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 5 years ago '08        #61
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 Graftedgenes said:
Why the obsession with Platinum? Insane Clown Possee, Chingy & Soulja Boy can brag about going Platinum but Rakim, Roots & Common can't so what's the big deal about platinum in an era when 99% of rappers don't even go Gold.


It's insanity to hear people in 2012 talk about Platinum like this is 2003, only 3 rap artists went platinum in 2011 (Wayne, Drake, Jay/Kanye), no rap artists have gone platinum in 2012.



Out of all the HipHop albums released post 2007 only 7 artists have gone Platinum and about 15 Gold so it's narrowed down to 5 Gold or Platinum plaques a year total.


7 artists and two of them ain't Afrikan-American & one of them is a female so that leaves you with 4 bruthas from the culture going Platinum (JayZ, T.I, Wayne, Kanye).


Gold is the new platinum.

He isn't a BIG NAME RAPPER AND NEVER WAS A BIG NAME RAPPER, so many new rappers
have come out and become big name rappers since his debut, THEY HAVE GONE PLATINUM
and he hasn't still?, what is up?

Why the whole Plat talk??? well in this business these rappers want their work
to be heard and supported right?....well going Platinum certifieds that, selling MILLIONS OF RECORDS IS THE STANDARD for the big names to, he has never done that with many albums
out already.

Son TONY fu*kING YAYO IS PLATINUM off the 50 CENT buzz right?, ok then why JAY Z
Bringin out Ross did'nt have that kind of efffect?, last time I checked JAY Z IS HUGE MEGA
SELLING STAR, brings out Rhianna and SHE SELLS CRAZY NUMBERS, she a huge name THAT HAS GONE PLATINUM.


Again it all goes back to HIM AS A PERSON, THE MASSES KNOW HE FAKE and they will not
support him, he isn't Genuine HE BEEN FAKING from the Jump and once that got exposed
it was over, he would never be a big name rapper, most rappers want to be remembered
you really think this guy is going to be remembered like BIGGIE,2PAC,JAY Z,NAS,EM, Snoop, on and on? NEVER.


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 5 years ago '04        #62
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common and the roots never had mtv, bet, 6 out of the 7 artists that gone platinum since 2007, and 3 labels backing them up AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

got all of that going for you on top of having one artist going gold. you mean to tell me that ross can't go platinum this time?
 5 years ago '08        #63
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 Athavan 789 said:
its just that rick ross is supposed to be the hottest artist out and he cant go platinum, jus doesnt make sense....
EXACTLY, people need to check the real world view of this guy not the way he is sold online

millions of videos online, tons of mixtapes buzz but in real life they mean nothing to nobody.


Have Jay z drop a mixtape at midnight AT bEST BUY, people would be there Yesterday,
nobody would be sleeping outside the stores for this Rozay guy, the masses don't even know who he is and if they did they would right away have BIGGIE in their minds, "oh look a Biggie wannabe type rapper",

THAT is another aspect that fu*ks this guys status to, nobody wants to support that.
 5 years ago '04        #64
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 SugaHillRomello said:
Nicki couldn't
nicki probably will be in a year. she is gold right now after being out for 3 months.

i'm not saying to get platinum over night. just get there
 06-27-2012, 10:56 AM         #65
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 justinjones said:
then why the hell did we held 5 mics/xxl to such a high standard a few years ago?
A few years ago? The Source, as the most renowned hip hop publication on the planet, flatlined alot longer than a few years ago. An XXL rating never had remotely close to the same impact as 5 mics. Rappers use to actually use a 5 mic rating as a accolade to brag about in their music. You mean to me this died only a few years ago? As a black man, you're gonna tell me that you and your circle used hip hop ratings to critique hip hop albums as little as a few years ago?
 5 years ago '08        #66
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 justinjones said:
common and the roots never had mtv, bet, 6 out of the 7 artists that gone platinum since 2007, and 3 labels backing them up AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

got all of that going for you on top of having one artist going gold. you mean to tell me that ross can't go platinum this time?
Def Jam label heads have been saying that for years now, they have to be like

yo what the fu*k Jay z cosigned your a.ss and still can go Plat?


They can't wait until his deal is over, is this his last album with Def Jam????
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 JayDee11 said:
A few years ago? The Source, as the most renowned hip hop publication on the planet, flatlined alot longer than a few years ago. An XXL rating never had remotely close to the same impact as 5 mics. Rappers use to actually use a 5 mic rating as a accolade to brag about in their music. You mean to me this died only a few years ago? As a black man, you're gonna tell me that you and your circle used hip hop ratings to critique hip hop albums as little as a few years ago?
i'm telling you as a black man that we used to give a sh!t.
 5 years ago '10        #68
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 SugaHillRomello said:
All u had to type is that Ross doesn't have white folks on his side. You can only sell but so much of ANYTHING in the U.S. if African Americans are your primary demographic.


