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 6 years ago '05        #121
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 Nautilus O said:
Yea Pac was so smart he stomped a n*gga out at the casino, and played catch with some bullets soon after, get off that n*gga d!ck. Its easy to be a tough guy on tracks and when you beating on,a n*gga 10 on 1. But Pac's track record with dealing with real n*ggas is 0-2 with a permanent TKO. Yall doing all this d!ckriding for Pac and aint nobody shouting out Orlando for putting a pus*y in his place


If 50 got stomped out like that and nobody caught a bullet, yall would be calling him fake. Orlando Anderson laid that n*gga down for the sucker sh*t he pulled.
It's also easy to be an online gangster as yourself when you're talking tough over your computer in the suburbs. You wouldn't even dare run a yellow light.

I want to see you:
1)Shoot 2 officers
2)Stomp out a gangbanger
3)Have a shootout with gangbangers
4)Call out extortionists and robbers

Let everyone know about how much stripes you have and how you deal with "real n*ggaz". Let everyone know how much you're about "that life". Rundown your rap sheet for us so we can know how much of a "real n*gga" judge you are.
 6 years ago '07        #122
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 teekarow said:
2. How do yall feel about the picture of Kurupt chilling with Biggie in the studio for Big's listening session for L.A.D? That picture really messed me up. I could not believe that photo. Had me thinking we all were played a bit. I guess that happened after the death of Pac though, but it was not long after.
Anyone got this pic?
 6 years ago '05        #123
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 r.burgundy said:
so your sayin he snitched by accident,and because it was an accident ,it doesnt count

cause certain dudes,they just wanna put in jail
It's not snitching nor was it ever meant to be. It's you 2Pac haters trying to put a spin on it and you BIG/NY stans trying to do some damage control while trying to a.ssassinate the man's character. The song was a brave move something no rapper in the NY industry would have dared done at the time. The problem is you have no grasp of the person Pac was. This was the same man who dissed these same people in the Daily News. He didn't fear anything. That's what you need to understand.
 6 years ago '06        #124
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I came across this lil video and it's pretty interesting. It even contains footage of Jimmy Henchmen talking about the pac robbery. ANd also pac says out of his own mouth that Big told him to quit hanging with Jack and em at the 8:16 mark of the video. I'm not taking sides. I thing big was the best and pac is a beast also.

I feel its safe to say that these cats are rappers and that's it. Big wasn't no frank white and Pac wasn't no thug like he portrayed. It's dudes out here that's really on that gangsta sh*t. Big and Pac weren't bout that life forreal man.


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 6 years ago '07        #125
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 4REAL said:
It's not snitching nor was it ever meant to be. It's you 2Pac haters trying to put a spin on it and you BIG/NY stans trying to do some damage control while trying to a.ssassinate the man's character. The song was a brave move something no rapper in the NY industry would have dared done at the time. The problem is you have no grasp of the person Pac was. This was the same man who dissed these same people in the Daily News. He didn't fear anything. That's what you need to understand.
doesnt matter what it was meant to be.it matters what is.fact is,his song got a dude sittin in a cell for life.im sure if u ask him about tha song,he would feel alot differently from u

if he didnt fear anything,he woulda neva left ny.people like u act like u knew this dude personally or even knows somebody who knew him.sh*t is comedy.i go off facts,not opinion.fact is,his song got king tut sittin in a cell.bottom line is thats tha definition of a snitch
 6 years ago '09        #126
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 BackBlock_OG said:
You're a funny dude homie. I noticed you completely ignored my whole point like most Pac stans. You said you want proof Tut, Jimmy, and Puff were investigated after that song? Here you go:



You happy now groupie?
lol so Pac gettin shot and an investigation happening as a result of his death is HIS fault? blame Orlando Anderson for that n*gga, like the otha homie said the feds wouldnt have given two sh*ts about that song if Pac made it through the Vegas shooting or never got shot at period. lemme guess, Pac purposely set up a shooting that night leading to his death so Suge could release Makaveli shortly after; starting an investigation, right?

