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 6 years ago '12        #201
King Jaffe Joe 29 heat pts29 OP
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 UF4Soldier said:
so no injuries

kobe
t-mac
jordan
ai
wade! /thread!
switch jordan and kobe and wade and AI and there you go

taking away efficiency, rebounding, etc, Wade was always the better on ball defender and obviously blocked more shots. AI was amazing at playing the passing lanes, that's about it
 6 years ago '04        #202
UF4Soldier 132 heat pts132
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i dont think its with out rights to be adding judging and guy from 50s 60s and putting them in out top ten that old slow era doesnt even compare to the late 70s and 80s and 90s all them players would pretty much get they a.sses handed to them by 80s 90 and 2000s players by default ......we just honor those guys for paving tha way but .....its not with our right to judge the game and skills kus i watch that old sh*t and i know even i could k!ll some of them dudes no cross overs no speedy 1st steps its wonder how they even got dunks back then !
 6 years ago '12        #203
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 UF4Soldier said:
i dont think its with out rights to be adding judging and guy from 50s 60s and putting them in out top ten that old slow era doesnt even compare to the late 70s and 80s and 90s all them players would pretty much get they a.sses handed to them by 80s 90 and 2000s players by default ......we just honor those guys for paving tha way but .....its not with our right to judge the game and skills kus i watch that old sh*t and i know even i could k!ll some of them dudes no cross overs no speedy 1st steps its wonder how they even got dunks back then !
i agree for about 95% of the people in that era, but oscar/west/wilt are balling today. their production drops but they'll still all be superstars
 6 years ago '04        #204
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 nameless1 said:
switch jordan and kobe and wade and AI and there you go

taking away efficiency, rebounding, etc, Wade was always the better on ball defender and obviously blocked more shots. AI was amazing at playing the passing lanes, that's about it
oh dat wasnt a order

jordan
t-mac
kobe
ai
wade....

drexler
miller
ray ray
west
insert who ever !
 6 years ago '12        #205
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 UF4Soldier said:
oh dat wasnt a order

jordan
t-mac
kobe
ai
wade....

drexler
miller
ray ray
west
insert who ever !
west>AI in their peaks. he was shooting 3's before there were 3's like nothing, was a much better rebounder than AI nd he was 6'2, higher APG than AI in the playoffs and regular season, 27-30 ppg throughout his career, better efficiency, made 4 all defensive teams[out of 5 tries], 2.6 SPG, etc.
 6 years ago '06        #206
xFMx ALCHEMiST 262 heat pts262
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 UF4Soldier said:
oh dat wasnt a order

jordan
t-mac
kobe
ai
wade....

drexler
miller
ray ray
west
insert who ever !


most kobe stans dont even know who Tmac was
 6 years ago '12        #207
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 adulel08 said:


most kobe stans dont even know who Tmac was
shame he was as lazy as fu*k, t mac is my favorite player ever and it hurts for me to say that
 6 years ago '06        #208
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he played his a.ss off in the playoffs but couldnt win..
 6 years ago '04        #209
UF4Soldier 132 heat pts132
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im sure he was good but im not one to say he was this or that i will never watch him play or go by pre 3 point line stats it easy to shoot a three when they arent worth three points trust me i know......

but the list is good for a top 5 alltime

ai is top ten sg ever easy top 5 to me! his size plays a big role in that

to be able to do almost everything they could do but not be as big or tall ...even if he could guard on the ball what sg wasnt gonna just post him up?
 6 years ago '04        #210
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 nameless1 said:
shame he was as lazy as fu*k, t mac is my favorite player ever and it hurts for me to say that
more injury prone then lazy to me he got lazy after he got hurt a few times!
 6 years ago '04        #211
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 nameless1 said:
and he was only elite for 4 years. dirk was for 11 and counting

miller was a 1 way player

and T-Macs playmaking was better than carters. his ballhandling was also sick for someone 6'8

i think you selling mchale a lil short on his elite years, imo dude had 7 with a debateable 8th top notch years, not to mention dude played with bird and parrish and that causes his numbers to be a lil lower, if dude was a #1 option his whole career you could add 5-6 ppg and 3-4 rpg more on his career stats

i kinda sold dirk a lil short and updated my pf list but i still like barkley, malone, duncan better then him

great thread by the way
 6 years ago '12        #212
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 kb2602 said:
i think you selling mchale a lil short on his elite years, imo dude had 7 with a debateable 8th top notch years, not to mention dude played with bird and parrish and that causes his numbers to be a lil lower, if dude was a #1 option his whole career you could add 5-6 ppg and 3-4 rpg more on his career stats

i kinda sold dirk a lil short and updated my pf list but i still like barkley, malone, duncan better then him

great thread by the way
mchale was good for 7 years, elite for 4. you have to remember mchale didn't even become a full time starter until 86 and that's when he became elite to me.

kg>barkley and dirk. i have malone over dirk now as well

and
 6 years ago '12        #213
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 UF4Soldier said:
im sure he was good but im not one to say he was this or that i will never watch him play or go by pre 3 point line stats it easy to shoot a three when they arent worth three points trust me i know......

but the list is good for a top 5 alltime

ai is top ten sg ever easy top 5 to me! his size plays a big role in that

to be able to do almost everything they could do but not be as big or tall ...even if he could guard on the ball what sg wasnt gonna just post him up?
watch some tape if you ever get the time, dudes were still playing him heavy. ai is easy top 10 no doubt, top 5?nah still can't agree with that, 6th to me
 UF4Soldier said:
more injury prone then lazy to me he got lazy after he got hurt a few times!
both, when he stopped getting injured he was only about 29, he could have easily worked his way back to at least his years in houston. instead hes a scrub
 6 years ago '10        #214
Trill Livin 69 heat pts69
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the fu*k going on in here
 6 years ago '12        #215
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 Trill Livin said:
the fu*k going on in here
basketball debates
or for the past 4 pages iverson vs wade
 08-19-2012, 06:57 PM         #216
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that shooting guard list look mad suspect! lol
fuhk is Wade and Drexler doing on that sh*t son?
 08-19-2012, 06:57 PM         #217
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 MichaelKnight said:
KG is not a top 5 PF...
top 10 yes
 6 years ago '12        #218
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 ManWithoutFear! said:
that shooting guard list look mad suspect! lol


only person who has a chance of being in the top 5 that isnt there is AI and it aint a good one for him. not heated if people take drexler over him but thats it
 6 years ago '06        #219
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Why do u have Dr J on that list and not Pippen tho
 6 years ago '12        #220
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 frequent23 said:
Why do u have Dr J on that list and not Pippen tho
check under dr j's name
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