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 04-22-2012, 05:50 PM         #41
DJScribbles  OP
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good luck with no college degree.
 6 years ago '11        #42
NateRight 8 heat pts
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 meercy said:
^^untill they hit you with. you need 1-2 or 2-3 yrs of expierience....
thats what you get the degree for. to do & start learning the job..smh...

im not saying a degree is worthless but they sure make it hard after it...
as a software engineering student i know lots of peers a year ahead of me who had job offers before they graduated. Banks will hire students right out of college with economics and mathematics degrees. Most of the 1% went to college and worked their a.ss off. Hell most of the people who work their a.ss of in college getting straight A's going for some hard degrees leave college and immediately get a $65,000 a year job. It's cool if you can make hella money by not going to college but it's only a small percentage that can actually do it
 6 years ago '08        #43
Chief Dee 6 heat pts
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College isnt for everyone, but it is for SOME. And Im part of that some. Education aside, college has exposed me to people and cultures I had no previous contact with. Education aside, without college, I'd probably be a different person on a social level. I didnt have a single non-black or latino friend before college. So there are benefits to college that go beyond the degrees and sh*t.
 6 years ago '04        #44
skillahmang 2 heat pts
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great read as i study for my finals this week....'


 6 years ago '05        #45
ChickzNKickz 100 heat pts100
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How about you name the college drop outs that are currently working jobs they said they never would..
 6 years ago '06        #46
marcusaka50 58 heat pts58
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you can't say college is not needed but you don't need college to be successful.


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 6 years ago '11        #47
Kingpin 313 104 heat pts104
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Look at the schools they dropped out of its not like they was in community college






But you don't need college to be successful
 6 years ago '06        #48
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 sandninja said:
not all these ppl dropped out, and then became rich. most of them were on such a fast pace to becoming rich WHILE still in college that they HAD to drop out to make time for their money-making schemes
this...........
 6 years ago '10        #49
illement 10 heat pts10
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You don't necessarily need a college degree to make money, but you do need an education to succeed in life. These guys dropped out of school, sure.... But.... They were educated geniuses. Meaning they taught themselves into success. There's a difference people. Most Rappers, athletes, and celebrities are rich, but uneducated. Care to go against them odds?
 04-22-2012, 06:33 PM         #50
deLeet  OP
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With the internet you really don't need it. Self taught and experience > College
 04-22-2012, 06:40 PM         #51
cheguevara  OP
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those were different times though...where college wasnt that big of a deal...n*ggas was dropping at age 10 like it was nothing. nobody even noticed.


do that sh*t now... "that dumb a.ss n*gga dropped out of the 5th grade"
 6 years ago '07        #52
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 meercy said:
^^untill they hit you with. you need 1-2 or 2-3 yrs of expierience....
thats what you get the degree for. to do & start learning the job..smh...

im not saying a degree is worthless but they sure make it hard after it...
 6 years ago '07        #53
st21 1237 heat pts1237
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 6 years ago '10        #54
Ciggavelli 35 heat pts35
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 iThink said:
don't let anybody tell you it's worthless





fu*k education pessimists. there ain't a damn thing wrong with getting your degree and if anyone says otherwise fu*k em.

i'll have my master's degree soon and i don't regret a single class up to this point. it's going to help me tremendously out there.
You're in for a rude awakening. I have my master's and I am a semester away from my PhD. A master's degree is worthless until 10 years down the line. All companies care about is experience. Yeah, the advanced degree with help out when you are trying to get promoted, but it will not help you get a job. I regret getting my Master's and PhD. It was a waste of time. I should have been working, gaining better work experience (not some bullsh*t research a.ssociate job) and making more money.

However, getting a BA is not a waste of time. You need a 4year degree to get pretty much any "good" job
 6 years ago '10        #55
Ciggavelli 35 heat pts35
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 NateRight said:
as a software engineering student i know lots of peers a year ahead of me who had job offers before they graduated. Banks will hire students right out of college with economics and mathematics degrees. Most of the 1% went to college and worked their a.ss off. Hell most of the people who work their a.ss of in college getting straight A's going for some hard degrees leave college and immediately get a $65,000 a year job. It's cool if you can make hella money by not going to college but it's only a small percentage that can actually do it
Man, you're really wrong here:




50% of graduates are jobless/underemployed and have a ton of debt.


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 6 years ago '11        #56
WillieMaysHayes 5 heat pts
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lol @ dropping out of harvard.

poor guy.
 6 years ago '05        #57
Stuart Scott 200 heat pts200
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Good responses. Good discussion.
 04-22-2012, 07:06 PM         #58
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didnt Einstein basically rewrite his field of science. how can you do good at school when you dont agree with what they want you to say the answer is. but then again all those people are innovators. so you cant teach them what they havnt invented yet.
 6 years ago '09        #59
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i mean if your in school and meet the right people use your resources
 6 years ago '05        #60
pnoi89 11 heat pts11
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 meercy said:
^^untill they hit you with. you need 1-2 or 2-3 yrs of expierience....
thats what you get the degree for. to do & start learning the job..smh...

im not saying a degree is worthless but they sure make it hard after it...
Others have already covered it, but I'll just reiterate.

I agree that a degree is JUST a degree. But depending on what you're going into, you'll definitely need the strong theoretical foundation if you're going into STEM. So regardless, it's an absolute minimum (most of the time. There are obviously exceptions though).

Employers look for MORE than just your degree and GPA. That's what the huge majority of students FAIL to realize and thus, they're stuck wondering why they can't find any jobs.

Beyond the degree:

1. Related/relevant experience
2. Going out to fairs/symposiums and speaking to reps (Networking)

Pretty much, with a STEM degree at least, you show employers you're willing to put the 20/80 rule into play (20% of the employers do 80% of the work), you'll easily get offers.

Hell, just going to the National Space Symposium a couple of days ago, I've already made connects with at least 5 different engineers, hiring managers, etc. I guess maybe my college experience was a good one compared to the horror stories I'm hearing these days....
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