"A Real Live Tale About A Snitch Named "Haitian Jack.”... - 2Pac/Makaveli

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 6 years ago '04        #41
teekarow 2 heat pts
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 FlyElite23 said:
Tupac didnt believe in the illuminati and Prodigy was the first to mention them on track.
I thought Pac did believe that was true, but you are right Prodigy said the most infamous bars in rap about the Illuminati in LL cool J's I shot ya remix in 95.
 6 years ago '10        #42
Nautilus O 18 heat pts18
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
he aint do nothin about it? he was the biggest voice in the industry at the time and he planned on airin this sh*t out in one of his famous diss songs that he knew everyone would hear; and it was in the same year he he had anotha #1 album so EVERYBODY woulda been all over it includin the media & press. f*ck you sayin? thats all Pac had to do, you actin like Pac was suppposed to fly NY strapped and bust a clip in his face.

add in the fact that Pac died what, less then a year after he got outta prison? and he was doin shows, makin money, countless music, movies n sh*t n*gga barley had time to do anything.
But he had all the time in the world to stomp a n*gga out in a casino, and then catch some hot ones in the passenger seat. ya daddy was an actor who was not about to do ANYTHING

 4REAL said:
You expected a superstar rapper fresh out of prison and on probation to go out to shoot and k!ll all of those people who wronged him?

You watch too many movies. Quit living in a fairytale land and leave your suburb home for a change and learn how the world works.
He was all about getting at Big and Puff and all these East Coast Rappers, but all he could do was make a a verse about the n*gga that got him shot. This where pac stans sound dumb.... He was supposed to be all about that life, but when it comes to getting at a real n*gga he wound up getting shot up TWICE
 6 years ago '04        #43
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[QUOTE=MakaveliToDon91;23404200]never happend son. sh*t been a fairy tale, Pac aint ever tell BIG that. check it:QUOTE]

I remember that....but was it not Big that said the Last time he saw him, that was when he said it was for the bread??? But i do remember what you talkin bout though, cuz i laughed when I heard bout that Bishop statement. .
 6 years ago '04        #44
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I remember that....but was it not Big that said the Last time he saw him, that was when he said it was for the bread??? But i do remember what you talkin bout though, cuz i laughed when I heard bout that Bishop statement. .
yeah..didn't pac say how BIG was fronting like he was 'Steel' during that confrontation..........
 6 years ago '08        #45
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 Schavez98 said:
Everybody knows Biggie told him not to fu*k with those dudes like that. He told Pac to stay down and not be showing his face all around like everybody was ok with it. The night that he got shot at the studio, Big was trying to show love because he was already there. Big had told him not to come in the first place though. HE already knew what it was and was warning Pac that it was a bad idea to come around and Pac did anyway. Pac felt like Big let him get hit but it was never the case.
The same dudes Biggie warned Pac about are the same dudes that Biggie continued to hang with after Pac got shot. Hell, Big brought Pac to Haitian Jack and plus Dexter Issac even admitted that he was a friend of Biggie. Biggie surrounded himself with the same circle of snark n*ggas that shot Pac. So any advice he could have given would look hypocritcal. How can Biggie tell someone else not to fu*k with the same dudes he himself hung with, and then expect that person to listen to him?

That's why it dont hold weight. And when Biggie warned Pac, he never gave detail he just told Pac "Ill talk to you later" and never got back at him. Big tried to play both sides of the fence, and tried to be cool with Pac and the same dudes who robbed Pac AT THE SAME TIME which is how the beef started. Biggie was caught in between Pac and Henchman/Haitain Jack/Dexter trying to be loyal to all these people at once.
 6 years ago '04        #46
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 skillahmang said:
yeah..didn't pac say how BIG was fronting like he was 'Steel' during that confrontation..........
word?? I never heard Pac's take on the situation. I need to find that.
 6 years ago '04        #47
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 Chief Dee said:
The same dudes Biggie warned Pac about are the same dudes that Biggie continued to hang with after Pac got shot. Hell, Big brought Pac to Haitian Jack and plus Dexter Issac even admitted that he was a friend of Biggie. Biggie surrounded himself with the same circle of snark n*ggas that shot Pac. So any advice he could have given would look hypocritcal. How can Biggie tell someone else not to fu*k with the same dudes he himself hung with, and then expect that person to listen to him?

