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 6 years ago '04        #81
tazbk 1 heat pts
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It should have always been two years. That is what they should have negotiated the first time. In reality, it should match what football and baseball does, 3 years.

note: Baseball players can be drafted out of HS but if they choose to go to college they must stay 3 years. If they attend junior or community college then they can be drafted at any point.
 6 years ago '07        #82
JamcnPrettyboy 96 heat pts96
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 HipHop Since 93 said:
If you're a basketball phenom coming from a poor background and you have an opportunity to turn your whole life around, and provide for your family by playing basketball, would you want somebody to tell you that you have to complete a certain amount of pointless years in college before you can go to the NBA?

Its 1 thing if they want to go to college, and want to pursue a degree as a backup plan, but if they dont want to then why force them?
Exactly.

A lot of these athletes are unfortunately not the most academically gifted individuals. Wade almost didn't get into college because of his grades and even had to miss out playing in his first year. Rose had someone do his sat's for him because he can't read.

I remember when folks were getting on jennings for going overseas after high school instead of college. But hey, the man didn't have higher education in his plans. He wanted to be a pro athlete.
 6 years ago '10        #83
SoFresh170 27 heat pts27
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 maxnn said:
By big majority of the greats you mean 5 players? For every Lebron there are about 3 Nbudi Ebi's.
for every lebron?
and your ration of 3:1
you stupid a.ss motherfu*ker

anyway... i think the nba should put it so that either players are 21
or straight out of high school
 6 years ago '05        #84
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i just dont understand why u ppl want them to say in school it only helps ncaa and gets them more money period. they could care less if kids learn or get a degree . and if your good enough your 1st year why not coming into the league yea u must need to learn but why not learn and get paid. there already best players in college how much more can u learn if your already the best your 1st year.

ppl just hate young blk kids making money at that age there should be no age req at all
 6 years ago '06        #85
Beantown Bully 12 heat pts12
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44 have declared and here's a list that had/having pretty decent NBA careers. Doubtful any of these guys would be better if they went to school.

Moses Malone
Darryl Dawkins
Shawn Kemp (attended Kentucky but got kicked off)
KG
Kobe
Jermaine O'Neal
TMAC
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Deshawn Stevenson
Tyson Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Travis Outlaw
Perk
D-12
Big Al
Josh Smith
JR Smith
Dorell Wright
Bynum
CJ Miles
Monta Ellis
Louis Williams
Andray Blatche
Amir Johnson

thats 27, lil more than half. Let em come from high school. Quicker they realize they're not good enough, more room in the league for those who are.
 6 years ago '04        #86
Javon23 265 heat pts265
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Either increase the age limit or make them stay at least 2 years in college or remove the 1 year rule all together.
NBA is turning to trash because there are too many players in the league that lack fundamentals and common sense on how to manage their money.
 6 years ago '11        #87
Backflipz 84 heat pts84
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 Beantown Bully said:
44 have declared and here's a list that had/having pretty decent NBA careers. Doubtful any of these guys would be better if they went to school.

Moses Malone
Darryl Dawkins
Shawn Kemp (attended Kentucky but got kicked off)
KG
Kobe
Jermaine O'Neal
TMAC
Stephen Jackson
Al Harrington
Rashard Lewis
Deshawn Stevenson
Tyson Chandler
Amare
Lebron
Travis Outlaw
Perk
D-12
Big Al
Josh Smith
JR Smith
Dorell Wright
Bynum
CJ Miles
Monta Ellis
Louis Williams
Andray Blatche
Amir Johnson

thats 27, lil more than half. Let em come from high school. Quicker they realize they're not good enough, more room in the league for those who are.


 6 years ago '06        #88
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 Akira Son Bio said:
LeBron and Kobe. That's it

Bring it up to 21. Makes college and the pro game more entertaining.
Kevin Garnett will be in the hall of fame

Dwight Howard will be in the hall of fame


The list that was posted of all the high school players drafted is actually quite impressive. Most of the guys turned out to be pretty good players that survived in the league. There are a few bums on the list, but we can name a ton of bums that were drafted out of college as well.


I am all for adding another year or 2, but its only for selfish reasons. It would make the college game better and I'm all for that. But i can't sit here and pretend that its what is better for the individuals. I don't believe that

Anybody who honestly believes that going to college for a year or 2 is going to greatly benefit these players (who are already looking to the NBA) are kidding themselves. Basketball is already their ticket, they are not looking for another one. Taking some bullsh*t lower level classes is not going to help them. Nothing you learn in the first 2 years at a university is going to greatly benefit them. You are not going to learn how to properly manage your money during that time. And only those who challenge themselves (very few) would get that in their third and 4th years.

There are some players that it would benefit, and there are others who it will k!ll. There are cases where coming out too early has hurt an individual. There are also cases where staying an extra year have k!lled a player's draft stock and cost them money. Even if you slide just a few spots in the draft, it will cost you a ton of money over that rookie contract.
 6 years ago '07        #89
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 Javon23 said:
Either increase the age limit or make them stay at least 2 years in college or remove the 1 year rule all together.
NBA is turning to trash because there are too many players in the league that lack fundamentals and common sense on how to manage their money.
Lol, most of the pros that went to college first STILL went broke. Theres no connection between going to college for a year and all of a sudden becoming a financial genius. Couple 101 classes dont help you if your goal in life to be a better baller. Anyone that has seen what these high profile kids on campus take for classes knows the whole sh*t is a joke

All rookies still take symposiums and classes with direct knowledge of how to handle millions of dollars. No way to prevent the disease that is stupidity

Sidenote, NCAA is a massive greedy overhead with officials making millions of dollars off these kids and they could give a fu*k about these so called 'student athletes'. They look at these kids like investments to make more money, of course they want them in school longer
 6 years ago '04        #90
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Two years in college, (or overseas), should be all that's required. No actual age rule.
 6 years ago '06        #91
Beantown Bully 12 heat pts12
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 respectrayallen said:
Kevin Garnett will be in the hall of fame

Dwight Howard will be in the hall of fame


The list that was posted of all the high school players drafted is actually quite impressive. Most of the guys turned out to be pretty good players that survived in the league. There are a few bums on the list, but we can name a ton of bums that were drafted out of college as well.


