The Next PlayStation is Called Orbis, Sources Say. Here are the Details

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The Next PlayStation is Called Orbis, Sources Say. Here are the Details
 

 
While the official reveal of Sony's next home console could still be months away, if not longer, Kotaku has today learned some important details concerning the PlayStation 3's successor.

For one, the console's name—or at least its codename/working title—is apparently Orbis. And it's being planned for release in time for the 2013 holiday season.



The details in this story come from a reliable source who is not authorized to talk publicly about next-gen hardware but has shared correct information with us before. What they're telling us in specifics matches much of what we've heard and reported in generalities in recent weeks.

A Sony spokesperson declined to comment about these details, citing the company's policy not to comment on "rumors or speculation."

WHAT'S IN A NAME

Orbis. Say it out loud. Sounds a little like the word "four", doesn't it? Only it doesn't make the next PlayStation sound like a bad horror movie sequel.

It's also a name loaded with meaning. The word "Orbis" itself, from Latin, means circle, or ring, or even orbit. Not terribly helpful. Combine it with the name of Sony's new handheld system, though, and you have the common term Orbis Vita (or, in strict Latin, Orbis Vitae). Which means "The circle of life". Could the Vita be playing a very important role in the development and use of the next PlayStation home console? Maybe!

Such symbolism also suggests that rather than being a codename, like most companies employ when still developing a console (think NGP, or Durango), this might actually be the machine's final name. We don't know that, though, so keep an open mind about things.


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Type in Vita.SCEdevnet.com and you arrive at Sony's portal for Vita developers. Same with NGP.SCEdevnet.com, referencing the former codename for the Vita. The PS4 version of that address gets you nowhere. PS3 does, as does Orbis.SCEDev.net, though not to any Orbis-specific portions of the site.

THE NEXT PLAYSTATION, AT A GLANCE
Is called, or at least carries the working codename, "Orbis".
Is scheduled for a Holiday 2013 release.
Won't be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
Will lock new games to a PSN account as an anti-used games measure.
New games can be bought either on Blu-Ray or downloaded.
Current specs are an AMD x64 CPU and AMD Southern Islands GPU

CURRENT SPECS

Our main source supplied some basic specs for the console, but as the future is always in motion, bear in mind these could easily change between now and the Orbis' retail release. Still, if you'd like to know what developers are being told to plan for now, here you go.
AMD x64 CPU
AMD
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 Southern Islands GPU


The former, that's largely something we've heard before, but the latter is interesting. That's the name given to many of AMD's 2012 roster of high-end PC cards. The PS4's GPU in particular, we're told, will be capable of displaying Orbis games at a resolution of up to 4096x2160, which is far in excess of the needs of most current HDTV sets. It'll also be capable of playing 3D games in 1080p (the PS3 could only safely manage 3D at 720p).

NEXT YEAR

Our main source tell us that "select developers" have been receiving dev kits for the new console since the beginning of this year. Revised and improved versions of these kits were sent out around GDC, while more finalised beta units will be shipped to developers towards the end of 2012.

That should hopefully give developers plenty of time to have launch games ready for the Orbis' retail release, which will be in time for the 2013 holiday season. If you can remember the PS3 launch—it's OK if you can't, it was a while ago—that too was in time for the holiday shopping season (November 2006 for Japan and North America).

SO LONG, PS3 GAMES

Remember how the PlayStation 3 swiftly dropped the ability to play PS2 games? Well, our main source tell us the Orbis won't even bother, and that Sony has no plans to offer backwards compatibility for its existing catalogue of PS3 games.

SO LONG, USED GAMES

BACK IN DECEMBER... A post left on Pastebin back in December also referred to the PlayStation 4 as Orbis, calling it a codename in the same vein as Microsoft's Durango. The system specs in that post differ significantly from what Kotaku has heard, and the lack of a hard drive by default goes against the idea of downloading full games to the system.

The Pastebin post also mentions that big name developers like EA were disappointed by an Orbis much less powerful than Microsoft's next machine, so there's a chance that it's the story of an earlier prototype that didn't make the grade. We've reached out to EA for comment.

Just like the next Xbox/Durango, we've heard from multiple sources that the Orbis will likewise have some kind of anti-used games measures built into the console. Here's how our main source says it's currently shaping up: new games for the system will be available one of two ways, either on a Blu-Ray disc or as a PSN download (yes, even full retail titles). If you buy the disc, it must be locked to a single PSN account, after which you can play the game, save the whole thing to your HDD, or peg it as "downloaded" in your account history and be free to download it at a later date.

Don't think you can simply buy the disc and stay offline, though; like many PC games these days, you'll need to have a PSN account and be online to even get the thing started.

