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 04-09-2012, 10:48 PM         #1
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Questions for my IT workers
 

 
So I have a a.ssociates in IT Network Admin. I recently moved to NoVA to attend George Mason and get a Bachelors degree concentrated in Network Security. Now the situation is I currently work full time at a job I don't like and has nothing to do with IT. I have two years to finish school with the Bachelors. I'm trying to get my plan together so I make good decisions from this point on. Now I'm sure some of y'all are in the IT field and I need some help on what I should start doing. Is finishing school with the Bachelors degree a good idea? Should I focus more on certifications now? Which certifications can help me jump in the IT field now? Any help is appreciated just want to get some knowledge from people already in the game.

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 6 years ago '05        #2
R4P 11 heat pts11
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my boy is 2 years removed from college he majored in network security. looking at making 160k+ thanks to security clearance and a couple of certs.

my advice to you is get a good internship that can lead you to a security clearance, it will make you crazy money as well as certs. Bachelors in IT is overrated he'll be the first to tell you hes not using anything he learned in college now.


do your hw tho dont just drop out cuz of what i said
 6 years ago '04        #3
egotistical 1 heat pts
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 R4P said:
my boy is 2 years removed from college he majored in network security. looking at making 160k+ thanks to security clearance and a couple of certs.

my advice to you is get a good internship that can lead you to a security clearance, it will make you crazy money as well as certs. Bachelors in IT is overrated he'll be the first to tell you hes not using anything he learned in college now.


do your hw tho dont just drop out cuz of what i said
Bad Advice.

Security Clearance is extra hard to come by usually u will only come by them with government type of jobs. I would stay in school get your bachelors (if you wanna save money and time look into WGU (online school). It is extremely important nowadays. Right now at this moment it isn't a 100 percent requirement, but I will say its about a 50/60 percent (it will be a min in the future especially with everyone trying to break in this field). Only time u can really get a job without IT is if u have extreme IT experience or maybe a sh*tload of certs or a connection (of course). On top of this work on your certs in the meanwhile maybe in summers or in slow time in the semester. Most important try to get a entry job in the IT field. When people come to IT they don't realize there is a ladder to get to a certain place. You can't just get 100k in 2 years. You have to start out as a help desk position then move up into your desire position and salary as you gain experience and learn things. People gotta learn with IT you gotta really love it.
 6 years ago '08        #4
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Which certifications should one pursue to get their foot in the door?
 6 years ago '05        #5
R4P 11 heat pts11
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 egotistical said:
Bad Advice.

Security Clearance is extra hard to come by usually u will only come by them with government type of jobs.


You can't just get 100k in 2 years.
Thats why I said to try and get an internship that will lead to a security clearance.

and my buddy started out making 80k his first year after college and will double that within the next few months.
 6 years ago '06        #6
Rique 60 heat pts60
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 R4P said:
Thats why I said to try and get an internship that will lead to a security clearance.

and my buddy started out making 80k his first year after college and will double that within the next few months.
damnnnn 160k in his 20s? Thats realll
 04-11-2012, 10:22 AM         #7
platano_234  OP
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Yea, I'm considering changing my focus in college from Business to IT because the past few months I got this contract job very entry level IT stuff (Moving computers from one desk to another desk on the other side of the office). So we did that a couple of times and then started showing us other IT stuff, and I found that entertaining cause it was always something different and at times it makes you scratch your head cause some applications do not work with certain operating systems so you have to do a little research, but for the most part it was easy. The best part is that you get to meet everybody in the company (including the s3xy ladies that work there) and whenever they have a problem with the computer, they call you.

So just try to get an entry level job, cause the certs are good, but the experience is worth more!
 6 years ago '10        #8
rek0nize 66 heat pts66
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You can get your Bachelors from WGU along with certs at the same time. Cheap in cost and you can knock it out fast, depending how much time you can put towards it.

