Kanye West Say He Didn't Physically Write His Lyrics For First Four Albums

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 5 years ago '11        #61
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Meh, how hard is it to learn the song yo ghostwriters already recorded? Dr Dre don't write either yell™
 5 years ago '11        #62
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I think wayne stop writing shyt down too......
this won't end well.
As far as who write what....Anybody can write rhymes...but can you make hits--
hooks, vocalist ad libs, song structure. kanye do his thing whether somebody else writing or makin the beat.


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 08-16-2012, 05:19 AM         #63
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Jay and these other dudes who don't physically write lyrics down aren't telling you they basically come up with something, go in the booth and spit it, then tell the engineer to stop recording. Think up the next line, then tell the engineer to play back the line they just spit and then add on. Basically building a track live on the spot. It's the same as writing it's just not put on paper. Jay's done it for so long taking the lesson he learned from Biggie and gotten to where he can memorize stuff and go more bars than most people without having the engineer pause, so that's skill, but it's still the same principal. It's still writing, it's just not on paper/phone/etc.

I used to do this sh*t all the time fu*king around with my garbage songs when I was younger.
 08-16-2012, 05:33 AM         #64
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 Gm0ney85 said:
...biting... ITS FUNDAMENTAL!!

just dont bite like an average wack n*gga.. bite with taste
"The only art I'll ever study is stuff that I can steal from" - David Bowie

"Start copying what you love. Copy copy copy copy. At the end of the copy you will find your self" - Yohji Yamamoto

"No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun, it's not what you do but how it's done." - Nasir Jones

Threw in that little obvious Nas quote because of the whole ghostwriter/Nas controversy
 5 years ago '07        #65
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Don't get me wrong, Kanye is my dude and I'm one of his biggest fans but even I know he got at least 2-3 ghost writers.

It's his thoughts and he guides the writing but he don't actually come up wit his lines. When he does, it's pretty corny. Songs like "See me now" that came out last summer I can believe he wrote. The writing was simple and corny.

But songs like "All falls down", "Dark Fantasy", "Drive Slow" and "Big Brother", I can tell he had ghost writers either help him out (a lot) or they write the whole song. Keep it 100, Ye.



Also, I seen footage of him in the studio wit his ghost writers helping him out. You can find it somewhere on Youtube. I still think he's a great artist overall and a creative genius but he just don't possess the writing skill of a great rapper and I'm actually glad he got a team of ghost writers to help him cause his writing can get pretty wack.


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 5 years ago '10        #66
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 08-16-2012, 06:24 AM         #67
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Oh sh*t, I found the first song I ever recorded where I didn't write anything down, but kept saying a line, stopping, then starting it back up and adding on (remembered it when I wrote one of my posts in the thread.) But yo... this sh*t is so wack, nerdy and random, I'm dying It's a song called "Cosmonaut Shuffle" and sounds like a rejected Beastie Boys song about popular fictional space characters Yeah, exactly.

I gotta share these lyrics, the rhyme pattern is so weird, there's like a pause after each line so it reads disjointed as fu*k, but this sh*t is comical:

I woke up this morning, no money in my pocket,
in a rocket to rob Spacely's Sprockets
He's been bi*chin' for months,
while I'm on auto-pilot I rolled me a blunt of that...
...Astro Kush... good look,
Judy Jetson stashed it in her bush...
Smokin' up with Elroy,
reminiscin' how I beat down Leonard Nimoy
Gettin' drunk with Han Solo,
chillin, got two blasters stuffed into my Polo,
Suckin' on a Life Saver,
I need to light my cig so I use a light saber,
Man this sh*t is gettin' major,
I'll tell ya later how I owe money to Darth Vader,
As the galaxy is partin,
I sweep the ship equipped with the head of Marvin the Martian,
Beating Chewie at some Frogger,
all the while trying to duck the Duck Dodgers,
Seems my luck is fu*ked,
I'm gettin dipped in carbonite for Jabba the Hutt
fu*k

(chorus)
It seems everyday that I'm lost in space,
New face, old place, Old Face, new place
x4

