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 6 years ago '08        #21
Keith504 42 heat pts42
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I visit these forums from time to time. They have alot of info over there.
 6 years ago '10        #22
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 Kizzle504 said:



I visit these forums from time to time. They have alot of info over there.
Yeah, I'm a member there as well. It's a good site.
 6 years ago '10        #23
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 Kizzle504 said:
what books do you all suggest one study for A+? be specific.
For the A+ Mike Myers is a pretty good book to read.

I used Labsim back in the day for mine to avoid having to read a whole damn book. Just watched there videos and did virtual labs and took practice tests.
 04-23-2012, 10:04 AM         #24
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Question. Could I get a help desk position right now with just an a.ssocaites in IT? Or will I need to get that A+ to get a help desk position while going to school?
 6 years ago '10        #25
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 jumpoff0421 said:
Question. Could I get a help desk position right now with just an a.ssocaites in IT? Or will I need to get that A+ to get a help desk position while going to school?
I mean, you can land a job with nothing if you know your stuff and get lucky or know somebody. A lot of Help Desk jobs look for an A+ though as the job is entry level and that cert is entry level.

If anything else you will get passed the HR filter. The way it works at my company and I've heard for a lot of others is, the managers tell HR if a persons Resume doesn't show some certain things they are looking for, just toss them in the trash.

Some of the key things they tell HR from what I've seen is a degree and certs. Some people say you don't know need a degree, but a company looking for a person with one will most likely never give you the chance to showcase your skills because you couldn't even get passed the HR screen.

There is a lot of talented people out there too without degrees. Comes down to knowing somebody a lot of times for them or having a lot of experience on their resume that will make them look past not having a degree.
 6 years ago '04        #26
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 rek0nize said:
I mean, you can land a job with nothing if you know your stuff and get lucky or know somebody. A lot of Help Desk jobs look for an A+ though as the job is entry level and that cert is entry level.

If anything else you will get passed the HR filter. The way it works at my company and I've heard for a lot of others is, the managers tell HR if a persons Resume doesn't show some certain things they are looking for, just toss them in the trash.

Some of the key things they tell HR from what I've seen is a degree and certs. Some people say you don't know need a degree, but a company looking for a person with one will most likely never give you the chance to showcase your skills because you couldn't even get passed the HR screen.

There is a lot of talented people out there too without degrees. Comes down to knowing somebody a lot of times for them or having a lot of experience on their resume that will make them look past not having a degree.
This is the mutafu*kin true. I try to preach to these dudes stacking up on certs and not trying to pursue their degrees. That HR screening process ain't no joke. I was telling dude this the other day that majority of the times companies would rather gamble on the guy with the degree versus having a few certs.

The key to take away from this thread is to be versatile have a degree little certs and some experience. I would suggest you should work on what takes you longest (being the degree first) then getting certs and experience in the meanwhile.
 6 years ago '06        #27
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 jumpoff0421 said:
Question. Could I get a help desk position right now with just an a.ssocaites in IT? Or will I need to get that A+ to get a help desk position while going to school?
i think you can. its easier to go through a tech contractor especially with no experience. they can get into the doors to jobs/companies without the hassle, scrutiny, and wait of a typical hiring process. most companies usually hire permanent employees through the contractor after doing a contract with them like temp to hire. companies dont want to invest time and money and be locked into an employee they cant easily fire or have to layoff....or sometime the business needs change and want to get rid of someone easier ...why they do a lot of work through them...
 6 years ago '10        #28
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 egotistical said:
This is the mutafu*kin true. I try to preach to these dudes stacking up on certs and not trying to pursue their degrees. That HR screening process ain't no joke. I was telling dude this the other day that majority of the times companies would rather gamble on the guy with the degree versus having a few certs.

The key to take away from this thread is to be versatile have a degree little certs and some experience. I would suggest you should work on what takes you longest (being the degree first) then getting certs and experience in the meanwhile.


Exactly. Having some versatility, by having a little bit of everything will help out a lot. I tell people the same thing, work on you degree and while you're in college be on the look out for Entry level positions where you can start getting your feet wet and get some experience also while working on some certs.

Not to mention if you attend WGU you knock out certs and degree all in one.
 6 years ago '08        #29
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So much info in the thread. :applause:



I have a question though. When you all say "Get your degree" are you referring to a.ssociates or Bachelors?


Or does it not matter which one as long as it's a degree?
 6 years ago '04        #30
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 Kizzle504 said:
So much info in the thread. :applause:



I have a question though. When you all say "Get your degree" are you referring to a.ssociates or Bachelors?


Or does it not matter which one as long as it's a degree?
I guess it depends. My advice from my journey, is to always stay active. If you're not working, I'd advise getting both certs and work on a degree. In the meantime look for a job. If you have one, and are just starting off, I'd say, still go after your certs first(see if your job will pay for them), then go after an a.ssociate's. If you can get away with it, see if they'll pay for you to get a Bachelor's. The Bachelor's in the end will give you the best earning potential. The certs and a.ssociate's though, will put your foot in the door and help you up the ladder quicker in the meantime if that makes sense.
 6 years ago '06        #31
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 rek0nize said:


Exactly. Having some versatility, by having a little bit of everything will help out a lot. I tell people the same thing, work on you degree and while you're in college be on the look out for Entry level positions where you can start getting your feet wet and get some experience also while working on some certs.