That's why it dont hold weight. And when Biggie warned Pac, he never gave detail he just told Pac "Ill talk to you later" and never got back at him. Big tried to play both sides of the fence, and tried to be cool with Pac and the same dudes who robbed Pac AT THE SAME TIME which is how the beef started. Biggie was caught in between Pac and Henchman/Haitain Jack/Dexter trying to be loyal to all these people at once.
hmm...I can agree with that 100% actually. Im sure Big was getting extorted like the other rappers we heard about..Probally to shook to cut ties, unless Diddy played his part in keeping him with that crowd. I dunno But once again i guess i can understand the Rage Pac had with Big. Who shot ya didnt help either.
 6 years ago '05        #48
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 Chief Dee said:
The same dudes Biggie warned Pac about are the same dudes that Biggie continued to hang with after Pac got shot. Hell, Big brought Pac to Haitian Jack and plus Dexter Issac even admitted that he was a friend of Biggie. Biggie surrounded himself with the same circle of snark n*ggas that shot Pac. So any advice he could have given would look hypocritcal. How can Biggie tell someone else not to fu*k with the same dudes he himself hung with, and then expect that person to listen to him?

That's why it dont hold weight. And when Biggie warned Pac, he never gave detail he just told Pac "Ill talk to you later" and never got back at him. Big tried to play both sides of the fence, and tried to be cool with Pac and the same dudes who robbed Pac AT THE SAME TIME which is how the beef started. Biggie was caught in between Pac and Henchman/Haitain Jack/Dexter trying to be loyal to all these people at once.


 skillahmang said:
if BIGGIE really told pac to not fu*k with these people. why did he let his boss DIDDY get extorted by this "black mafia".



biggie just wanted to MC. he didnt stand for sh*t.
^This.......

I think at this point we all can admit that Big wasn't a don and Pac wasn't the hardest thug in the world. Pac was about what he rapped more than Big was, but the end result was the streets took him out. All this behind the scenes sh*t we've been learning about for the last few years was the real driving force behind the beef. Big did what he could in giving Pac a heads up. Once Pac was aware of just how crazy sh*t was, he lashed out at the whole thing.....and it took him out.
 6 years ago '11        #49
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I find it funny Cash Money never had a problem with Haitian Jack and they been in this sh*t since 1991. - Keith Clark
 6 years ago '04        #50
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 Schavez98 said:
Everybody knows Biggie told him not to fu*k with those dudes like that. He told Pac to stay down and not be showing his face all around like everybody was ok with it. The night that he got shot at the studio, Big was trying to show love because he was already there. Big had told him not to come in the first place though. HE already knew what it was and was warning Pac that it was a bad idea to come around and Pac did anyway. Pac felt like Big let him get hit but it was never the case.
Dont believe everything Hollywood tell you.....
 6 years ago '10        #51
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met him a couple of times he sound like a cool dude...
seen him get shot at in front of a club no bullet hit him and he said
"oh sh*t you seen that" and walk off
 6 years ago '04        #52
SpyDa 180 heat pts180
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all this news make me miss the GOAT
 6 years ago '04        #53
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 hollabizak said:
Lies,Lies,and more lies from fake n*ggaz.Biggie told 2pac ONCE to watch who he was hanging around. Didnt say why or give him a reason. Still it wasnt Haitian Jack that called him to the studio. He had Henchman do it, who was the set up man,he lied to pac about paying him to do a song with lil shawn. Still Biggie shouldve let 2pac know his life was on the line.
They had no plans of k!lling Tupac 'til he pulled his gun
 6 years ago '11        #54
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 Nautilus O said:
So Pac is "real" cause he knew the n*gga that shot him and aint do nothing about it?

