a F in my book. Kidd over Stockton. Willed horrible Nets teams to two straight Finals. Geesh! Kidd is in. Dat chip. Great list though.
and he beat horrible teams to get there. you think those nets teams arent getting swept in 4 by 15points+ every time by the stockton/malone jazz?

what does gervin have over wade besides scoring?
 08-19-2012, 08:09 PM         #230
ManWithoutFear! 
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 nameless1 said:
i already have west over wade, drexler right behind him. iverson 6th. gervin is top 10 but he/miller/richmond/allen were all one way players. wade is the much better playmaker, defender, better rebounder[besides gervin although wade edges him out in nba rebounding totals], more efficient than anyone besides gervin, etc
Fair enough. Look, Im not saying Wade wouldnt be on my all time SG list, Im just saying not in my top 5 if I were to make one.
 08-19-2012, 08:09 PM         #231
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i dont think to be in the top spot in your position... doesnt mean you have to win a ring... thats a team effort... so with that being said malone better then dirk barkley under dirk but his kicks make him better



































cheaaaa
 5 years ago '12        #232
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 ManWithoutFear! said:
Fair enough. Look, Im not saying Wade wouldnt be on my all time SG list, Im just saying not in my top 5 if I were to make one.
wade is 5th at worst to me, only thing gervin has over wade is scoring. allen/richmond/miller 3 point shooting
 Bangladesh said:
i dont think to be in the top spot in your position... doesnt mean you have to win a ring... thats a team effort... so with that being said malone better then dirk barkley under dirk but his kicks make him better cheaaaa
i put malone above dirk now, and i need to get some barkley heat
 5 years ago '07        #233
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 UF4Soldier said:
wade made who better? he just lucked up and got to play with shaq and then got lebron to come play with him wade played ok n 011 but he didnt play to his best ability either him and lebron played like crap n those 4th quarters just by default the ball had to go in the basket for one of them and it was wade .......he played nothin like the k!lled dwade in 06 and previous seasons .......lebron gets the blame kus he didnt do anything at all !
wow

with logic like this, we can all just dismiss AI's entire career and say he shot so much the ball had to go in SOME of those times
 5 years ago '07        #234
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 nameless1 said:


18/7 in 31 mpg is elite?nah, good, not elite. his elite years were 86-90. he broke his foot, bad boy pistons kept stepping on it, never the same. dirk played at a higher level for longer and put up better peak numbers as well
22 and 9 in 84 in the playoffs. Thats what separates Dirk and Mchale. Mchale was a PTPer. Always. Bird's no. 1 road dog. He was the second best player on the second best team in the league for 7 years. Mchale over Dirk for overall playoff performances. No. 1 player on a perennial playoff loser for a decade or a "Robin" on a dynasty? 5 Finals apps. 3 rings.
 5 years ago '12        #235
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 nxtbigceleb said:
22 and 9 in 84 in the playoffs. Thats what separates Dirk and Mchale. Mchale was a PTPer. Always. Bird's no. 1 road dog. He was the second best player on the second best team in the league for 7 years. Mchale over Dirk for overall playoff performances. No. 1 player on a perennial playoff loser for a decade or a "Robin" on a dynasty? 5 Finals apps. 3 rings.
Dirk career 26/10/3 on 46% and 38% from 3
Championship run 28/8/3 on 49% and 46% from 3

mchale career in the playoffs 19/7/2 on 56%

And McHale wasn't the 2nd best player for one of their titles Hell Bird didn't even win the FMVP[although he should have] that year.
 5 years ago '07        #236
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Great debate. The fact that your a TMac fan and he is your favorite player of all time makes this conversation seem hollow. TMac? If you love Tmac, you must love Tony Romo, Anna Kournikova, Lolo Jones, Danica Patrick and the Grinch. And of course his drum major cousin VC. Losers. You seem intelligent. Disassociate yourself from Tracy McGrady of Mt. Zion Academy(?), Durham, NC.
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 nxtbigceleb said:
Great debate. The fact that your a TMac fan and he is your favorite player of all time makes this conversation seem hollow. TMac? If you love Tmac, you must love Tony Romo, Anna Kournikova, Lolo Jones, Danica Patrick and the Grinch. And of course his drum major cousin VC. Losers. You seem intelligent. Disassociate yourself from Tracy McGrady of Mt. Zion Academy(?), Durham, NC.


I have an intelligent debate with you, and you attack my choice of a favorite player. I've been sh*tting on T-Mac this entire thread, in case you haven't noticed though.
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