Reggie Miller blasts LeBron James for seeking advice

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Reggie is right. 96 50.53%
Reggie should shut the fuck up. 75 39.47%
He has key points, but cmon son. 19 10.00%
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 05-02-2012, 11:28 AM         #221
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 SeaJaiye said:
this thread needs to die. a fluke hall of famer talking down to a future first ballot


Lebron would k!ll to be that clutch.
 6 years ago '07        #222
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Another question... Say he wins a ring this year, will guys say "oh it's only cause he seeked advice"???


You guys saying no other stars ever seeked advice or talked to past greats have proof that they didn't? Or are y'all just saying that cause no ever brought it up? The only reason it's a problem now is because it was Lebron seeking advice and everything he does is put under a microscope...

How come nobody talked bad on Garnett when he sought advice from Bill Russell? They even had clips from some of their discussion shown during the Finals...

And all these ringless players either are lying to y'all or just plain too egotistical if they say they would stay wit a losing team instead of leaving in their prime if they could do it over again...

You really gonna think they're gonna admit that they should've left now that their careers are over and ain't nothing they can do to change it? Garnett said it after getting his first ring that he wish he should've left earlier.
 05-02-2012, 11:29 AM         #223
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 Smuggy said:


Lebron would k!ll to be that clutch.
im sure he would k!ll for all those first round sweeps too
 6 years ago '07        #224
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 Smuggy said:
If you don't have it by now, you don't have it.
And that means Reggie didn't have it right? So why does his opinion matter... ur points are lame dude, u aren't making any sense...
 05-02-2012, 11:34 AM         #225
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 SeaJaiye said:
im sure he would k!ll for all those first round sweeps too
How many times did Miller give up and stop playing to potential in the playoffs?
 6 years ago '07        #226
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 Smuggy said:
A ring isn't required to speak truth. Lames use lame arguments though so...
Who said anything about speaking truth? U said Lebron should've asked Reggie about how to finish, but this is about winning rings so again why would he need to speak to Reggie? Does Reggie have a ring? No so again rings have everything to do wit this. He didn't go out just seeking truth, he wants advice on how to accomplish something Reggie couldn't do. So no need to speak to him...
 05-02-2012, 11:39 AM         #227
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 Smuggy said:
How many times did Miller give up and stop playing to potential in the playoffs?
how bout when he went 1 for 16 for 7 points in the finals? stop it, bron is more accomplished/successful than reggie and is a better player. they both have no rings, but bron is about to change that this june. this is disrespectful to lebron...........reggie wont be able to talk down to him like this anymore
 05-02-2012, 11:39 AM         #228
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 capone3pbs said:
And that means Reggie didn't have it right? So why does his opinion matter... ur points are lame dude, u aren't making any sense...
Attacking Miller's game doesn't change the fact that he spoke truth. Do you know what a fallacy is?
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.


You're welcome lame.
 05-02-2012, 11:42 AM         #229
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 capone3pbs said:
Who said anything about speaking truth? U said Lebron should've asked Reggie about how to finish, but this is about winning rings so again why would he need to speak to Reggie?
wtf kind of advice does he expect from ring recipients? "Play hard" and "don't give up"? Please... talk to people who excel where you struggle, namely a clutch man like Miller. Talking to people who are great at your weaknesses as a player will help you win a ring. Am I talking to 3 year olds?
 05-02-2012, 11:43 AM         #230
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 SeaJaiye said:
how bout when he went 1 for 16 for 7 points in the finals? stop it, bron is more accomplished/successful than reggie and is a better player. they both have no rings, but bron is about to change that this june. this is disrespectful to lebron...........reggie wont be able to talk down to him like this anymore
Reg spoke truth and bron fans are butt hurt, so you're going after Miller. Classic argument fallacy.
 05-02-2012, 11:44 AM         #231
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reggie was a great SHOOTER, that's why he was clutch. he doesn't/didn't have the jordan/kobe mindset like people think. he could just shoot. thats why guys like steve kerr/ray allen, etc. are considered clutch.

lebron isn't a great shooter, thats why he struggles in late game..............he doesnt need to ask reggie for any advice about anything.