Can you read groupie? I said Pac violated street code by putting street sh*t on wax. Making songs about his beef instead of getting sh*t handled. As for Pac's "blood affiliations", that don't make him no gangster. sh*t, ray J has blood affiliations. Plain and simple, Pac wasn't on the level of the dudes he was snitching on. Tut, Jack and Jimmy were real gangsters who grew up that way. Neither Pac nor Suge came up like them. These dudes were doing gangster sh*t when Pac was in acting/dance school and Suge was playing football. Suge didn't grow up MOB Piru. He was a good kid from a upper middle class family, who happened to live in that neighborhood. MOB dudes didn't start fu*king w/ him until he got big money and had industry connects.
LOL at callin me a groupie when you, Natulius O, and rburgundy are in every Pac thread nitpickin at everybody's posts in an effort to diminish his credibility as a person and a rapper. its funny lol cuz yall try SO damn hard, for real Hit 'Em Up musta been diggin in ya a.ss when that sh*t dropped. thats why yall phoney east coast/Biggie d!ck ridin f*ggets can hit a nerve sometimes son.

So like I said b4, Pac wasn't on the level of gangster as Jack, Tut or Jimmy, and neither was Suge. You talking about what Pac "coulda" done, yet you've never heard a report of Pac getting into a physical confrontation w/ any of the dudes he dissed on wax... just songs.
the level of gangsta as Tut & Jack? LOL. Jack was workin with the f*ckin cops, I don't care what else is on your resume, that violates street code right there. and there was a physical confrontation with Puff, BIG, Cease etc. I posted the interview already. Pac aint snuff nobody but a gun was pulled and Suge wanted to settle it right then and there. lol Pac wasnt scared of those n*ggas (tut, jack, jim), all three of them were fradulent lowlives who lived off their gangsta reputation. Pac was a better n*gga in general, more talented wit a brighter future. you right; he wasnt like them; good thing he wasnt like them cuz id rather him be known as one of the best rappers to step in the booth then a n*gga whos facin permanent jail time or bein deported from the country. but because he wasnt like them doesn't mean he had to be scared to them, or bow to them cuz they was "hard" street n*ggas. he was the biggest voice as a rapper and there aint a better way to send a message then a classic diss song. how yall know thats all Pac had planned? yall gonna ask me how I knew Pac was gon do somethin, well how do u know he wouldnt? the train of events that took place after he got famous insists he woulda done somethin.

And when did I say Puffy was a real n*gga? I said Puff knew the code of silence when it comes to street sh*t. Pac didn't, that's why he got shot up, robbed and ran outta NY, and couldn't come back w/o 100 dudes holding him down. It's funny you called me a Biggie stan but I never mentioned B.I.G. once in my posts.
Puff didn't know sh*t, he just screamed Bad Boys move in silence and violence while he's sittin there makin songs on underground mixtapes like stop yappin goin at Pac, or screamin BS in Long Kiss Goodnight after Pac was dead on some b*tch sh*t. and Pac couldnt come back to NY cuz he dissed nearly every NY rapper on wax and the media overblew it to an east coast-west coast thing which in the heat of the moment was dangerous. Jack and Tut aint Frank Lucas, Al Capone, or whoever u think they are lol them n*ggas alone aint the reason Pac had to mobb up to come to NY.

On some real sh*t, were you even listening to rap when Pac was alive?
n*gga is you stupid? i got every Pac album while he was alive; nd most of the makaveli mixtapes . i was 13 when he died but i started listenin to rap before Pac even joined DR homie, hop off.