I am all for adding another year or 2, but its only for selfish reasons. It would make the college game better and I'm all for that. But i can't sit here and pretend that its what is better for the individuals. I don't believe that

Anybody who honestly believes that going to college for a year or 2 is going to greatly benefit these players (who are already looking to the NBA) are kidding themselves. Basketball is already their ticket, they are not looking for another one. Taking some bullsh*t lower level classes is not going to help them. Nothing you learn in the first 2 years at a university is going to greatly benefit them. You are not going to learn how to properly manage your money during that time. And only those who challenge themselves (very few) would get that in their third and 4th years.

There are some players that it would benefit, and there are others who it will k!ll. There are cases where coming out too early has hurt an individual. There are also cases where staying an extra year have k!lled a player's draft stock and cost them money. Even if you slide just a few spots in the draft, it will cost you a ton of money over that rookie contract.
I mean I left off the real bums (Korleone young, leon smith, kobe....

Moses is in the HOF
Kobe, KG are sure shots
Lebron, D-12 are as close as you can get for being under 27

And with some luck Amare, Big Al, Josh Smith, Monta Ellis, even Bynum got shots (pending on rings and staying consistent for a long time)

Anthony Davis could be the next Akeem or Anthony Randolph
 04-04-2012, 01:24 PM         #92
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 Sabotage said:
why is it asinine to think someone would want to better themselves as a just in case or learn how to spend their money?
My point exactly. Why can't talented basketball players do better for themselves by using their natural born talents to prosper?

People don't go to school to learn how to manage their money. If that was the case, so many college educated millionaires wouldn't be going bankrupt every year.

College isn't the path taken by many successful people. Who is anyone to dictate someone else's plan B? This is America. What is your point in agreeing that this path is the only one that works for these athletes? Your rationale is contradictory. Your arguments are flawed because of your clear personal disdain for the advancements of poor youths.
 6 years ago '11        #93
bobby doobie 1 heat pts
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Should let them come straight out of high school and give those scholarships to kids who are really going to use the education.
 04-04-2012, 01:30 PM         #94
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 Root Of Evil said:
NBA D-League Players make between $12,000 and $24,000 a YEAR...... as I said before, I dont hate the current system but add the option to go to the NBADL outta high school. Thats the only change cause teams gonna draft bad and Hyped players will be busts whether its College,Highschool or NBADL guys
No team HAS to draft anyone they don't want. Teams draft younger players because it makes the most sense for them. This gives them time to mold a player into the superstar they want. Your insistence on punishing great young basketball players to preserve the quality of players in the NBA is pointless. No one can dictate the future.

Your retort in regards to having these young players play overseas is pointless as well. Why do they have to? Only to see 18 year old Europeans drafted?! That doesn't even make sense. They're Americans, they should be the first to get a shot in the league.
 04-04-2012, 01:34 PM         #95
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 Tempus # 1 said:
Let them come straight out of high school but if they go to college they must stay at least 3 years.
2 years is enough.

You can't tell a legally grown man he can't get a job in the NBA like this. David Stern fails to realize bumping the age limit will only breed more players going the route Brandon Jennings went. That hurts the college game more than a one and done.
 6 years ago '05        #96
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i just dont see how u ppl cant see only reason they want them to stay is so they can make more money . period has nothing to do with education or making them ready for nba. the only way to be ready for nba is playing in the nba. this is about money race and greed how can u f!ght in a war at 18 but not play in the nba sh*t makes no sense
 6 years ago '05        #97
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once again why make them go overseas why cant they just go to the nba. and they can learn how to spend there money while been in the nba. they can go to school while been in the nba. u guys keep saying like they cant do all the things u say and play ball
 6 years ago '08        #98
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I'm sure it's been said, but it should be go straight from HS or 2 yrs in college.
 6 years ago '11        #99
HipHop Since 93 11 heat pts11
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Making them do a year in the D-League if they come out of high school would be better than forcing them to go to college. I never understood why they dont use NBADL like MLB uses the minor league.
 6 years ago '04        #100
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 maxnn said:
By big majority of the greats you mean 5 players? For every Lebron there are about 3 Nbudi Ebi's.
 Cambury said:
you buggin if you think college makes a difference between good and great...
your missin the point, college is not just a tool to further your knowledge in the sport by good coaching and better competition. Maybe these kids could actually get a degree or something. You know how many NBA players don't end up having great careers and get washed away. We have 64 players being drafted every year. About 2 make a difference immediately and about 10 ever become relevant in the NBA. These kids needs to get a god damn degree, this will help them in the long run. Its sad that in the sports community your taught to just get the money and run. Then they do just that, and run around spending money and end up broke in the next 5-10 years. This is a bigger issue then just sports, these kids need a damn education and at the same time your getting it for free. You have people racking thousands of dollars in debt to have those opportunities and not only that, you have a chance to be coached by calipari or coach K or roy williams. Some of the greatest coaches to do it. Look at how ignorant all of the high school players are. KG thinks hes hard because hes been rich since he was 17 bangin his chest like hes a soldier, Lebron thinks hes the king(and im a fan), Kobe never respected anybody and Dwight thinks hes superman but talks like a child. The world is much bigger then getting what you want. Too bad these players have to deal with the consequences, not you.
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