Out of these 4 Classics , Which one has aged the best ??

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Which one still sounds fresh ??
Illmatic 100 33.11%
Ready to Die 50 16.56%
Me Against The World 68 22.52%
Reasonable Doubt 84 27.81%
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 5 years ago '04        #101
Rae 
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Agreed illmatic has that early 90s flow blended in with sum new aged stuff...pac flow can go good with any generation and rd came thru when hiphop was becoming a new age now if we put it was written in the conv that to me was the break of new age hiphop

1.rd
2.me agan.....
3.ill
4.big
Thats based of this thread but it was written created RD


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 5 years ago '09        #102
TriniSoldier 64 heat pts64
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Ready to Die
Reasonable Doubt
Illmatic



Me against the world
 5 years ago '06        #103
Menelek 5 heat pts
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 psylence2k said:
I love how the poll never reflects the responses in these type of threads, barely anyone has stated Illmatic first but it's tied in the lead with RD right now.
You Aint Lie. Illmatic Got this sh*t.
 5 years ago '06        #104
Menelek 5 heat pts
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 r.burgundy said:
memory lane and 1 time for your mind are wack beats,and weak tracks in general.especially in 2012.illmatic is damn near ep status as oppose to lp
Every beat is Dope on that sh*t. memory lane is a weak track? GTFO. One time for your Mind isnt a weak track its just the weakest song on a flawless album. Nas was k!llin the slow Flow
 5 years ago '09        #105
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MATW... Most people know that RTD was a carbon copy of what MATW was supposed to be. Depending on how old you are, this will always be about Big vs Pac and Nas vs Jay.
 5 years ago '09        #106
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 r.burgundy said:
memory lane and 1 time for your mind are wack beats,and weak tracks in general.especially in 2012.illmatic is damn near ep status as oppose to lp
Memory Lane beat is wack? the tracks are weak in general? n*gga that's the best song on the album imo next to Aint hard to tell


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 5 years ago '09        #107
BrooklynStiles 82 heat pts82
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Their all classics (except pac's album) so this is just splitting hairs:

reasonable doubt's "ain't no n*gga" aged badly.

in illmatic, young nas's use of '94's slang and his boom bap dated the album.

ready to die's hardcore rap style was hot in 1994's gangster rap world but that was a fad that died out by the early 00's.
 08-16-2012, 12:27 AM         #108
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 5 years ago '10        #109
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36 chambers!
 5 years ago '06        #110
RAZAH CUTS 5835 heat pts5835
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Illmatic or Reasonable Doubt...
 08-16-2012, 01:29 AM         #111
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Illmatic - Samples so much funk, soul, and jazz that it sounds outdated by any standards. One of the samples (Thief of Baghdad on Represent) even dates from 1924. Still the greatest rap album of all time, but definitely doesn't sound "modern" production-wise. Nas's lyrics were cutting edge at the time and 18 years later, despite the outdated slang and references, remain of a caliber that most rappers could only dream of achieving.

Reasonable Doubt - Another sample heavy record, Reasonable Doubt uses samples a bit more sparingly than Illmatic and in ways that don't sound "retro" by today's standards, perhaps due to sampling music that is a little more recent (Eric B.&Rakim, Nas, ODB, LL, Tribe Called Quest, etc). Jay's lyricism, while top-notch, is definitely firmly planted in the '90s, alongside other 'mafioso' classics such as Built 4 Cuban Linx. Even Nas's recent release Life is Good seems to be closer in style to Reasonable Doubt than Illmatic.

Ready to Die - In terms of sampling, somewhere in between the modernity of Reasonable Doubt and the antiquity of Illmatic. Modern samples (Snoop, Onyx, Gang Starr) are used alongside retro jazz and funk samples (Mtune, Miles Davis, Isaac Hayes). B.I.G.'s storytelling harkens back to a bevy of NYC artists from the '80s such as Slick Rick, BDP, and Kool G Rap.

Me Against the World - Due to Easy Mo Bee, who also had a big hand in Ready to Die's production, this record is heavy on the Funk samples, however, it lacks the modern samples of Reasonable Doubt and Ready to Die. Due to prodigal mixing engineers, Paul Arnold in particular (who would later go on to mix Christina Aguilera's first hit single), this album actually "sounds" very modern despite the retro samples. Pac DEFINED the culture of the '90s with his lyrics, even more so than Nas/Jay/B.I.G., and he will forever be a.ssociated with the decade.

Ranked (in terms of being the most 'modern' sounding)

1. Reasonable Doubt
2. Me Against the World
3. Ready to Die
4. Illmatic
 08-16-2012, 02:05 AM         #112
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i don't understand how anyone can say illmatic.. it sounds old as fu*k.. it's dope.. but it has an old sound to it.. reasonable doubt aged the best.. production is the best measure of how well rap music has "aged" imo.. and reasonable doubts sounds the most modern..

1. Reasonable Doubt
2. Me Against the World
3. Ready to Die
4. Illmatic
 5 years ago '10        #113
GriffMcfly 22 heat pts22
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Pac always sounded dated to me after 2000, I love big but ready to die was one of those albums I played every now and then and only a few songs but Between Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt its a tie I can listen to both of those albums without skipping a song
 08-16-2012, 04:24 AM         #114
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"Reasonable Doubt"

Barely feels/sounds dated at all...

The other 3 feel definatively like mid 90's Hip Hop.
 08-16-2012, 04:37 AM         #115
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Illmatic, Me against the World, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (Had to throw that one there), Ready to Die, Reasonable Doubt
 5 years ago '05        #116
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 Dee352 said:
everybody is saying Reasonable Doubt but Illmatic is in the lead
Thats because NAs has about 100 accounts on bx
 5 years ago '10        #117
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illmatic still gets rotated weekly and MATW 2nd
 08-16-2012, 08:29 AM         #118
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Well considering how many songs from each album I consider CLASSIC or BANGERS!

NAS - (*illmatic*) = (3)
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LIFES A bi*ch
MEMORY LANE (SITTIN IN DA PARK)
IT AINT HARD TO TELL

plenty other songs worth listening to though
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2PAC - (*me against the world*) = (6)
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ME AGAINST THE WORLD
SO MANY TEARS
TEMPTATIONS
LORD KNOWS
DEAR MAMA
death AROUND THE CORNER


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JAY-Z - (*reasonable doubt*) = (6)
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CANT KNOCK THE HUSTLE
POLITICS AS USUAL
BROOKLYNS FINEST
DEAD PRESIDENTS 2
D-EVILS
CAN I LIVE

& NO I didnt like (*aint no n*gga*) .. (lol)



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NOTORIOUS B.I.G - (*ready to die*) = (5)
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WARNING
THE WHAT
JUICY
EVERYDAY STRUGGLE
BIG POPPA

plenty of other songs worth listening to on this album also



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For AGED THE BEST I will go with a (*tie*) between ... ME AGAINST THE WORLD & ILLMATIC

For over all When it was RELEASED & still to this DAY

I will go with #1 ME AGAINST THE WORLD & ... #2 (*tie*) between ILLMATIC & REASONABLE DOUBT
 5 years ago '06        #119
LYTE 125 heat pts125
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 Monoblock said:

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For me it's Reasonable Doubt and Me Against The World.
Excellent choice esp pac. Pac usually makes timeless music.
Nas illmatic is decent too as far as aging
RTD sounds TOTALLY outdate.
Biggie is talking about Pathfinders/Landcruisers
 5 years ago '04        #120
zhiggeman 4 heat pts
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thats not a legit comparsion tho.. if you pull 9 tracks off all those albums and put them against illmatic then yeah we can pick.. maybe we should do that instead..
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