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 6 years ago '09        #127
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 r.burgundy said:
doesnt matter what it was meant to be.it matters what is.fact is,his song got a dude sittin in a cell for life.im sure if u ask him about tha song,he would feel alot differently from u

if he didnt fear anything,he woulda neva left ny.people like u act like u knew this dude personally or even knows somebody who knew him.sh*t is comedy.i go off facts,not opinion.fact is,his song got king tut sittin in a cell.bottom line is thats tha definition of a snitch
Pac went to DR because he was servin a 4 1/2 year sentence because of Hatian Jack b*tch a.ss, and Suge was willin to throw down 1 mill to bail him out after 11 months if he came to DR. add in the fact that Pac was from the west side as much as the east side n it makes sense; youre too ignorant to see that. take the bail after 11 months and join the biggest record label in the world, or serve the rest of our 4 1/2 sentence for a staged crime and return back to the city you got set up in? dumbass n*ggas i swear to god.
 6 years ago '07        #128
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
lol so Pac gettin shot and an investigation happening as a result of his death is HIS fault? blame Orlando Anderson for that n*gga, like the otha homie said the feds wouldnt have given two sh*ts about that song if Pac made it through the Vegas shooting or never got shot at period. lemme guess, Pac purposely set up a shooting that night leading to his death so Suge could release Makaveli shortly after; starting an investigation, right?



LOL at callin me a groupie when you, Natulius O, and rburgundy are in every Pac thread nitpickin at everybody's posts in an effort to diminish his credibility as a person and a rapper. its funny lol cuz yall try SO damn hard, for real Hit 'Em Up musta been diggin in ya a.ss when that sh*t dropped. thats why yall phoney east coast/Biggie d!ck ridin f*ggets can hit a nerve sometimes son.



the level of gangsta as Tut & Jack? LOL. Jack was workin with the f*ckin cops, I don't care what else is on your resume, that violates street code right there. and there was a physical confrontation with Puff, BIG, Cease etc. I posted the interview already. Pac aint snuff nobody but a gun was pulled and Suge wanted to settle it right then and there. lol Pac wasnt scared of those n*ggas, all three of them were fradulent lowlives who lived off their gangsta reputation. Pac was a better n*gga in general, more talented wit a brighter future. you right; he wasnt like them; good thing he wasnt like them cuz id rather him be known as one of the best rappers to step in the booth then a n*gga whos facin permanent jail time or bein deported from the country. but because he wasnt like them doesn't mean he had to be scared to them, or bow to them cuz they was a "hard" street n*ggas. he was the biggest voice as a rapper and there aint a better way to send a message then a classic diss on. how yall know thats all Pac had planned? yall gonna ask me how I knew Pac was gon do somethin, well how do u know he wouldnt? the train of events that took place after he got famous insists he woulda done somethin.



Puff didn't know sh*t, he just screamed Bad Boys move in silence and violence while he's sittin there makin songs on underground mixtapes like stop yappin goin at Pac, or screamin BS in Long Kiss Goodnight after Pac was dead on some b*tch sh*t. and Pac couldnt come back to NY cuz he dissed nearly every NY rapper on wax and the media overblew it to an east coast-west coast thing which in the heat of the moment was dangerous. Jack and Tut aint Frank Lucas, Al Capone, or whoever u think they are lol them n*ggas alone aint the reason Pac had to mobb up to come to NY.



n*gga is you stupid? i got every Pac album while he was alive; nd most of the makaveli mixtapes . i was 13 when he died but i started listenin to rap before Pac even joined DR homie, hop off.
and u dont see him,nautilus,and me in every pac thread or big thread typin long a.ss essays lol.if u gotta type 10 pages worth of nonsense to prove he was a gangsta,then should tell u he wasnt no gangsta lol

pac made some powerful music,no denyin that.but was he some super duper gangsta prophet,.no.n*gga only case was for r*pe,and he wants to talk about upliftin women
 6 years ago '10        #129
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 4REAL said:
It's also easy to be an online gangster as yourself when you're talking tough over your computer in the suburbs. You wouldn't even dare run a yellow light.

I want to see you:
1)Shoot 2 officers
2)Stomp out a gangbanger
3)Have a shootout with gangbangers
4)Call out extortionists and robbers

Let everyone know about how much stripes you have and how you deal with "real n*ggaz". Let everyone know how much you're about "that life". Rundown your rap sheet for us so we can know how much of a "real n*gga" judge you are.


