Nba Trades That Never Happened

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 6 years ago '05        #1
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Nba Trades That Never Happened
 

 


It almost happened.

Johan Petro almost became a Jazz.

Wait, that's not it. Let's start over.

It almost happened.

In the words of Orlando Magic general manager Otis Smith, Dwight Howard almost got traded.

"It was real," Smith said on deadline day. "We weren't rolling the dice."

But Smith canceled his game of craps or Yahtzee or chuck-a-luck or Perquackey when Howard agreed to sign a waiver, guaranteeing the center will be in Orlando in 2013. That means Howard -- for now, at least -- will go on the list of big-name players who came this close to being traded, only for those moves to fall through for one reason or another.

Here's the rest of that list -- 12 NBA trades that, by reputable reports, nearly happened, until the teams (or players) involved decided otherwise.

1. Kobe Bryant to the Bulls

Kobe calling the shots in L.A.; it seems so long ago. Oh wait. But there was a time -- back in 2007 -- when Bryant was ranting about Andrew Bynum and announcing that he both does and does not want a trade, depending on the time of day. Later that year, talks of Kobe-to-Chicago had reportedly progressed to the point of both teams haggling over pieces and Bryant pre-ordering from Gino's East. But Bryant enacted his no-trade clause because Gino's charges for double toppings Luol Deng was included or something.

2. Larry Bird to the Pacers

As a famous story goes, Bird once wished Chuck Person … how shall we put this … "happy holidays." But in 1988, the two nearly became gifts for the other's teams, as Indiana reportedly offered the No. 2 overall pick and Person to Boston in the hopes of bringing Legend back to his home state. Per current GM Danny Ainge, Red Auerbach said no. But hey, at least Bird wasn't regifted to the Spurs or something.

3. Scottie Pippen to the Sonics

One of the more famous would-bes, this one came in June 1994 -- to be exact, sometime between the crack of a Birmingham fungo bat and Michael Jordan shagging the fly ball that resulted. It would have shipped Pippen to Seattle in exchange for Shawn Kemp, but the deal reportedly was sunk by late Sonics owner Barry Ackerley, which, considering what happened later, is the Seattle basketball owner equivalent of giving fresh salmon to a kitten while texting a donation to the Red Cross.

4. Scottie Pippen to Clippers

This one almost happened too.

5. Scottie Pippen to Celtics

Wow. Was Pippen even good?

6. Scottie Pippen to Basketball Joe's

OK, now we're just listing fantasy trades that were vetoed.

6. Allen Iverson to the Pistons

In 2000, the question for The Answer was "Why not trade him to Detroit in a complicated four-team deal?" In fact, Philly owner/Pirate enthusiast Pat Croce reportedly called Iverson, presumably to tell him, "We ARRRRRR going to miss you." (Get it? P.S. What's a pirate's favorite movie rating? PG-13!)

The trade never happened, laying the foundation for Iverson's MVP win and the Sixers' Eastern Conference title the following season. Years later, Iverson would end up on Detroit but tragically was let go just as his soulmates were taking over -- you know, guys who hate practice just as much as he did.

7. Isiah Thomas to the Knicks

Once upon a time, Isiah Thomas chose not to be with the Knicks. In 1994 -- what would be Thomas' final year in the league -- the reeling Pistons almost worked out a deal with New York, one that would send the champion point guard to a contender in his twilight years. Thomas reportedly vetoed it. Years later, he told the Chicago Tribune's Sam Smith that it could have been big for New York.

"I will say we'd have won it in 1994 [against the Rockets]," Thomas said. "In that seventh game, when [John] Starks was shooting the ball like that [2-for-16], I would have said, 'You're not shooting anymore; get the ball to [Patrick] Ewing.' And if he couldn't throw it down there, I would have."

But hey, he made it up to the Knicks later, right?

8. Jackie Moon to the Kentucky Colonels

Page 2 has it on high authority that, after trading the Flint Tropics' washing machine to Kentucky for Ed Monix, Moon wanted to trade himself to the Colonels to reunite with said appliance. Huge loading capacity.

8. Charles Barkley to the Lakers

Done with the 76ers, the outspoken Barkley was being shopped around the league, eventually landing in Phoenix. In 1992 he almost went a little bit farther west, in a suggested three-team trade that would have sent Showtime stalwart James Worthy to Charlotte and Kendall Gill to Philly. But it fell through, hurting the Lakers' on-court product but likely saving them thousands in catering costs and one big f!ght involving the No. 34.

9. Dennis Rodman to the Suns

The wound clown of rebound almost went to Phoenix, but an off-court problem negated the trade … and it wasn't Rodman's. This one involved Detroit trade target Richard Dumas, who was undergoing substance abuse treatment, causing the Pistons to back off. The Spurs got the Worm not long after, leaving the Suns to be bridesmaids in getting the bride.

