Junior Seau Dead in Apparent Su!cide

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 05-02-2012, 08:30 PM         #481
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Bottom Line: suicide is selfish. Nobody can argue against that.
 05-02-2012, 08:31 PM         #482
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Yolo!
 6 years ago '04        #483
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Feel bad that he was in whatever state he may have been in that would cause him to commit suicide. Seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Shot himself in the chest so his head can be used for study of long-term affects of brain trauma in sports.
 05-02-2012, 08:37 PM         #484
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 Perplexity said:
Bottom Line: suicide is selfish. Nobody can argue against that.
He k!lled himself in a way that will help others. Not exactly the most selfish thing to do...
 6 years ago '11        #485
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Another thing people don't just wake up and say I wanna k!ll myself usually they been thinking about this for months or years hoping things will get better
 6 years ago '07        #486
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 Perplexity said:
Bottom Line: suicide is selfish. Nobody can argue against that.
partially true. but what if you have no friends or loved ones. for example a homeless person, if he k!lled himself would you say he's selfish?

also as it's been said countless times in being depressed is like being in a battle with your own brain, sometimes people lose the battle. i can't call them selfish for that.

suicidal/depressed people don't think as clearly as you are thinking right now.
 6 years ago '04        #487
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I don't completely agree with palogee, but I see where he's coming from and I'm not mad at him at all for it.

It's a shame that Seau is gone, but I'm not shedding a tear anytime soon. He wanted to take his life, I'm not gonna feel bad one lick. I'd be a lot more affected if he died a natural death.

I think it was a selfish move honestly. There are rare justifications for suicide, this not being one of them.

Depression is not a good enough excuse either, ESPECIALLY if you have loved ones and family around you. With all the medications, all the available therapy, depression can be fought. Everyone goes through the occasional depression once in a while (obviously not as serious as Seau did), k!lling yourself is just a selfish solution.
 6 years ago '04        #488
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 RYLNYC said:
I don't completely agree with palogee, but I see where he's coming from and I'm not mad at him at all for it.

It's a shame that Seau is gone, but I'm not shedding a tear anytime soon. He wanted to take his life, I'm not gonna feel bad one lick. I'd be a lot more affected if he died a natural death.

I think it was a selfish move honestly. There are rare justifications for suicide, this not being one of them.

Depression is not a good enough excuse either, ESPECIALLY if you have loved ones and family around you. With all the medications, all the available therapy, depression can be fought. Everyone goes through the occasional depression once in a while (obviously not as serious as Seau did), k!lling yourself is just a selfish solution.
there is a such thing as chronic depression. there is a possibility of a neurological problem that induced him to do what he did. hell he could have had some slight brain damage. and no medications, and therapy only very rarely work to cure neurological disorders. the brain doesnt regenerate or cure itself. all of those things are possible, plus we dont know waht substances he continually put in his body over the course of a career. how can you dare sit here and say what is and what isnt justification for suicide, especially knowing that football players but their bodies through so much trauma. THAT is selfish if anything else, or not even allowing for the possibility of a physical cause. not only could he have been dealing with brain damage induced depression, he could be dealing with stressful sh*t in his personal life, like that combined with mid life crisis, trying to find a post football identity, which is VERY hard for a lot of athletes, who have built their entire being on playing a game for the majority of thier lives. etc. etc. etc. one member on here talked about how one of his kids didnt like him. who knows if something like that couldnt affect him, esp in his post football days when he has more time to spend with his family. he could have realized a lotta past uncorrectable mistakes, along with what ever was wrong. it could have been a combo of all of that.

and again, depressed people can sometimes be violent, and he could have harmed someone else, someone close to him, like his wife and/or kids. only he knows what impulses he had and im sure that factored into his decision. some of yall really cant see outside of yourselves. whats worse, a lot of yall probably have never picked up a reputable book on the brain and how it works. if everybody thought like yall, there would be no way for these current players to know if they are at risk for something after football.he isnt the first football guy to commit suicide, and he might no be the last. thats the problem with gross individualism and being judgemental, it keeps you tunnel visioned and from seeing the bigger picture


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 05-02-2012, 09:20 PM         #489
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Junior Seau's passing has really torn me up today. Being a kid from Oceanside and in the town at the time of him getting drafted by the Chargers, San Diego was buzzing crazy. I looked right at the 49ers stuff I was wearing and dropped it just like it was nothing. An Oceanside Pirate turned USC Trojan turned San Diego Charger? That's all it took. I didn't know jack sh*t about the Chargers before that but I dedicated myself to following the team off #55 alone.

When he left the team I felt betrayed in a way but I couldn't hate him. I still watched him. When he came back for "The Graduation" I was so happy and inspired by his speech he gave then days later I was completely weirded out and mad that he signed with the Patriots.

All in all, he represented strength to me. He seemed like one of the most solid personalities on the planet. To hear his life came to such an end almost feels like he betrayed me. I'm confused. I'm hurt. This isn't how you graduate, this is dropping out man. I always felt that suicide is a quitter's move and that still rings true, but I seriously have to wonder what he was going through. What was he feeling at the time? Was anybody aware he was feeling depressed or what?

I guess I'll never know but I'm shocked to say the least and I've been wiping my eyes alot today. Dude was my childhood idol and forged my fanhood into what it is now. Oceanside will always love Junior. San Diego as whole will always love him. I just wish somebody was there to help him if he was really going through something. Being the person he was though, he never showed his pain.


f!ght On, Junior.