Look at this n*gga all hurt and sh*t. Now I gotta prove I'm a Gangster because I pointed out tupac's losses. I never claimed to be a "thug" or an "outlaw" or one of "amerikkas most wanted" but I know a n*gga who did. I bet he wont stomp a n*gga ever again..... Oh wait he's
 05-29-2012, 02:39 PM         #130
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 the synthesis said:
You need to look at the history of some of ur BLACK LEADERS, especially when they were in their 20's...e.g Malcolm X

You excepted too much from Pac, doesnt matter if he was intelligent, he was a 20 year old man with a tough upbringing thrust in to the world of fame, money and women, i.e Hollywood, you ain't coming out of that lookin like an angel. Ur experiences and ur age mold who u are, Pac aint have a chance to grow.
I have read Malcolm's autobiography five times. I totally understand why his story of transformation is inspiring as it was for me. However, there is one HUGE difference between Pac and Malcolm. Pac knew better. Pac had a strong extended family that fought for freedom and equality. His examples growing up were Black people who loved other Black people. You would NEVER catch a Black Panther say they would cut a sista's face no matter how old. Right is right wrong is wrong!

Malcolm was raised in a culture that hated itself. His exploits whether it be straightening his hair, worshiping white women, and his life of crime all display a self-destructive person with no sense of self. It wasn't until he found himself that he realized the beauty within himself and his people. Pac grew up very well aware of this, but chose to divide his own people while supporting those who took advantage of them. That's not love.
 6 years ago '07        #131
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
Pac went to DR because he was servin a 4 1/2 year sentence because of Hatian Jack b*tch a.ss, and Suge was willin to throw down 1 mill to bail him out after 11 months if he came to DR. add in the fact that Pac was from the west side as much as the east side n it makes sense; youre too ignorant to see that. take the bail after 11 months and join the biggest record label in the world, or serve the rest of our 4 1/2 sentence for a staged crime and return back to the city you got set up in? dumbass n*ggas i swear to god.
he was servin a sentence cause he participated in a r*pe and u wanna defend this dude.all jack did was get his case seperated,which was smart.jack was smart and took a plea deal

do u even kno what bail means lol
 6 years ago '09        #132
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 r.burgundy said:
and u dont see him,nautilus,and me in every pac thread or big thread typin long a.ss essays lol.if u gotta type 10 pages worth of nonsense to prove he was a gangsta,then should tell u he wasnt no gangsta lol

pac made some powerful music,no denyin that.but was he some super duper gangsta prophet,.no.n*gga only case was for r*pe,and he wants to talk about upliftin women
lol dat last part jus confirmed ur loss, we in here talkin about Hatian Jack; hell the thread is a line about Hatian Jack and u still talkin about some r*pe case as if Pac was guilty for it lol. nobody said he was some super gangsta like u east coast n*ggas are hypin up Hatian Jack who aint even in the country no more and worked wit cops, but he was a n*gga that stood up for himself n proved it on more then one occasion.

nd it wasnt even a r*pe, it was forcibly touchin the buttocks lol getchya facts straight for ONCE homie ur impossible to argue wit
 6 years ago '05        #133
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 r.burgundy said:
pac made some powerful music,no denyin that.but was he some super duper gangsta prophet,.no.n*gga only case was for r*pe,and he wants to talk about upliftin women
How is his r*pe case and his music he makes to uplift women have relevance to this 2Pac/Haitian Jack thread whatsoever? Are you going off subject to hate 2Pac? It seems like your the one with the real problem. Listen, we get it. You don't like 2Pac. You're here to hate on the dead man. Just admit that you're a hater and free yourself from the torture. Take the first step and admit that you're a Tupac hater.

