so we just gonna act like LeBron Jame$ isn't having the 2nd greatest postseason run in 50+ years?

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 05-23-2012, 05:51 PM         #61
SeaJaiye  OP
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hot topic

kobe never led the league in PER and never will. laker stans mad that bron is efficient
 05-23-2012, 06:11 PM         #62
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SeaGay, you're just a stat boi and thats all you'll ever be Next you'll bring up how lebron's hairline is receeding more efficently than kobe's
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 6 years ago '09        #63
ReggieA 196 heat pts196
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better bring home the hardware, that is all that matters in June, raise that Larry O'Brien Trophy.
 6 years ago '06        #64
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greatness indeed. boston's still gonna be tough to beat though
 05-23-2012, 06:20 PM         #65
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 SeaJaiye said:
it ended with him averaging 38, 8, 8 in the orlando series and not having any help to get the job done he dropped 50 in one game on 65% shooting and lost, but its his fault??
is this true?
 05-23-2012, 06:27 PM         #66
STR8HEAT  OP
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Bron can walk on water and n*ggas will still hate

LBJ>>>>
amen my brotha
 6 years ago '05        #67
2 Pistolz 13 heat pts13
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 bridouble said:

Nothing is perfect fam...no stat is gonna nail it on the head everytime...

but cmon RODMAN and "PER" doesn't make much sense alot of the things he did that made him a HOF player didn't show up in the stat box
Exactly. sh*tty example, no offense
 05-23-2012, 06:51 PM         #68
SeaJaiye  OP
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 arqitekt said:
is this true?
yup. 38.5, 8.3, 8.0 we're not worthy
 05-23-2012, 06:59 PM         #69
Aquarius  OP
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 SeaJaiye said:
hot topic kobe never led the league in PER and never will. laker stans mad that bron is efficient
i dont like either player but anyone who takes PER in account to how good someone is is an diot...john hollinger is a stupid clown and should be fired...he had the fu*king 76ers ranked 1 in his power rankings for awhile...

PER isnt even an official stat...its for geeks and nerds
 05-23-2012, 07:07 PM         #70
SeaJaiye  OP
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 Aquarius said:
i dont like either player but anyone who takes PER in account to how good someone is is an diot...john hollinger is a stupid clown and should be fired...he had the fu*king 76ers ranked 1 in his power rankings for awhile...

PER isnt even an official stat...its for geeks and nerds


yea look at all those scrubs leading the league in PER every year
 6 years ago '06        #71
modalee 5 heat pts
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Using PER as the only measure of how great a season or postseason a player is having just shows how little you know about basketball.
 6 years ago '12        #72
Fearless Genius 72 heat pts72
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 2 Pistolz said:
Exactly. sh*tty example, no offense
PER accounts for both offense and defense, it just does a really bad job at it, especially defense. why should we take a stat so seriously that says hall of fame players who made a living at the defensive end are below average according to hollinger? it's so off base, it's ridiculous.

as far as PER for measuring offense, it's a biased statistic. it doesn't really account for position. when you don't account for position you're numbers are going to be off and skewed in favor of certain positions on the floor. different positions have different responsibilities and play on different areas of the floor. it doesn't make sense to compare a guards rebounding rate to a centers like PER does or fg% for that matter. also guards are more turnover prone than big men are. but the nature of basketball is you need both to be successful. you wouldn't want 5 centers on the floor at the same time. so when PER does a poor job by not accounting for position your numbers are going to be skewed and consequently flawed.

lastly, PER doesn't account for teammates. this is just one example: chris bosh routinely put up PER numbers in the low to mid 20's in toronto with 25 being his highest. he has had PERs below 20 since both seasons since joining the heat. he isn't a worse player, he just isn't getting the same opportunities anymore because he has better teammates around him. people like to give credit solely to an individual for individual statistics. but the truth is individual statistics are also influenced, sometimes greatly, by who you play with.

when you break it down, it's really not a great metric at all.




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 6 years ago '05        #73
Dun Language 3971 heat pts3971
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 Dun Language said:
no rings so who cares but heat stans
again. this
 6 years ago '12        #74
Prostyle 2 heat pts
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Jordan had 5 rings at 27
 6 years ago '05        #75
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most of those people didn't win the years they had those numbers tho
 6 years ago '11        #76
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This is a very useless thread...we're really discussing PER? A made up bullsh*t measure of efficiency created by an ESPN analyst.

 6 years ago '07        #77
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 Dun Language said:
again. this
Truth.
 05-23-2012, 08:44 PM         #78
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 Prostyle said:
Jordan had 5 rings at 27
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 Mathematic said:
Bron can walk on water and n*ggas will still hate

LBJ>>>>
 05-23-2012, 08:59 PM         #80
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