10. Clyde Drexler to the Sonics


In February 1995, Drexler was dealt to his old college town (Houston) to play with his old college buddy (Hakeem Olajuwon) and help win a title (title) over the Orlando (Magic). But just weeks earlier, a deal sending Drexler from Portland to those dirty, Pacific Northwest-polluting Sonics was very close. The Trail Blazers' target? Gill, who was also linked to Barkley, making him the Zelig of phantom NBA trades. What's that? Who's Zelig? Fine, a more modern reference: He's the Forrest Gump of phantom NBA trades. (See, Zelig was nicer.)


11. Hakeem Olajuwon to the Heat


Kids these days with their trade demands. Back in the glory days of -- hang on. Olajuwon threw one in Houston's direction in 1992? Yep. There were ongoing discussions with the Heat and many players named (DJ Rony Seikaly!) before things calmed down, allowing Olajuwon to win two titles and Seikaly to stay on South Beach before taking his talents to Ibiza.

12. Chris Paul to the Lakers


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i just ran across this my fault if its a repost. but its interesting. imagine shawn kemp and jordan together lol.

46 comments for "Nba Trades That Never Happened"

 6 years ago '11        #2
MakeItHappen456 41 heat pts41
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Iggy and lou williams for carmelo

Starting Five:
Tyson Chandler
Amare Stoudemire
Landry Fields
Andre Iguodala
Lou williams

Bench:
Iman Shumpert
Jermery Lin
JR Smith
Steve Novak

knicks won ?

 6 years ago '05        #3
Dun Language 3971 heat pts3971 OP
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phili wants amare...i'd get it done
 6 years ago '10        #4
SandmanNyC 26 heat pts26
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oh man if isiah came to the knicks, we wudda had a championship in the 90's
 6 years ago '04        #5
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans for Tyson Chandler and Boris Diaw

fu*kin MJ
 6 years ago '05        #6
spacecase 1 heat pts
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Carter almost got traded for Nash and Dirk. How can that not be on the list?
Or Carter for Iverson!
 6 years ago '04        #7
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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^just gonna say... VC
 05-19-2012, 10:00 AM         #8
k3llz 
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Chris Paul to the Lakers

















 6 years ago '05        #9
Rubix 
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Carter for ray allen
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Rockets don't acquire Michael Jordan ... twice

Legend has it that Houston twice shied away from trading Ralph Sampson -- once to Portland for the No. 2 pick in '84 (which could have been Jordan) and again to the Bulls for Jordan after the '85-86 season.

The Rockets, however, stuck with Sampson until 1987. By then, all they could get for him was Joe Barry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd.

We're not making this up, just scratching our heads after finding this Sam Smith story from The Chicago Tribune in 1998
Houston Just Missed Dynasty; Had The Rockets Been Willing To Trade Ralph Sampson, Jordan Could Have Ended Up in Houston
Chicago Tribune -- June 11, 1998
By Sam Smith

Forget the sixth championship.
Michael Jordan should be going for an eighth or ninth title by now. He should be challenging the records of Bill Russell's Boston Celtics.

He should be part of the greatest one-two punch in NBA history . . . with Hakeem Olajuwon.

That was the real mistake of the 1984 draft. It has long been hung on the Portland Trail Blazers for selecting Sam Bowie with the No. 2 pick instead of Jordan.

"[Jordan] was good," Jack Ramsay, the then-Portland coach recalled in a rather obvious description. "I saw him on that [1984] Olympic team. My Portland team, our rookies and free agents, scrimmaged against them. Everybody says now they knew, 'Oh, yeah,' but I'll tell you no one predicted this."

No one predicted Jordan would become arguably the greatest player in NBA history. A shooting guard carrying a team to the NBA title had never happened before and was never even imagined -- especially by the Bulls.

"Michael is a very good offensive player but not an overpowering one," Rod Thorn, then the Bulls' GM, said after drafting Jordan. "He's not the kind of guy who will single-handedly turn around a franchise, and I'd never ask him to do that."

Which may have been the best break the Bulls ever had. Because if the Rockets had an idea -- if anyone had -- some things would not have been the same. Kids would be wearing Rockets jerseys, and Al Capone would still be Chicago's most famous citizen.

The 1984 season was the last in which the NBA used a coin flip between the worst Eastern and Western Conference teams to determine the No. 1 draft pick. The lottery began in 1985 to eliminate the longstanding practice of teams tanking games down the stretch to improve their draft position or get a shot at the coin flip.

The Rockets, who had taken star center Ralph Sampson first in 1983, lost 17 of their last 20 to settle into the worst record in the West.

The Pacers, who had traded their 1984 No. 1 pick to Portland several years before for center Tom Owens, held off the Bulls, who lost 14 of their last 15. Had the Pacers not made the trade, they would have been in position to pick Jordan. And they would not have taken Bowie at No. 2. Portland did, for reasons that have been explained many times.