Without a doubt I'm gettin' thawed out,
time to roll the fu*k out and set up a new route
Aided on my getaway by Lando Calrissian
with two blasters to blow bastards into oblivion,
Knocked Luke the fu*k out – stole his X-Wing,
throw into hyperspace – off to Ganymede,
Like a stampede asteroids steadily flew by
as I spot the Bebop in the corner of my eye
– No lie, landed on the ship just to shoot the sh*t,
as always Ed and Ein was on some bullsh*t,
Chillin' grubbing out with Jet and Spike Spiegel,
here comes my girl she just landed in her vehicle,
It might cross the line but fresh on my mind
is how I wanna dig down Faye Valentine,
She walked down the hall, "Why didn't ya call?"
Shut the fu*k up and suck on my Space Balls



*Then no lie, the beat drops to a low volume while a sample of a bi*ch sucking d!ck plays
All the while with my corny a.ss saying, "Yeah... over to the left there... yeaaahhh.... damn girl, where you been?"

(chorus comes back)

Lift off – I got this, Faye up in the c*ckpit,
"Yo, you got some left there from my c*ck spit"

*Then quite possibly the greatest William Shatner/Captain Kirk impression I've ever done with an effect to make it sound like a radio transmission plays saying,
"Excuse Me... I... seem... to have... lost... my wallet."

–Aw snap, that's Captain Kirk,
here baby girl hide his wallet in your mini-skirt,
Spoken like a true playa,
that's when I got a text coming in from Princess Leia,
She need a favor – tired of goin Solo,
I said do you need it? She said, "Oh for sho doe"
So I handle my business,
that's when I witness a ship in the distance,
No coexistence – Vader's back again to wipe me from existence,
with persistence, laser guided rockets, display my resistance,
This ain't getting very far,
so I blast my secret weapon *explosion sound* just like the death Star,
Fire up that cigar...
See you Space Cowboy I be chillin' in the nearest bar.


WOW. Corny sh*t. But fu*k it, I was like 17 trying to rap. The beat is surprisingly fresh as fu*k though.
 5 years ago '10        #68
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 Philly B said:
5,000 hours for Power


oopps kanye is still recording POWER


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 5 years ago '07        #69
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Am I the only one that heard him say WE spent 5000 hrs writing power? Who's We? Ill give y'all a hint YUUCCK!


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 5 years ago '07        #70
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 5 years ago '06        #71
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 Everest said:
to all of my fellow musicians out there...seasoned musicians....we know that writing in your head is not that difficult....with a studio at hand....just put the beat on repeat and you can come up with a 16 or 32 bar verse in 30 minutes.....sometimes writing with head is easier and allows more creativity....
AINT THAT THE TRUTH ...
 5 years ago '05        #72
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If you can do it better than me, then you do it.
 08-16-2012, 07:56 AM         #73
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 Rich x Pride said:
damn homie , you need a father figure
Why because 10 years ago I made a corny rap song?


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At least I'm willing to admit that sh*t was wack. I got a sense of humor about it though, ain't sh*t to me.
 5 years ago '12        #74
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 daliff89 said:
The bad part is he was a much better rapper on his first three albums than on his recent sh*t..
 08-16-2012, 08:14 AM         #75
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 Avon_Barksdale said:
I disagree, his first 3 album were filled with words that dont exist and sayings that didn't make sense. His last album lyrically was probably the most solid effort in regards to a lyrical offering.
 5 years ago '04        #76
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he didn't write it down because i did them
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thats what you meant right yeah yeah.. i wish my ghost writer would
 08-16-2012, 08:29 AM         #77
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Whatever. He was a better rapper back then anyway.
 5 years ago '12        #78
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Who gives a fu*k. n*ggas are weird a.ss hell these days. Whats wrong with writing lyrics?
 08-16-2012, 08:51 AM         #79
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if you know Consequence's rap style you can hear it all in much of Kanye's raps. hell naw he didn't write his albums... at least some of his sh*t.

to be honest, even since Kanye came out and said he didn't produce "Down" by Cam after he had taken credit for the longest, I have been violently suspicious of everything that n*gga puts out. you don't do that sh*t.


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 5 years ago '05        #80
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His written raps is trash. Dude actually had substance back in the College Dropout and Late Registration days - maybe he should spit what's in his heart more often.
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