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 5 years ago '04        #661
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I don't think he'd get this wrong; I think he got distracted. In one of the earlier scripts there was a f!ght scene we didn't end up filming. But the hit wasn't well scouted-out, and Owen wasn't on his game. He was thinking about other things, and the beautiful irony is that discovering how his life would turn out ended up k!lling him.

dammit man..I wanted to see his execution.

 5 years ago '05        #662
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 Jacc Blacc said:
luciano already told masseria knuck was coming for his head but luciano whispered something into masseria's ear, imo someone told luciano what was gonna happen, probably not thinking luciano would ever tell masseria but he did


outside of the steam room you had all those dudes planning sh*t, they knew owen was coming, there would be no point for luciano to whisper something he already said out loud to masseria
This and the fact it left the viewers not knowing added more power to the owen dead scene.
 5 years ago '04        #663
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Where is the dude who went with Owen?! i think he was a Spy!
 11-21-2012, 08:09 AM         #664
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probably the best show ive ever seen, maybe tying with game of thrones

wonder what cliffhanger is gonna be left for us

end of the season always goes out with a bang


- was pissed off about owen, had that swag where he seemed untouchable/ was gonna be a long term character
 5 years ago '09        #665
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 chaos2 said:
Where is the dude who went with Owen?! i think he was a Spy!
agreed......no way he wasnt involved or masseria would have over night shipped his a.ss too
 5 years ago '04        #666
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Did y'all not read the interview I posted, the actor who played Owen essentially tells how he got knocked off. Lack of focus.
 5 years ago '04        #667
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 C.R.I.P. said:
Did y'all not read the interview I posted, the actor who played Owen essentially tells how he got knocked off. Lack of focus.
if they didnt show it then it didnt happen

they left no indication in what they showed that he failed because of lack of focus
 5 years ago '04        #668
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Here's a thought

What if Nucky masterminded Owen's death.. would you put it past him? What if Nucky wanted Owen and partner to get caught and k!lled?? What would he stand to gain? What if Nuck told Lucky and Myer 'im sending these 2 guys down to k!ll Masseria and one of them is fu*king my wife. I want you to use this intel to get in with Masseria so I can k!ll him properly and I will give you the financial backing/heroin/equity you need to become a real player' Nuck isn't stupid he knows Masseria is protected.. see how many soldiers he had with him playing Bocci? He knew sending Owen and one other dude would be a fools errand, he said it himself 'i just thought the operation would be bigger than this' but he knew, he knew he could talk them into it. Nuck told Lucky to give owen up to gain Joe Masseria's trust, to get in the inner circle so he could get intel for a real chance to k!ll him. Maybe not even k!ll Joe, maybe k!ll Gyp Rossetti and make a true with Masseria.

You think Nucky didn't know about Owen and his wife? Owen said it himself about the butler when he said 'he sees more than you think'. if we were to run with my theory, the butler tipped off Nucky, Nucky set up Owen to get Lucky and Myer in the Masseria circle of trust in the hopes that Lucky will provide the intel for Chalkys Army to take out the Boss of all Bosses. Lucky and Meyer then get the opportunity the piece of the action that Nucky promised in his meeting when all the top shotters came to the ritz last week.

Thoughts?

We already know Lucky and crew are entrepreneurs looking to make a buck where they can. What if Nucky promised them the financial backing they're looking for by getting in with Joe Masseria?
 5 years ago '06        #669
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 scandalous42 said:
Here's a thought

What if Nucky masterminded Owen's death.. would you put it past him? What if Nucky wanted Owen and partner to get caught and k!lled?? What would he stand to gain? What if Nuck told Lucky and Myer 'im sending these 2 guys down to k!ll Masseria and one of them is fu*king my wife. I want you to use this intel to get in with Masseria so I can k!ll him properly and I will give you the financial backing/heroin/equity you need to become a real player' Nuck isn't stupid he knows Masseria is protected.. see how many soldiers he had with him playing Bocci? He knew sending Owen and one other dude would be a fools errand, he said it himself 'i just thought the operation would be bigger than this' but he knew, he knew he could talk them into it. Nuck told Lucky to give owen up to gain Joe Masseria's trust, to get in the inner circle so he could get intel for a real chance to k!ll him. Maybe not even k!ll Joe, maybe k!ll Gyp Rossetti and make a true with Masseria.

You think Nucky didn't know about Owen and his wife? Owen said it himself about the butler when he said 'he sees more than you think'. if we were to run with my theory, the butler tipped off Nucky, Nucky set up Owen to get Lucky and Myer in the Masseria circle of trust in the hopes that Lucky will provide the intel for Chalkys Army to take out the Boss of all Bosses. Lucky and Meyer then get the opportunity the piece of the action that Nucky promised in his meeting when all the top shotters came to the ritz last week.

Thoughts?

We already know Lucky and crew are entrepreneurs looking to make a buck where they can. What if Nucky promised them the financial backing they're looking for by getting in with Joe Masseria?


Good fu*king post.

Funnily enough, my girl said Nuck was setting Owen up even before he arrived back in a crate (it's funny because she usually sucks at calling stuff). She just had it down to Nucky knowing about the affair though and wanting to get revenge, so sending him on a suicide mission. I thought about it but wondered why he'd bother. It was a bit too elaborate and long winded for a revenge tip. He could have just spared himself the hassle and offed Owen personally, that and he's already dangerously low on man power. So why k!ll your right hand man? At least keep him around until the war's over, then deal with him.

Reading your post, however, your idea certainly seems viable, a good one, and is definitely the sort of ruthless cunning we know Nucky's capable of.