Nicki
Wayne
Kanye
Jay
Em


All have established white fanbases. Its not a bad thing necessarily, Ross is just showing that u don't HAVE TO sell a million records to be successful, and u don't HAVE TO cater ur music to whites in order to get a release date. Ain't but 5 rappers who could outsell Ross right now. That ain't bad
jay-z, nas, 50, jeezy etc. have all made albums that weren't directed at white fanbases and still managed to go platinum/multiplat
 06-27-2012, 11:03 AM         #69
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 justinjones said:
common and the roots never had mtv, bet, 6 out of the 7 artists that gone platinum since 2007, and 3 labels backing them up AT THE SAME DAMN TIME

got all of that going for you on top of having one artist going gold. you mean to tell me that ross can't go platinum this time?
Common & the Roots never had MTV & BET?


Conversation over buddy you can't troll me.
 06-27-2012, 11:05 AM         #70
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 The N said:
You think the labels give a fu*k if a bootlegged version of their big budget projects is

being pumped in the BBQ on BBS parties?,

they want to see their project

reach the masses GO WORLDWIDE, Robert Williams has issues being a LOCAL artists selling

he will never be GLOBAL
Where in my post did I mention a label? I was speaking about the everyday black hip hop listener. You think they let hip hop ratings, from publication that don't have a shread of the impact they once had, determine the quality of music when social events, their own vehicles as well as internet access is readily available? You guys are letting a vendetta cause asinine arguments to be made.
 5 years ago '04        #71
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 Graftedgenes said:
Common & the Roots never had MTV & BET?


Conversation over buddy you can't troll me.
you think they had them to this degree?
 5 years ago '05        #72
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I'ma Buy Just To See If The streets Like It....Cuz Self Made 2<<<<<<<<CTE Cold Summer
 06-27-2012, 11:10 AM         #73
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 SugaHillRomello said:
All u had to type is that Ross doesn't have white folks on his side. You can only sell but so much of ANYTHING in the U.S. if African Americans are your primary demographic.


Nicki
Wayne
Kanye
Jay
Em


All have established white fanbases. Its not a bad thing necessarily, Ross is just showing that u don't HAVE TO sell a million records to be successful, and u don't HAVE TO cater ur music to whites in order to get a release date. Ain't but 5 rappers who could outsell Ross right now. That ain't bad
I'd rather Ross go Gold and continue to cater his music for us instead of going the JayZ route or doing songs with Justin Timberlake & Emenim.


Poor Nicki Minaj had the Emenim song/single and went Plat but now look at her, T.I. gonna cater to them with his Emenim collabs, Kanye so effeminate he already got their love and Wayne is a genius with his bamboozle to get their support.


At the end of the day the outsiders just want to feel like they can be a part of the movement and they go insane when they feel left out.
 5 years ago '04        #74
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this whole ross thing is turning into lebron without a ring. you can't have all of this and not go platinum ever. it makes no sense. if everybody messes with your music that much they can go and get it. there were too many black people on twitter posting pictures with their c4 album to say that they can't

there are even white people covering rick ross's songs now.

we all like your music. we just won't drop the 12 dollars for ya
 5 years ago '10        #75
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Ross made stay schemin the first official single, stans need to gtfo with that bull ish

it flopped
 5 years ago '04        #76
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and yet the last album didn't even go gold.
if this album don't sale = Hov is Ova
 06-27-2012, 12:18 PM         #77
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selfmade 2 not pushing 60,000
GFID will sell 95,000
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 SugaHillRomello said:
Different era.

50 cant go plat again

Nas Can't

Jeezy can't


Ross will probably outsell all 3 of them this year
you do realize tm103 went gold in a month right
 06-27-2012, 12:41 PM         #79
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 justinjones said:
this whole ross thing is turning into lebron without a ring. you can't have all of this and not go platinum ever. it makes no sense. if everybody messes with your music that much they can go and get it. there were too many black people on twitter posting pictures with their c4 album to say that they can't

there are even white people covering rick ross's songs now.

we all like your music. we just won't drop the 12 dollars for ya
Sports and music are not the same, competitive athletes are judged on Champioships, recording artists are not judged on platinum plaques.


Could you imagine some Super-Geek talking about Wiz Khalifah didn't go platinum with "Rolling Papers" and how that effects his legacy? Hell no.


Platinum is YOUR validation because it's your only connection to the music and the only thing Vanilla Ice has over Rakim.
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 Graftedgenes said:
Sports and music are not the same, competitive athletes are judged on Champioships, recording artists are not judged on platinum plaques.


Could you imagine some Super-Geek talking about Wiz Khalifah didn't go platinum with "Rolling Papers" and how that effects his legacy? Hell no.


Platinum is YOUR validation because it's your only connection to the music and the only thing Vanilla Ice has over Rakim.
my validation to what? im just saying has there ever been a rapper that has this much publicity, notoriety, popularity and everything else that hasn't gone platinum ever. its ridiculous to me
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