If you then decide to trade that disc in, the pre-owned customer picking it up will be limited in what they can do. While our sources were unclear on how exactly the pre-owned customer side of things would work, it's believed used games will be limited to a trial mode or some other form of content restriction, with consumers having to pay a fee to unlock/register the full game.

This would allow used games to continue to be sold at outlets such as GameStop, while also appeasing major publishers who would no longer have to implement their own haphazard approaches to "online passes".

That's all we've got for you at the moment. Remember, none of this information is confirmed, and even the information that is locked down in March 2012 may change before the console's eventual release. This is just what we've been told Sony is working on and planning for as of today. That being the case, how do you think it's shaping up?

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 6 years ago '06        #2
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Uhm congrats? what's that mean?
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 Comic Book Guy said:
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^^ that means that this won't be a civilized thread it's going to turn into a console war.

Anyway, I don't like that 'games tied to one PSN account' I buy a lot of used games and I guess that will be pointless now. SONY moving backwards as far as customer satisfaction. I wonder if Microsoft will follow suit
 6 years ago '04        #8
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 Pro337 said:
^^ that means that this won't be a civilized thread it's going to turn into a console war.

Anyway, I don't like that 'games tied to one PSN account' I buy a lot of used games and I guess that will be pointless now. SONY moving backwards as far as customer satisfaction. I wonder if Microsoft will follow suit
I'll delete off topic threads ...so fu*k em... =)

and MS already does this...aren't games tied to one account on the 360? or am I mistaken? PLUS don't forget this all Rumor, but like Kotaku said their source gave them correct info before...
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 Pro337 said:
^^ that means that this won't be a civilized thread it's going to turn into a console war.

Anyway, I don't like that 'games tied to one PSN account' I buy a lot of used games and I guess that will be pointless now. SONY moving backwards as far as customer satisfaction. I wonder if Microsoft will follow suit
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 Da Ill One said:
I'll delete off topic threads ...so fu*k em... =)

and MS already does this...aren't games tied to one account on the 360? or am I mistaken? PLUS don't forget this all Rumor, but like Kotaku said their source gave them correct info before...
DLC and XBL purchases are tied to the gamertag. But the used games thing doesn't seem like that far off from Sony considering they have been talking about it since before the PS3 launched and their is already a form of this on the Vita even if its not intended.
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 PhI|0z0pH3r said:
DLC and XBL purchases are tied to the gamertag.
Ahh ok...wait so arcade games aren't? I can dl games from my account on my friends 360? I never knew this

*Edit nevermind misread what you wrote...
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 Da Ill One said:
I'll delete off topic threads ...so fu*k em... =)

and MS already does this...aren't games tied to one account on the 360? or am I mistaken? PLUS don't forget this all Rumor, but like Kotaku said their source gave them correct info before...
I'm not sure honestly but I still don't think it's a good look. There are literally billions of people that rely on used games. If you have to buy the used game THEN pay to 'unlock' all the features of the game; might as well buy it new (which is what they obviously want you to do) Take a game like Resident Evil:ORC, no way I would buy it new but with this method you'll almost have to pay $65 for every game
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I'd expect rental vendors like Redbox, Blockbuster and Gamefly to lose out too if the new PS is anti-used games...hope that's all speculation.
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That is some fu*king bullsh*t if you can't play Used games. Isn't that illegal or some sh*t? That's basically a big fu*k you to companies like Blockbuster, Redbox, Gamefly, even retail stores that sell Used games. They will put millions of people out of jobs.

fu*k the direction the video game industry is moving in. I'll only play 2 or 3 games a year if I have to buy every game I want to play.
 03-28-2012, 10:40 AM         #15
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 Da Ill One said:
I'll delete off topic threads ...so fu*k em... =)

FLEX THOSE MOD MUSCLES!!!!!!

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EDIT: just so this is considered on topic, video games are fun


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 6 years ago '10        #17
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Not impressed. If they're going to restrict content, then games better receive a fu*king price decrease. With all of this DLC, online passes, and 5-6 hour adventures flying around for $60, I expect games to range around $35-$45 if we have them console locked.
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i never buy used games so it doesnt matter to me, but i don't think that used game sh*t will happen..for any of the consoles
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 Hovi Bryant said:
Not impressed. If they're going to restrict content, then games better receive a fu*king price decrease. With all of this DLC, online passes, and 5-6 hour adventures flying around for $60, I expect games to range around $35-$45 if we have them console locked.

price for games will probably go up.. they did between ps2/ps3 and xbox1/360
 03-28-2012, 11:03 AM         #20
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