Even if you take out the part of him knowing about the affair (his reaction to Margaret's reaction after they found Owen seemed like genuine surprise to me...like "Why are you so upset? He was only my bodyguard" kind of thing), I still think he'd be ruthless enough to sacrifice one of his own men to put that sort of plot in motion. He knew how Owen liked to do things, on the quiet, on his own, and so knew he wouldn't say no to the attempted hit. He promises Lucky & Meyer the financial backing AR wouldn't give them if they work with him on getting rid of Joe and Gyp and so on and so on.

Again, good post. Props.
 5 years ago '09        #670
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 scandalous42 said:
Here's a thought

What if Nucky masterminded Owen's death.. would you put it past him? What if Nucky wanted Owen and partner to get caught and k!lled?? What would he stand to gain? What if Nuck told Lucky and Myer 'im sending these 2 guys down to k!ll Masseria and one of them is fu*king my wife. ?
if knucky knew then he wouldnt have looked so surprise by margaret's reaction towards owen's death

that sh*t caught knucky off guard, any man with half a brain would feel margaret and owen had something going on after she cried the way she did
 5 years ago '09        #671
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 skillahmang said:


he was like the Furio from Sopranos. fu*king with a man's wife.

Furio didn't fu*k Carmela, but he tried to k!ll Tony (he changed his mind not to k!ll Tony asap)
 5 years ago '05        #672
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 scandalous42 said:
Here's a thought

What if Nucky masterminded Owen's death.. would you put it past him? What if Nucky wanted Owen and partner to get caught and k!lled?? What would he stand to gain? What if Nuck told Lucky and Myer 'im sending these 2 guys down to k!ll Masseria and one of them is fu*king my wife. I want you to use this intel to get in with Masseria so I can k!ll him properly and I will give you the financial backing/heroin/equity you need to become a real player' Nuck isn't stupid he knows Masseria is protected.. see how many soldiers he had with him playing Bocci? He knew sending Owen and one other dude would be a fools errand, he said it himself 'i just thought the operation would be bigger than this' but he knew, he knew he could talk them into it. Nuck told Lucky to give owen up to gain Joe Masseria's trust, to get in the inner circle so he could get intel for a real chance to k!ll him. Maybe not even k!ll Joe, maybe k!ll Gyp Rossetti and make a true with Masseria.

You think Nucky didn't know about Owen and his wife? Owen said it himself about the butler when he said 'he sees more than you think'. if we were to run with my theory, the butler tipped off Nucky, Nucky set up Owen to get Lucky and Myer in the Masseria circle of trust in the hopes that Lucky will provide the intel for Chalkys Army to take out the Boss of all Bosses. Lucky and Meyer then get the opportunity the piece of the action that Nucky promised in his meeting when all the top shotters came to the ritz last week.

Thoughts?

We already know Lucky and crew are entrepreneurs looking to make a buck where they can. What if Nucky promised them the financial backing they're looking for by getting in with Joe Masseria?

Was just about to sh*t all over your post but then i actually read it! Great fu*king perspective.

Still dont think your right though as Luciano went to rothstein first so that kind of decredits your theory
 5 years ago '07        #673
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slater got what he had coming...nucky put two and two together and i hope he tax margaret's a.ss
 5 years ago '05        #674
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 Jacc Blacc said:
if knucky knew then he wouldnt have looked so surprise by margaret's reaction towards owen's death

that sh*t caught knucky off guard, any man with half a brain would feel margaret and owen had something going on after she cried the way she did
yeh you could tell he was shocked at the way she reacted, that theory that was post is nonsense but who knows
 5 years ago '04        #675
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lol also why would Nucky look so shocked if he knew he set Owen up.
 5 years ago '11        #676
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maybe he ain't know the extent of their relationship bi*ch acted like Teddy was in that box...you'd think the smut could've at least waited til she got alone in a bathroom or something.
 5 years ago '12        #677
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 wjcorner said:
maybe he ain't know the extent of their relationship bi*ch acted like Teddy was in that box...you'd think the smut could've at least waited til she got alone in a bathroom or something.
Real sh*t
 5 years ago '04        #678
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 scandalous42 said:
Here's a thought

What if Nucky masterminded Owen's death.. would you put it past him? What if Nucky wanted Owen and partner to get caught and k!lled?? What would he stand to gain? What if Nuck told Lucky and Myer 'im sending these 2 guys down to k!ll Masseria and one of them is fu*king my wife. I want you to use this intel to get in with Masseria so I can k!ll him properly and I will give you the financial backing/heroin/equity you need to become a real player' Nuck isn't stupid he knows Masseria is protected.. see how many soldiers he had with him playing Bocci? He knew sending Owen and one other dude would be a fools errand, he said it himself 'i just thought the operation would be bigger than this' but he knew, he knew he could talk them into it. Nuck told Lucky to give owen up to gain Joe Masseria's trust, to get in the inner circle so he could get intel for a real chance to k!ll him. Maybe not even k!ll Joe, maybe k!ll Gyp Rossetti and make a true with Masseria.

You think Nucky didn't know about Owen and his wife? Owen said it himself about the butler when he said 'he sees more than you think'. if we were to run with my theory, the butler tipped off Nucky, Nucky set up Owen to get Lucky and Myer in the Masseria circle of trust in the hopes that Lucky will provide the intel for Chalkys Army to take out the Boss of all Bosses. Lucky and Meyer then get the opportunity the piece of the action that Nucky promised in his meeting when all the top shotters came to the ritz last week.

Thoughts?

We already know Lucky and crew are entrepreneurs looking to make a buck where they can. What if Nucky promised them the financial backing they're looking for by getting in with Joe Masseria?
check my earlier post i think nucky set him up


we all know what happens in history to joe arnold and lucky etc
 5 years ago '06        #679
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 CaLLaHaN said:
chalky is omar great ancestor...
 5 years ago '04        #680
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I tried to tell yall, Luciano and Lansky knew nothing..




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