If pac came out in the 2000's he would be Nick Cannon
 6 years ago '07        #55
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 Im Soo Special said:
the one who pulled the trigger, no he didnt know him clown

jack set pac up on the s3xual a.ssault trial. henchman had the robbery set up. pac got shot cuz he wouldn't get down and when he went for his gun, it went off
so pac is just tha ultimate victim,but somehow still a gangsta?
 6 years ago '07        #56
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 Im Soo Special said:
so pac never shot anybody? who u shot? wat would u do to those who shot u?


better yet, wat would u do if pac smacked the sh*t outta u? sue the hell outta him
probaly not.nobody.shoot them or get them shot

discpline his skinny a.ss just like henchman and jack
 6 years ago '07        #57
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 TheAwesomeOne said:
Yeah because we know that a gangsta always knows if he is getting set up or not.
no.but we do kno gangsta dont make songs about it,and accuse they friends of doin it
 6 years ago '06        #58
Affectz 164 heat pts164
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Everybody by now should know pac didn't wanna talk to big anymore cuz he knew big knew about what was gonna happen and because he didn't wanna be friends to somebody who had affiliations with somebody that shot him,I'm sure pac saw the incident coming for running his mouth and I'm a big pac fan,pac just surrounded himself with the wrong people. In 96 he even said if he sees big in a place filled with media he's not gonna start a f!ght, that shows us that pac didn't think big set the shooting up or wanted it to happen,biggie was just in a tough situation,and pac didn't believe in illuminati and if he did then I think when he said in his last interview shows his thoughts on it ,he said not to worry about it and just keep getting money
 6 years ago '11        #59
heretic shae 18 heat pts18
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anybody got that NY Post interview Tupac gave where he popped sh*t about Haitian Jack???
 6 years ago '04        #60
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 MakaveliToDon91 said:
he aint do nothin about it? he was the biggest voice in the industry at the time and he planned on airin this sh*t out in one of his famous diss songs that he knew everyone would hear; and it was in the same year he he had anotha #1 album so EVERYBODY woulda been all over it includin the media & press. f*ck you sayin? thats all Pac had to do, you actin like Pac was suppposed to fly NY strapped and bust a clip in his face.

add in the fact that Pac died what, less then a year after he got outta prison? and he was doin shows, makin money, countless music, movies n sh*t n*gga barley had time to do anything.


Since when is that how you handle "street" sh*t? n*ggaz shoot you up and you think your homeboy knew it was coming, and your response is to make a diss song and air out street sh*t so "everybody" can hear it? You do know that "everybody" includes the police and the Feds? Tut, Jimmy and Puff are STILL being investigated b/c of that song. That's not doing something about it, that's dry snitching so just in case you get k!lled everybody knows where to look.

I'm not saying Pac was supposed to be bussin his gun at these dudes b/c he was too famous for that, and he wasn't on that level of gangsta anyhow. What I am saying is that making songs and airing out street business on wax so police and Feds can get involved, puts you in the same snitch category as Jack and Jimmy. When it's real you don't press record.

 Puff Daddy said:
“He ain’t mad at the n*ggas that shot him; he knows where they’re at. He knows who shot him. If you ask him, he knows, and everybody in the street knows, and he’s not stepping to them, because he knows that he’s not gonna get away with that sh-t. To me, that’s some real sucker sh-t. Be mad at everybody, man; don’t be using n*ggas as scapegoats. We know that he’s a nice guy from New York. All sh-t aside, Tupac is a nice, good-hearted guy... I’m not saying that I’m ignorant to the rumors. But if you got a problem and somebody wants to get your a.ss, they don’t talk about it. What it’s been right now is a lot of moviemaking and a lot of entertainment drama. Bad boys move in silence. If somebody wants to get your a.ss, you’re gonna wake up in heaven. There ain’t no record gonna be made about it. It ain’t gonna be no interviews; it’s gonna be straight-up `Oh sh-t, where am I? What are these wings on my back? Your name is Jesus Christ?’ When you’re involved in some real sh-t, it’s gonna be some real sh-t."
^Say what you want about Puff, but Puff knows the code and the rules to the game. Pac didn't.
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