 Smuggy said:
Reg spoke truth and bron fans are butt hurt, so you're going after Miller. Classic argument fallacy.
you asked if he ever gave up or didnt play to his potential. is his potential going 1 for 16 for 7 points on the biggest stage??
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 Smuggy said:
wtf kind of advice does he expect from ring recipients? "Play hard" and "don't give up"? Please... talk to people who excel where you struggle, namely a clutch man like Miller. Talking to people who are great at your weaknesses as a player will help you win a ring. Am I talking to 3 year olds?
Jerry west was clutch.....1-9.
 05-02-2012, 11:47 AM         #233
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 capone3pbs said:
Another question... Say he wins a ring this year, will guys say "oh it's only cause he seeked advice"???
No. They won't even say he won because he *sought advice. I love Bron, but he opens himself up to criticism with the unnecessary sh*t he does. This case is mild, but no one with his size and athleticism should be flopping around the court for cheap gains. Take that crap out of your game first before you decide to approach GREATS who got there without the cheapness.
 05-02-2012, 11:49 AM         #234
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 SeaJaiye said:
reggie was a great SHOOTER, that's why he was clutch. he doesn't/didn't have the jordan/kobe mindset like people think. he could just shoot. thats why guys like steve kerr/ray allen, etc. are considered clutch.

lebron isn't a great shooter, thats why he struggles in late game..............he doesnt need to ask reggie for any advice about anything.
Sure he does. You're acting like he has to stay outside the paint to be clutch. He doesn't even charge the paint... he passes. He lacks that confidence to be a clutch player. Miller had it... shooter or not. Approach a great like Miller to improve that quality you lack.
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 Smuggy said:
Attacking Miller's game doesn't change the fact that he spoke truth. Do you know what a fallacy is?
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.


You're welcome lame.
Speak the truth on wat??? Who is he to say wat another person is doing is wrong? It's his OPINION on a subject that doesn't make it fact just because that's how he feels about it? I rather hear a champion say "No seeking advice is wrong, I didn't need it." I don't care to hear from someone who hasn't won a ring cause obviously everything they tried to do to win a ring didn't work so maybe Reggie should've seeked advice instead of doing wat he thinks Lebron should do and maybe he would have a ring...

Then you say attacking his game like u just didn't attack Lebron's game... you said Lebron doesn't have IT and I replied by saying I guess Reggie doesn't have IT either... so am I wrong? You don't even have an idea about wat u arguing... a fallacy about wat? U are a fu*king idiot dude
 05-02-2012, 11:51 AM         #236
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 SeaJaiye said:
you asked if he ever gave up or didnt play to his potential. is his potential going 1 for 16 for 7 points on the biggest stage??
Having a bad game and straight giving up on the biggest stage are two different things.


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 05-02-2012, 11:54 AM         #237
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 Smuggy said:
Having a bad game and straight giving up on the biggest stage are two different things.

ohhhh so 27, 19, 10 is giving up now that cavs team wasnt winning anything with mo williams as ur 2nd best player. all the guys starting on that team were good cuz of lebron. theyre not starting on the teams they're on now...........lebron made them who they are.

he got out of that bad situation and went to miami and now he's in a great place to win rings quickly..........
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goto 10:00 mark it's always good to learn from the ones before you

with that said Kobe>>>>>>>
 05-02-2012, 11:55 AM         #239
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 capone3pbs said:
Speak the truth on wat??? Who is he to say wat another person is doing is wrong?
Address me when you start reading. It doesn't matter who he is... what greats did Jordan seek to win titles? How 'bout Shaq? Dirk? WADE? Buckle down and play hard dude. Stop worrying about flopping at every chance possible and focus on putting up points.
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 Smuggy said:
wtf kind of advice does he expect from ring recipients? "Play hard" and "don't give up"? Please... talk to people who excel where you struggle, namely a clutch man like Miller. Talking to people who are great at your weaknesses as a player will help you win a ring. Am I talking to 3 year olds?
And that's the point!!! You don't know wat they told him! Again he's not the first to seek advice so why attack him for doing it? U are a fu*king joke... you don't know wat he got out the convo talking wit greats... again why wasn't Garnett criticized for talking to Russell? Garnett was still a top player in the league and a mvp award winner as well so why is it different for him?
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