The fact that you have to try to prove that 2Pac wasn't some "super duper gangsta" in every single Pac related thread says a lot about what you think of him and says plenty about you.
 6 years ago '08        #134
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 r.burgundy said:
and u dont see him,nautilus,and me in every pac thread or big thread typin long a.ss essays lol.if u gotta type 10 pages worth of nonsense to prove he was a gangsta,then should tell u he wasnt no gangsta lol

pac made some powerful music,no denyin that.but was he some super duper gangsta prophet,.no.n*gga only case was for r*pe,and he wants to talk about upliftin women
for real, i never understood why ppl cant take the good w/ the bad, my n*gga PAC is one of the GOATS and a Rap Legend, he had unbelievable fire/will/desire in his heart (unfortunately towards the end of his life he used that fire/will/desire to bring about negativity and fear and that lead to his demise), but he was not no gangster, not even in the slightest

all u gotta do is watch that video of him in HIS being interviewed...Pac was a sweet boy (not calling him gay or trying to be funny), your not a sweet boy at 17 and all of a sudden become a G at 21, gangsters are sociopaths for the most part, it goes hand n hand, all the real gangster/hood dudes in my fam or that I came up wit, they have a desposition, almost from birth you can tell what type of life they will lead/get into, they arent goodie two show thespian/drama class superstars in High School that all of a sudden got G in their adult years...NOPE, ppl confuse pacs fire/will/desire w/ him being a G which he was not, it just gave him the heart to run his mouth and yap like a G which unfortunately in my belief led to his untimley death
 6 years ago '07        #135
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 dlettern said:
I have read Malcolm's autobiography five times. I totally understand why his story of transformation is inspiring as it was for me. However, there is one HUGE difference between Pac and Malcolm. Pac knew better. Pac had a strong extended family that fought for freedom and equality. His examples growing up were Black people who loved other Black people. You would NEVER catch a Black Panther say they would cut a sista's face no matter how old. Right is right wrong is wrong!

Malcolm was raised in a culture that hated itself. His exploits whether it be straightening his hair, worshiping white women, and his life of crime all display a self-destructive person with no sense of self. It wasn't until he found himself that he realized the beauty within himself and his people. Pac grew up very well aware of this, but chose to divide his own people while supporting those who took advantage of them. That's not love.
exactly.i dont think there is eva an artist or person ive been more dissappointed wit than 2pac.all that culture and u wanna portray some gangsta.he reminds me of 1 of them dudes who in college actin like they from a hood and go home to a nice a.ss house
 6 years ago '09        #136
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 r.burgundy said:
exactly.i dont think there is eva an artist or person ive been more dissappointed wit than 2pac.all that culture and u wanna portray some gangsta.he reminds me of 1 of them dudes who in college actin like they from a hood and go home to a nice a.ss house
except Pac grew up in ghettos all his life, had no parents growin up cuz his moms was on crack n he was broke as f*ck until he joined digital underground/startin actin n sh*t. lol u losin more credibiltiy wit every post.
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 4REAL said:
How is his r*pe case and his music he makes to uplift women have relevance to this 2Pac/Haitian Jack thread whatsoever? Are you going off subject to hate 2Pac? It seems like your the one with the real problem. Listen, we get it. You don't like 2Pac. You're here to hate on the dead man. Just admit that you're a hater and free yourself from the torture. Take the first step and admit that you're a Tupac hater.
how does biggie hav relevance to it?

wasnt u tha same dude askin who has anybody in here eva shot,and u would like to see us shoot 2 off duty cops,call out some g's on wax etc etc?

i got a reason too hate 2pac,but i dont hate him tho.r.i.p to tha brotha all day.what i do hate is stupid a.ss stans that cant seperate a character from his music

as for ya edit,what i think of him was that he was a sucka and sellout,what it says about me is that i dont care what people think.i can form my own opinion


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 6 years ago '07        #138
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
except Pac grew up in ghettos all his life, had no parents growin up cuz his moms was on crack n he was broke as f*ck until he joined digital underground/startin actin n sh*t. lol u losin more credibiltiy wit every post.
alotta people grew up like that.what is your point?
 6 years ago '05        #139
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 Nautilus O said:


Look at this n*gga all hurt and sh*t. Now I gotta prove I'm a Gangster
Yes you do because when you talk like you have stripes and talk like you're in the streets, and talk like you're in the know, then you have to prove it. If not, then shutup. You're resume is as blank as a new word document. Stay in a pencil necked geeks lane and stop talking about "street life" when you're not about it.
 05-29-2012, 02:50 PM         #140
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2pac was never getting extorted by some f*ggot jewish mafia pac had suge
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