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 6 years ago '10        #361
peeyump 15 heat pts15
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 Blockburner28 said:
Just curious so lets say the Saints play bad and miss the playoffs and get a top 10 pick how many people will be crying for the 2013 season?
 6 years ago '04        #362
Veno da Don 23 heat pts23
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 dre03 said:
Correction... Patriots did not cheat... Many coaches including the 2-time SB winning Jimmy Johnson said that what the Patriots were doing was exactly what he was told to do by his team scout back when he coached the Cowboys... as there understanding of the rules were that it was not illegal unless you used the recordings in the same game... He said he did the same thing but he felt it did not help him or his team any so he stopped doing it...

What the Pats did was not known to be illegal... Patriots came right out and said they felt they did not do anything illegal because they believed the rule was that you could not use the recordings in the same game... Many people misinterpreted that rule and many teams have done exactly what the Pats did which was record the opposing teams signals to use against them at a later date... It is no different then remembering the signals without the tape... It is up to the other team to make sure they do not use the same signals every time they play the same team...

The Saints violated a clear cut rule and jeopardized the integrity of the game... The NFL has to protect itself legally as well, with the bounty system brought to light players and families of players can push for lawsuits against the NFL for promoting injury and not protecting its players... By issuing harsh punishments the NFL can show that they are taking great strides in reversing this mentality and that zero tolerance is in place in regards to player safety... You cannot have management sanctioned bounties in any organization... This will also trickle down to college, high school and any sports on any level for some time now... You will have parents and coaches looking at hard hits and dirty hits more closely and publicly questioning of bounties in any organization in which dirty hits look intentional...
all of this...

And you add the gambling aspect to it then you get into the Pete Rose "betting on the game" territory. If you can't understand the severity of that then Goddell will surely use the Saints as an example.

This is all bad of the Saints organization all bad
 6 years ago '09        #363
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this should have happened 3 weeks ago...
would have had time to make that blockbuster trade:

alex smith & a 2nd round pick for breeze
 6 years ago '04        #364
Veno da Don 23 heat pts23
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If Goddell really wanted to punish the Saints though he should have not suspended those guys or took their picks and just made them play all their games on the road the next 2 seasons. 0-32
 03-22-2012, 07:39 AM         #365
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I still don't see how suspending him for the whole season fixes anything.
 6 years ago '05        #366
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 Veno da Don said:
If Goddell really wanted to punish the Saints though he should have not suspended those guys or took their picks and just made them play all their games on the road the next 2 seasons. 0-32
Minus the playoffs the Saints are actually a good road team. Id rather that than all the other sh*t.
 6 years ago '05        #367
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 palogee said:
I still don't see how suspending him for the whole season fixes anything.
It wont but it was all about Payton lying to Rodger and not stopping it and more importantly player safety. With the litigation going on with former players he had to do what he had to do. Football is a violent sport so it wont fix anything as far a injuries and concussions, but he is trying to maintain the integrity of the game too.
 6 years ago '04        #368
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 Veno da Don said:
If Goddell really wanted to punish the Saints though he should have not suspended those guys or took their picks and just made them play all their games on the road the next 2 seasons. 0-32
 6 years ago '04        #369
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 rynell said:
It wont but it was all about Payton lying to Rodger and not stopping it and more importantly player safety. With the litigation going on with former players he had to do what he had to do. Football is a violent sport so it wont fix anything as far a injuries and concussions, but he is trying to maintain the integrity of the game too.
:iagree:

I don't even see the appeal going through because he lied to the mans face.
 6 years ago '05        #370
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 willi150 said:
:iagree:

I don't even see the appeal going through because he lied to the mans face.
Payton shouldnt waste his time but Im sure he will try anyway. Rodger handed down the punishment and will stand by it.
 6 years ago '04        #371
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 rynell said:
Payton shouldnt waste his time but Im sure he will try anyway. Rodger handed down the punishment and will stand by it.
yeah I don't see Rodger changing his mind the appeal would have to go through him anyway. Also he was given the chance to make things easier on him when they met with Rodger and he still gave down that punishment.
 6 years ago '06        #372
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 Veno da Don said:
If Goddell really wanted to punish the Saints though he should have not suspended those guys or took their picks and just made them play all their games on the road the next 2 seasons. 0-32
So you would rather give the Saints out of all teams two 1st overall picks for the next two years?
 6 years ago '07        #373
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 Yinz N Burgh said:
Are there any reasonable Saints fans actually mad at Payton for what he did? All I see is defending it, accepting it, Shockey a snitch, etc. But nobody mad at Payton for potentially ruining your team.
at the end of the day, they won a SB

they might be content
 6 years ago '09        #374
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 Yinz N Burgh said:
Are there any reasonable Saints fans actually mad at Payton for what he did? All I see is defending it, accepting it, Shockey a snitch, etc. But nobody mad at Payton for potentially ruining your team.
not 1 of them talking about what actually happened...
everybody deflecting blame all over the place
 6 years ago '04        #375
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What are y'all talking about he lied to the commissioner and he knew what he was doing yeah i'm mad at him as well ain't nobody force our team to do this
 6 years ago '05        #376
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 Yinz N Burgh said:
Are there any reasonable Saints fans actually mad at Payton for what he did? All I see is defending it, accepting it, Shockey a snitch, etc. But nobody mad at Payton for potentially ruining your team.
No choice now but to accept it its over he had the chance to stop it and he didnt. Saints fans down here are pissed, but I can tell you everybody here is behind him and the Saints 100%. Regardless of what he allowed to go on with the team he will not get thrown under the bus here. Fans here accepted the punishment, but dont agree with the severity of it thats all. Nobody here is condoning what the team was doing if thats what you're thinking....its about the severity of the punishment.

After Payton had the balls to take this job in '06 when no one else wanted it and do what he did since then do you really think the fanbase and everyone else is gonna turn on him bc of this?
 6 years ago '11        #377
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 Blockburner28 said:
So you would rather give the Saints out of all teams two 1st overall picks for the next two years?
the last time you had a top 3 pick you wasted it on Bush ya some aces in finding gems in the later rounds, but ya have a tendency to draft high dissapointments
 6 years ago '05        #378
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 wjcorner said:
the last time you had a top 3 pick you wasted it on Bush ya some aces in finding gems in the later rounds, but ya have a tendency to draft high dissapointments
Bingo.........the Saints usually strike gold in later rounds and with UDFAs. Colston(7th), Pierre Thomas(UDFA), Lance Moore(UDFA), Bushrod(5th), Jhari Evans(4th), Carl Nicks(5th), Dunbar(UDFA), Jimmy Graham(3rd), Ivory(UDFA) etc.
 6 years ago '04        #379
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 Blockburner28 said:
So you would rather give the Saints out of all teams two 1st overall picks for the next two years?
Without their GM i will take my chances
 6 years ago '05        #380
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 Veno da Don said:
Without their GM i will take my chances
His suspension doesnt start until the beginning of the season and will last for 8 weeks. He will do the drafting a FA signings still
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