Not to mention if you attend WGU you knock out certs and degree all in one.


i think it depends also on what path you want to take in IT.

desktop support, help desk, networking, server sh*t..... get certs, degree is a waste of time and money (maybe not for certain server sh*t..)

management, project coordination/mgmt, app development/support, database administration, security, web programming, ... i think degrees are required, some positions need masters.

the positions at the top you will make anywhere between 25k- 100k, the positions on the bottom, you can make between 70k -150k depending on experience and your negotiation skills....

i got the A+ and Network + and most times made more than co-workers with a degree..i took the CCNA in 03 and failed that bi*ch miserably.. i'm gonna take it again soon, i should pass this time, cisco stuff you have to take very seriously which i didn't and they don't grade like a typical test

A+ and Network+ certs don't expire.. Cisco and Microsoft ones you have to renew usually every three years..

If your hustle is right, you can make another 10k/yr or more doing side work, fixing pcs in the area, flipping, taking weekend projects through contractors, making websites, etc

Help Desk - the call center version is a slave job, fu*k that.. but it is entry level..most IT folks serve they time on one or more... that job will make you stay on your grind to move up.

if you get a permament gig somewhere, a lot of times they have tuition reimbursement programs.. use that to get your degree.

this is just my advice though, everyone comes up differently in this.
 6 years ago '06        #32
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 Kizzle504 said:
So much info in the thread. :applause:



I have a question though. When you all say "Get your degree" are you referring to a.ssociates or Bachelors?


Or does it not matter which one as long as it's a degree?

bro, i tried to respond to your PM but it keep telling me i need to be an active member to respond.. i don't know wtf is up with that..
 6 years ago '10        #33
rek0nize 66 heat pts66
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 miltownhpt said:
i think it depends also on what path you want to take in IT.

desktop support, help desk, networking, server sh*t..... get certs, degree is a waste of time and money (maybe not for certain server sh*t..)

management, project coordination/mgmt, app development/support, database administration, security, web programming, ... i think degrees are required, some positions need masters.

the positions at the top you will make anywhere between 25k- 100k, the positions on the bottom, you can make between 70k -150k depending on experience and your negotiation skills....

i got the A+ and Network + and most times made more than co-workers with a degree..i took the CCNA in 03 and failed that bi*ch miserably.. i'm gonna take it again soon, i should pass this time, cisco stuff you have to take very seriously which i didn't and they don't grade like a typical test

A+ and Network+ certs don't expire.. Cisco and Microsoft ones you have to renew usually every three years..

If your hustle is right, you can make another 10k/yr or more doing side work, fixing pcs in the area, flipping, taking weekend projects through contractors, making websites, etc

Help Desk - the call center version is a slave job, fu*k that.. but it is entry level..most IT folks serve they time on one or more... that job will make you stay on your grind to move up.

if you get a permament gig somewhere, a lot of times they have tuition reimbursement programs.. use that to get your degree.

this is just my advice though, everyone comes up differently in this.
All COMPTia Certs now expire after 3 years. Started this last year.


Well, you definitely don't get a degree and certs for helpdesk, but you can get your feet wet in some sort of a technical job while you get your degree to become a Software Engineer or Network or Security guy. A Helpdesk job will look better on your resume than a job at Subway will to potential future employers.
 6 years ago '08        #34
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 miltownhpt said:
bro, i tried to respond to your PM but it keep telling me i need to be an active member to respond.. i don't know wtf is up with that..
lol it's all good.


I was just seeking advice about this IT world.
 6 years ago '06        #35
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 Kizzle504 said:
lol it's all good.


I was just seeking advice about this IT world.

yeah i feel u, this sh*t is relatively easy to get into but that first gig is going to be the hardest to get. but once you are in its up to you to continue building on that experience. after a certain point.. you have to know which jobs to take and which to pass up. that is key also.
 6 years ago '06        #36
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 rek0nize said:
All COMPTia Certs now expire after 3 years. Started this last year.


Well, you definitely don't get a degree and certs for helpdesk, but you can get your feet wet in some sort of a technical job while you get your degree to become a Software Engineer or Network or Security guy. A Helpdesk job will look better on your resume than a job at Subway will to potential future employers.
thats that bullsh*t right there about comptia... i got mine in 2000 are they grandfathering people in? fu*k it, im not retaking it ..ill keep it on my resume its not like employers check or verify. i havent had one in 12 yrs at least
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 rek0nize said:
All COMPTia Certs now expire after 3 years. Started this last year.


Well, you definitely don't get a degree and certs for helpdesk, but you can get your feet wet in some sort of a technical job while you get your degree to become a Software Engineer or Network or Security guy. A Helpdesk job will look better on your resume than a job at Subway will to potential future employers.
what line of work do you do in IT?
 6 years ago '10        #38
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 miltownhpt said:
thats that bullsh*t right there about comptia... i got mine in 2000 are they grandfathering people in? fu*k it, im not retaking it ..ill keep it on my resume its not like employers check or verify. i havent had one in 12 yrs at least
Yeah, if you got it before they changed their policy you're good for life.
 6 years ago '10        #39
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 miltownhpt said:
what line of work do you do in IT?
Software Engineer
 04-24-2012, 02:44 AM         #40
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I may be totally wrong about this, but are IT guys the people who work for Comcast/Time Warner/?


If so, what career did they choose?
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