The Blazers had drafted guard Clyde Drexler the year before. He was nearly as highly regarded as Jordan in college, and veteran shooting guard Jim Paxson was All-NBA Second Team that season.

"You thought [Jordan] was going to be a good player," Ramsay said, "but we were good at 'two' guard. Our scouts thought highly of Bowie. We gave him a physical exam. The doctors said he was fine, but that turned out not to be the case."

Bowie's legs simply failed him. Although he went on to have a reasonably productive NBA career with several teams, he was never more than a solid role player.

If Hakeem Olajuwon was the certain No. 1 pick coming out of the University of Houston after three Final Four appearances, the other given was Portland's desire for a center. The Blazers were a playoff team, but hadn't been in serious contention since Bill Walton's injuries ended the run of Portland's 1977 championship team.

"Jack Ramsay did what he had to do for his team," said Bill Fitch, who was then coaching the Rockets. "Sam Bowie was a special player. I never saw a center pass the ball any better than Sam."

Another possibility, however, was Sampson, the 1984 Rookie of the Year who averaged more than 20 points his first two seasons. What if Houston had selected Olajuwon with the No. 1 pick and then traded Sampson for the No. 2 pick and used it to select Jordan? The Rockets would have had the best inside and outside players of their era.

"We had to have a center," Ramsay said. "We would have done that."

If only people had thought Jordan was better.

"There was a time when we felt there was a chance to make a trade with Chicago with Sampson for Jordan," Fitch said. "But nothing was ever done."

That was after the 1985-86 season. The thinking then was the deal might be too one-sided -- for the Rockets.

Sampson was 7-foot-4 and a star who'd help lead the Rockets to the Finals in 1986, where they lost in six games to one of the great Celtics teams. The belief was Houston would succeed Boston and the Lakers as the NBA's powerhouse.

"Ralph was a big commodity," Fitch recalled, "and Jordan really hadn't come into his own."
How is this not #1? This would have completely changed basketball. Dream and Jordan on the same team.
 6 years ago '05        #11
QualityRecords 8 heat pts
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I remember back in 06 or 07 the Pacers were trying to trade Jermaine O'Neal for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom. That would have been a great trade for Indiana.
 6 years ago '05        #12
Dun Language 3971 heat pts3971 OP
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 QualityRecords said:
I remember back in 06 or 07 the Pacers were trying to trade Jermaine O'Neal for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom. That would have been a great trade for Indiana.
Ha I remember that. Glad Mitch didn't get it done


Where is jo now days
 6 years ago '06        #13
ThaShark316 86 heat pts86
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I always heard it was:

#2 overall
Drexler

for

Sampson
 6 years ago '07        #14
JamcnPrettyboy 96 heat pts96
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a lotta folks don't know about when hakeem demanded a trade and faked an injury. his agent was gonna sue the rockets.

HOUSTON — Hakeem Olajuwon`s agent demanded Friday that the Houston Rockets trade his client and retract statements the team made about Olajuwon during an injury controversy.

Leonard Armato said he has hired a Houston attorney to pursue the matter. ``I have written the Houston Rockets a letter demanding a retraction of what we believe to be defamatory statements made by the Rockets about our client, Hakeem Olajuwon,`` Armato said.

``We have also requested a trade because, due to the Rockets`

accusations, the relationship has deteriorated to the point where there are irreconcilable differences.``

Armato said he has hired Houston attorney Wayne Fisher ``for a complete investigation of Hakeem`s rights and remedies under the circumstances.``

Fisher was not in his office Friday evening, but he earlier told KRIV-TV in Houston that it was ``highly likely`` a lawsuit would be filed soon.

Olajuwon was out for five games this spring with what he said was a left hamstring injury.

After club medical officials evaluated Olajuwon, Rockets management concluded Olajuwon was physically able to play and suspended him.

 6 years ago '07        #15
JamcnPrettyboy 96 heat pts96
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there was also the cp3 to magic trade that almost went down in summer of 2010
 6 years ago '09        #16
BrooklynStiles 82 heat pts82
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Magic reveled he almost became a Knick.
 6 years ago '04        #17
skillahmang 2 heat pts
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olajuwon on the heat

 6 years ago '11        #18
pbballin 20 heat pts20
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This is a draft pick, but I always wondered.....how things would've been IF the pistons drafted Melo instead of Darko that year
 6 years ago '12        #19
AceBoogie 45 heat pts45
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 MakeItHappen456 said:
Iggy and lou williams for carmelo

Starting Five:
Tyson Chandler
Amare Stoudemire
Landry Fields
Andre Iguodala
Lou williams

Bench:
Iman Shumpert
Jermery Lin
JR Smith
Steve Novak

knicks won ?

fields over shumpert?
 6 years ago '10        #20
Smith262 57 heat pts57
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VC For Nash & Dirk
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