Trojan For Life.......And death
 6 years ago '06        #490
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 jplaydadon said:
there is a such thing as chronic depression. there is a possibility of a neurological problem that induced him to do what he did. hell he could have had some slight brain damage. and no medications, and therapy only very rarely work to cure neurological disorders. the brain doesnt regenerate or cure itself. all of those things are possible, plus we dont know waht substances he continually put in his body over the course of a career. how can you dare sit here and say what is and what isnt justification for suicide, especially knowing that football players but their bodies through so much trauma. THAT is selfish if anything else, or not even allowing for the possibility of a physical cause. not only could he have been dealing with brain damage induced depression, he could be dealing with stressful sh*t in his personal life, like that combined with mid life crisis, trying to find a post football identity, which is VERY hard for a lot of athletes, who have built their entire being on playing a game for the majority of thier lives. etc. etc. etc. one member on here talked about how one of his kids didnt like him. who knows if something like that couldnt affect him, esp in his post football days when he has more time to spend with his family. he could have realized a lotta past uncorrectable mistakes, along with what ever was wrong. it could have been a combo of all of that.

and again, depressed people can sometimes be violent, and he could have harmed someone else, someone close to him, like his wife and/or kids. only he knows what impulses he had and im sure that factored into his decision. some of yall really cant see outside of yourselves. whats worse, a lot of yall probably have never picked up a reputable book on the brain and how it works. if everybody thought like yall, there would be no way for these current players to know if they are at risk for something after football.he isnt the first football guy to commit suicide, and he might no be the last. thats the problem with gross individualism and being judgemental, it keeps you tunnel visioned and from seeing the bigger picture
THIS.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jplaydadon again.
 05-02-2012, 09:30 PM         #491
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 palogee said:

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thats low
 6 years ago '05        #492
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" bodies get dropped from body shots cause I could box no need for Glocks or karate chops"
 6 years ago '04        #493
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You bi*ch a.ss f*ggots who rip people for k!lling themselves are fu*ked. Dude was ill and needed help.
 6 years ago '10        #494
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They are 28 pages here. Obviously...as proven by some quotes...the argument is about feeling sorry for people committing suicide

Honestly...based on my own experience....I've found that there's no point in arguing with people like that endlessly. These are ignorant...narrow minded snobs who see the world as black and white and in absolutes. I myself have been depressed before...it was not something I could just turn off. I didn't go as far as k!lling myself or doing anything crazy...but it definitely put thoughts in my head that are 1000x the opposite of how I feel

Mental conditions are real. Depression is real. I'm not even gonna bother cursing out the ignorant fcks on here too much...I just hope none of your family members or close friends ever get depressed
 6 years ago '10        #495
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This is also why the NFL cares about concussions and helmet safety...btw. This is the 3rd or 4th suicide by NFL players
 6 years ago '08        #496
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y is everybody so surprised, this dude tried to drive himself off a cliff with the same intent...dont give a fu*k wht he said about it...fell asleep my a.ss...dude was suicidal...sad that it happened, but im not surprised.
 05-02-2012, 10:12 PM         #497
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 palogee said:

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Not cool
 NYGiantsHUSTLER said:
And we have a winner for biggest scum bag on boxden... cant believe you took the time out of your day to get that pic and post it here... you need attention that badly?? well here ya go, enjoy
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 6 years ago '10        #498
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 jplaydadon said:
there is a such thing as chronic depression. there is a possibility of a neurological problem that induced him to do what he did. hell he could have had some slight brain damage. and no medications, and therapy only very rarely work to cure neurological disorders. the brain doesnt regenerate or cure itself. all of those things are possible, plus we dont know waht substances he continually put in his body over the course of a career. how can you dare sit here and say what is and what isnt justification for suicide, especially knowing that football players but their bodies through so much trauma. THAT is selfish if anything else, or not even allowing for the possibility of a physical cause. not only could he have been dealing with brain damage induced depression, he could be dealing with stressful sh*t in his personal life, like that combined with mid life crisis, trying to find a post football identity, which is VERY hard for a lot of athletes, who have built their entire being on playing a game for the majority of thier lives. etc. etc. etc. one member on here talked about how one of his kids didnt like him. who knows if something like that couldnt affect him, esp in his post football days when he has more time to spend with his family. he could have realized a lotta past uncorrectable mistakes, along with what ever was wrong. it could have been a combo of all of that.

and again, depressed people can sometimes be violent, and he could have harmed someone else, someone close to him, like his wife and/or kids. only he knows what impulses he had and im sure that factored into his decision. some of yall really cant see outside of yourselves. whats worse, a lot of yall probably have never picked up a reputable book on the brain and how it works. if everybody thought like yall, there would be no way for these current players to know if they are at risk for something after football.he isnt the first football guy to commit suicide, and he might no be the last. thats the problem with gross individualism and being judgemental, it keeps you tunnel visioned and from seeing the bigger picture
On a forum full of ignorant, selfish, and narrow minded sad excuses for human beings...thank you sir for proving that there are indeed some reasonable intelligent people on here
 6 years ago '10        #499
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RIP big homie...:sad2:
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RIP, but if you take yourself out no fu*ks given!
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