The Reason Why The Heat Don't Have That Championship Look (Good Read)

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 6 years ago '10        #81
Space 2020 14 heat pts14
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 ondatpurple said:
you a f*ggit eat a d!ck
All you heat motherfu*kers troll every nba thread #Trustory
 6 years ago '10        #82
Ant McQueen 16 heat pts16
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 EnlightenMe said:
no i didn't switch the argument. i talked about volume in my last post and in all of my posts. i mentioned efficiency cause it was worth noting.




you didn't make me angry and i didn't even give the perception i was, i was just trying to make sure you saw my post cause i wanted you to respond to it.

%time isn't a function of time. it's a function of possessions.

%Time = (# of Possessions used in a specific situation)/(Total # of Possessions used overall)
it's an a.ssumption of time based on possessions, not time itself like you claim.


synergy doesn't have people with stopwatches timing how long someone was in the post. i was right in how i calculated it as possessions in my last post. i don't know exactly what the qualifiers are for possessions exactly but i'll find out and update. i'm guessing possessions it's a function of field goal attempts plus turnovers, a.ssists, etc. what's not apparent is how they count plays in your table. i don't know if they'd even count dunks and layups. and if they do, do they differentiate between ones that occur in the half court on a drive starting from the perimeter or a fastbreak as opposed to one that results from posting a defender in the post? how far from the basket do they count post plays? i just have a feeling they take data from shot charts and plug the numbers but who knows. these things are important to know cause it could skew numbers in favor of certain types of players. i'll try to update as soon as i find out.

in this post specifically, i'm not even arguing that lebron and wade do or don't spend alot of time in the post in comparison to other players relative (although i don't see that they do watching the game) but i'm only debating the validity of the table itself that you sent as "proof". just because someone has more possessions in the post doesn't mean they are in the post more. i mean look at this example for dwight:
season %time poss ppp fgm/a
04-05 30.7 277 0.68 77/199
05-06 46.6 601 0.70 162/400
06-07 52.0 762 0.78 217/509
07-08 52.9 841 0.87 249/541
08-09 58.3 925 0.87 275/589

dwight didn't spend more time in the post over the years, he just became more active. in general, i think stats are too flawed and they paint a false picture of what's happening, especially in team sports.

lastly i want to make a quick distinction. i think there is a difference between being able to score in the post and having post game. for example scoring in the post as a result of a screen or cutting to the basket (like rip hamilton use to do alot of in detroit, although he did have post game too) is different from actually having "post game". just saying.
I can definitely agree with that. The post game is about fundamentals and craftiness. A lot of big men nowadays aren't too fundamentally sound.
 6 years ago '10        #83
Fly Elroy 321 heat pts321 OP
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 Space 2020 said:
All you heat motherfu*kers troll every nba thread #Trustory
so what bi*ch?

if I jump off a building you gotta jump off one too?
 6 years ago '10        #84
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 ondatpurple said:
so what bi*ch?

if I jump off a building you gotta jump off one too?
I don't give a damn it's all entertainment to me

But your obviously pissy like a lil girl so Ill let you whine in the corner
 6 years ago '05        #85
MysticKJ 28 heat pts28
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 TIP2009 said:
heat have lebron, heat therefore cannot have championship look....

get Derek Rose, you'll get that look in 3 seconds...yup.;...
 6 years ago '10        #86
Fly Elroy 321 heat pts321 OP
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 Space 2020 said:
I don't give a damn it's all entertainment to me

But your obviously pissy like a lil girl so Ill let you whine in the corner


I should slap the p!ss out of you
 04-19-2012, 12:20 PM         #87
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If you had asked me whether the Heat were gonna make it out the second round before All-star break, I'd have slapped you and gave you the face.

Now...I dunno, no one is performing exceptionally well except Lebron. Bosh is doing his thing, but you can't look over the fact that the Heat are 13-1 without Wade in the lineup.

The bench is a.ss too. Mike Miller's been mediocre at best at the apex of his career, and now he's dwindling quickly. Battier's defense is overrated as hell, and if you can't hit wide open three's then what can you do?

Spoelstra is just not that experienced to deal with this squad. They'd definitely be a better team with a more experienced coach.
 6 years ago '04        #88
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they should trade them and get carmelo, kobe & rest of the other superstars out there, maybe than just maybe they win championship. what you say?
 6 years ago '05        #89
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a good read because its not the big twos fault?

so much for lebron helping his teammates get better
 6 years ago '06        #90
Big Bear 20 heat pts20
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they are not as good as other teams
 6 years ago '05        #91
GUNIT-FINEST 
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SO THE HEAT STILL NEED MORE HELP lol
 6 years ago '10        #92
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 Space 2020 said:
All you heat motherfu*kers troll every nba thread #Trustory
this aint twitter f*ggot
 GUNIT-FINEST said:
SO THE HEAT STILL NEED MORE HELP lol
i hate seeing u post bcuz i know that means u aint die that day

retarded fukk
 04-19-2012, 09:11 PM         #93
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Did the Dallas mavericks have that championship look before the playoffs started?
 6 years ago '04        #94
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 ondatpurple said:
spoken like true fu*k boys

see yall didnt come in this thread for no other reason but to hate and talk sh*t

we talking about basketball right? its a 2 on 5 sport or 5 on 5? just curious
Save it, sounds too much like the babble I heard for yeeeaaaaaaaaaars .

His productivity takes a dip every post-season minus '09 where he actually had me think he would be forever brolic in the playoffs win or lose.

Nope, just a fluke

Basketball is a 5 on 5, but some teams need their marquee player to meet/exceed expectations to win on big stage. The cavs did just & to a lesser extent the Heat. And many times Prince James came up short enough in those situations for his teams to take that L... be mad .
 04-19-2012, 10:13 PM         #95
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fu*k all of you hating. Miami HEAT will win the playoffs.
 6 years ago '10        #96
SoFresh170 27 heat pts27
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good read?
this is a motherfu*king excuse.
i call this bullsh*t anyway
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