Some Certs you get with the degree:

Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate (CCNA®)
Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate Security (CCNA® Security)
Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician (CCENT)
CompTIA Security+


Then they have a Masters in Security & a.ssurance after you get your BS too.



You learn:

Network Security Practices and Policies
Fundamentals of Interconnecting Network Devices
Organizational Management
Hacking
Cyberlaw, Regulations and Compliance
Vulnerability a.ssessment
Forensics and Network Intrusion
Risk Management
Security Policy and Standards
Disaster Recovery Planning, Prevention and Response

Certs include:

EC-Council Ethical Hacking and Countermeasures (EC0-350)
EC-Council Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator (EC0-349)
GIAC G2700 (Standards and Policies)
 6 years ago '06        #9
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 rek0nize said:



You can get your Bachelors from WGU along with certs at the same time. Cheap in cost and you can knock it out fast, depending how much time you can put towards it.

Some Certs you get with the degree:

Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate (CCNA®)
Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate Security (CCNA® Security)
Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician (CCENT)
CompTIA Security+


Then they have a Masters in Security & a.ssurance after you get your BS too.



You learn:

Network Security Practices and Policies
Fundamentals of Interconnecting Network Devices
Organizational Management
Hacking
Cyberlaw, Regulations and Compliance
Vulnerability a.ssessment
Forensics and Network Intrusion
Risk Management
Security Policy and Standards
Disaster Recovery Planning, Prevention and Response

Certs include:

EC-Council Ethical Hacking and Countermeasures (EC0-350)
EC-Council Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator (EC0-349)
GIAC G2700 (Standards and Policies)
Props on this bro. I'm trying to break into the IT field myself. I studied 2 years of Computer Systems Technology at my college before I dropped out (started working and making money, cared less about school) but I never got my degree. I'm working at Best Buy now in Computers, bout to transfer to Geek Squad so I can get some experience in the field fixing computers. I'm also going for my certs, A+, then network+, then security+. I was thinking about going back to school just to get a degree to fall back on, but I'm hesitant because I really hate school, but this online degree looks promising.
 6 years ago '10        #10
rek0nize 66 heat pts66
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 bugzbirdman said:
Props on this bro. I'm trying to break into the IT field myself. I studied 2 years of Computer Systems Technology at my college before I dropped out (started working and making money, cared less about school) but I never got my degree. I'm working at Best Buy now in Computers, bout to transfer to Geek Squad so I can get some experience in the field fixing computers. I'm also going for my certs, A+, then network+, then security+. I was thinking about going back to school just to get a degree to fall back on, but I'm hesitant because I really hate school, but this online degree looks promising.
Yeah WGU is a new type learning model. Based on competencies. Meaning if you already know a certain area in a subject you can accelerate right passed it.

They have other IT degrees as well and they all cost 3k for every 6 months. You can add courses anytime you need during a 6th month term, so you can knock out as much as you can for your 3k.

I know they have over 35k students around the USA at all times enrolled and growing fast.

They are non profit too which is the best thing.

Definitely a good college if you're looking to save some money and knock it out fast as you can.
 6 years ago '04        #11
egotistical 1 heat pts
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 R4P said:
Thats why I said to try and get an internship that will lead to a security clearance.

and my buddy started out making 80k his first year after college and will double that within the next few months.
Getting an internship that leads to security clearance is like a 1/1000 chance (very few IT jobs even need security clearance). 80k out of college maybe in NY, definitely not down south (usually there is a extremely low possibility u make 80k right out of college unless u been interning since freshman year or sophomore year and have major experience or previous experience).
 6 years ago '04        #12
egotistical 1 heat pts
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 rek0nize said:



You can get your Bachelors from WGU along with certs at the same time. Cheap in cost and you can knock it out fast, depending how much time you can put towards it.

Some Certs you get with the degree:

Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate (CCNA®)
Cisco Certified Network a.ssociate Security (CCNA® Security)
Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician (CCENT)
CompTIA Security+


Then they have a Masters in Security & a.ssurance after you get your BS too.



