Stan Van Gundy Relieved of Duties; Otis Smith and Magic Mutually Agree To Part Ways

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 6 years ago '06        #41
BlackandGifted 17 heat pts17
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 KeepinItTrill said:
I've seen 2 Magic fan post

1 saying he's a good coach

1 saying he was a.ss



and the East is weak as hell...so...yea
I'm not a Magic fan, but the East had the same level of talent on the top as the West this season, what do you mean?

He took these bums to the finals and he's not a good coach..so who is a good coach if a 637 winning % isn't good in your book?

 6 years ago '07        #42
JamcnPrettyboy 96 heat pts96
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Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
And a Magic alum MT @MikeWellsNBA expect that Magic will
reach out to Brian Shaw about their opening. Shaw has been
huge on Vogel's staff




Aahhhhhh!

I also want kevin pritchard as our new gm!
 6 years ago '11        #43
X_WunderKind_X 909 heat pts909
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 joshdogg26 said:
stan has now been fired by shaq and by bizzaro shaq. in the future, he should avoid coaching teams with shaq-like players.
was stan horrible in miami? or just differences between him and the organization
 05-21-2012, 02:56 PM         #44
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 joshdogg26 said:
stan has now been fired by shaq and by bizzaro shaq. in the future, he should avoid coaching teams with shaq-like players.
 6 years ago '07        #45
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 maxnn said:
You didn't get fired yet?
Naw management here aint bout that life. They're scared to fire me.
 6 years ago '10        #46
rek0nize 66 heat pts66
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He was a good coach.

I'm overly sick of the whole watch 4 players crowd around the 3 point line and launch 3's though. That sh*t was going to win no title. Then again we don't really have anybody who can take people off the dribble to the hoop and create their own shot on a consistent basis. Our whole team is a bunch of jump shooters and Dwight thrown in the middle. J Rich used to be a driver and so was Vince, they got there and started playing Stan's way and shying away from going to the hoop and launching jumpers.
 6 years ago '07        #47
KeepinItTrill 30 heat pts30
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 BlackandGifted said:
I'm not a Magic fan, but the East had the same level of talent on the top as the West this season, what do you mean?

He took these bums to the finals and he's not a good coach..so who is a good coach if a 637 winning % isn't good in your book?

was talking about the year he took em to the Finals actually

Celtics were hurt, and there was really nobody else with a good team in the East that year if I remember right

winning % isn't a tell-all as to whether you're a good coach or not IMO
 05-21-2012, 02:58 PM         #48
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Last ditch effort to try and keep Howard. Not going to work. Just rebuild it and hope for a #1 pick in 2013.
There it is...
 6 years ago '04        #49
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We appreciate what SVG did for the Magic these past few seasons, but it was definitely time for a coaching change.


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 6 years ago '07        #50
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 X_WunderKind_X said:
was stan horrible in miami? or just differences between him and the organization
you have to take shaq's account of things with a massive grain of salt, but let him tell it he just panicked and unsettled his players, especially in the playoffs. his attitude clashed with shaq's. we lost in the ECF in 05, which wasn't necessarily stan's fault because wade had a strained rib muscle and missed game 6 and tried to gut it out in game 7. all 5 starters were playing with injuries.

that summer we pulled off the huge trade for posey, toine, j-will, got GP, etc. we started the season 11-10 and riley didn't like how his vision was coming together so he took the helm and never looked back. so it was a combination of a few things, but if you pair that with some of the accounts out of orlando, i think he tries to micromanage and can rub his players the wrong way at times.
 6 years ago '06        #51
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 KeepinItTrill said:
was talking about the year he took em to the Finals actually

Celtics were hurt, and there was really nobody else with a good team in the East that year if I remember right

winning % isn't a tell-all as to whether you're a good coach or not IMO
you got me on the first two

The east wasn't that great then
 05-21-2012, 03:01 PM         #52
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They gotta make the ECF for him to at least consider staying. How you gonna sign a long-term contract based off another 1st/2nd rd exit?
 6 years ago '06        #53
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 KeepinItTrill said:
was talking about the year he took em to the Finals actually

Celtics were hurt, and there was really nobody else with a good team in the East that year if I remember right

winning % isn't a tell-all as to whether you're a good coach or not IMO
SVG broke 50 wins each year...almost 60 2 years (won 59 games)
a little over 30 playoff wins...went to conference finals 2 years in a row and went to the finals
coached 2 of the Most improved players
had outstanding defense every yr..offense could have been better but he worked with what he had

This past yr was forgettable, but stan had a great tenure in orlando you dont know what youre talking about
 6 years ago '05        #54
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 KeepinItTrill said:
winning % isn't a tell-all as to whether you're a good coach or not IMO
Exactly, I mean im pretty sure even i can coach a dwight howard lead team to a 50 win season
 6 years ago '05        #55
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 JamcnPrettyboy said:
Howard Beck @HowardBeckNYT
And a Magic alum MT @MikeWellsNBA expect that Magic will
reach out to Brian Shaw about their opening. Shaw has been
huge on Vogel's staff

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 6 years ago '06        #56
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If Magic fans think this will keep Howard in Orlando, feast your eyes on the end of the 2010 Cavs season.

Magic fans in here happy...fired a good coach and Howard's going to BOUNCE.
 6 years ago '10        #57
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 KeepinItTrill said:
was talking about the year he took em to the Finals actually

Celtics were hurt, and there was really nobody else with a good team in the East that year if I remember right

winning % isn't a tell-all as to whether you're a good coach or not IMO
Celtics didn't have KG and we didn't have Jameer that series. Celtics should've beat us. We went back to Boston and sh*t on their life by 20. Everything was in their favor.

Then why do coaches who coached good players on a team get fired mid season?? sh*t has happened many times. Have plenty of good players to work with, but you can't win sh*t.
 6 years ago '10        #58
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 ThaShark316 said:
If Magic fans think this will keep Howard in Orlando, feast your eyes on the end of the 2010 Cavs season.

Magic fans in here happy...fired a good coach and Howard's going to BOUNCE.
Where's he going??

Everybody isn't Lebron James.

He only wanted out cuz of Otis bi*ch and Stan Fat Gundy.
 6 years ago '07        #59
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Stan's success is heavily contributed to dwight. Don't get it twisted.

Plus our 4 out- 1 in system was heavily flawed and dudes would come to the magic and fall in love with the 3. I hated that we were a jump shooting team. We would constantly shoot ourselves out of games which pissed me off.

As for stan. He was a good x's and o's guy but he was also very stubborn and very negative. Just didn't trust his players and was always throwing them under the bus. He also favored vets way too much and wouldn't bench them for fu*king up but would bench rookies or young players that quickness if they fu*ked up.

Plus him and otis were way too buddy buddy and otis was the one making roster moves to please stan more than he was to please dwight.

I'm just glad we're finally going in a new direction.


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 6 years ago '08        #60
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