You learn:

Network Security Practices and Policies
Fundamentals of Interconnecting Network Devices
Organizational Management
Hacking
Cyberlaw, Regulations and Compliance
Vulnerability a.ssessment
Forensics and Network Intrusion
Risk Management
Security Policy and Standards
Disaster Recovery Planning, Prevention and Response

Certs include:

EC-Council Ethical Hacking and Countermeasures (EC0-350)
EC-Council Computer Hacking Forensic Investigator (EC0-349)
GIAC G2700 (Standards and Policies)
Co-sign all this. WGU is the future best IT college right now. Great bang for your buck. It gives you ample preparation for the real world.
 6 years ago '05        #13
Based_One 79 heat pts79
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imma have to try this instead of the school i'm at now I was in retail management but i got of it and looking for something new I love computers so this is right up my alley.
 6 years ago '06        #14
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save your time and money going for a degree for now at least... and get some certs (a+, network +, security + in your case) ... you should be able to get those on your own but they have claases for each at schools like new horizons and other but some of those schools are ripoffs so watch out ...otherwise get the study books from barnes and nobles with the practice test cd rom....get with some contractors like adecco, robert half, etc to get you some contract jobs which will be anywhere from weeked projects to 1 yr contracts to temp to hire gigs to get some quick experience. degrees in IT are really only needed if you are trying to be in management. but i tell everybody after you start getting money and experience then you can finish your degree. as far as making that kinda bread out the gate, not impossible but that aint the norm but you can quickly get to that point by making the right moves with some luck.

the money is in application development and creating databases and sh*t like that, being cisco certified..project management to an extent, mid level management and higher.
 6 years ago '08        #15
Keith504 42 heat pts42
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what books do you all suggest one study for A+? be specific.
 6 years ago '06        #16
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 Kizzle504 said:
what books do you all suggest one study for A+? be specific.
the comptia a+ book is the official one. exam cram is straight too.. but you gotta get the full book with the cd... make sure you dont get the quick study books which really on have the fake tests in them. also dont worry about fully understanding everything in that book just learn it for the test.. you wont use or remember like half of it in a real work environment.

i also tell cats trying to get in help desk or desktop support, you should know how to build a pc from sctrach, take it apart and vice versa, load windows, drivers. tkae an extra 500, get on newegg and buy all the components...that'll really help you study for the test with some hands on
 6 years ago '06        #17
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 egotistical said:
Bad Advice.

Security Clearance is extra hard to come by usually u will only come by them with government type of jobs. I would stay in school get your bachelors (if you wanna save money and time look into WGU (online school). It is extremely important nowadays. Right now at this moment it isn't a 100 percent requirement, but I will say its about a 50/60 percent (it will be a min in the future especially with everyone trying to break in this field). Only time u can really get a job without IT is if u have extreme IT experience or maybe a sh*tload of certs or a connection (of course). On top of this work on your certs in the meanwhile maybe in summers or in slow time in the semester. Most important try to get a entry job in the IT field. When people come to IT they don't realize there is a ladder to get to a certain place. You can't just get 100k in 2 years. You have to start out as a help desk position then move up into your desire position and salary as you gain experience and learn things. People gotta learn with IT you gotta really love it.
yeah you not typically gonna get 100 that quick. not impossible i guess but honestly it think 160k is a stretch ... executive management might be making that much but they been in the game like 20yrs...
 6 years ago '06        #18
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I got some books if you need em. I'm currently studying the A+ book. So far its pretty good, really informative, they even got lil practice tests after each chapter.








 04-22-2012, 11:24 AM         #19
aftrmath959  OP
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cisco certs are where the money's at. CCNA is a great place to start. Microsoft certs as well. But just like with any job, it's all about who you know.

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 6 years ago '08        #20
Keith504 42 heat pts42
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good info in here. I'm bout to prop yall.


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