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 6 years ago '07        #161
deemoney23 15 heat pts15
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 Nate187um said:
so thats why mj is 1-9 in the playoffs and never had a .500 or better season without SP right

yet sp had a 55-27 season and lead the bulls to game 7 vs the knicks in the semi's DOLO
I'm so tired of seeing your bi*ch a.ss in threads with Kobe & MJ in the same title stan'n for Kobe like u on his payroll! All u come with is the same lame argument about Pip in 94-95 and MJ not winning without Pip So u telling me MJ couldn't go 55-27 with that same team in his prime (cuz he was at that time) with no Pippen with Kukoc starting for him?? You always talking about how bad the MJ lead Buls were before Pip was drafted in 87-88, but look at the bulls 86-87 befor the drafted Pippen, grant, made the trade for Cartwright and Phil took over for Collins...

Gene Banks F-G 6-7
Mike Brown C-F 6-9
Fred Cofield G 6-3
Steve Colter G 6-3
Dave Corzine C 6-11
Earl Cureton F-C 6-9
Darren Daye F-G 6-8
Michael Jordan G-F 6-6
Pete Myers G-F 6-6
Charles Oakley F-C 6-8
John Paxson G 6-2
Ben Poquette F-C 6-9
Brad Sellers C-F 7-0
Sedale Threatt G 6-2
Elston Turner G-F 6-5
Granville Waiters C 6-11
Perry Young G 6-5

You don't even know who half that roster is, let alone who was in the starting lineup for them Not to mention an all time great Celtics team in the east, with a great Pistons squad, and good teams in Atlanta & Milwaukee. All 4 teams won 50+ games that season and the East was better then the West... Bottom line is u don't want it, I can do this sh*t all day! Please come up with a better argument than this Scottie Pippen in 94-95 over MJ before Pip sh*t as your argument for Kobe>>>MJ, sh*t's laughable son
 6 years ago '08        #162
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kobe is better

mj is greater

really nothing else to talk about unless you're a d!ckrider, and bx doesnt lack in that department
 6 years ago '05        #163
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Well done!!
 03-12-2012, 03:26 PM         #164
Nate187um 
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 deemoney23 said:
I'm so tired of seeing your bi*ch a.ss in threads with Kobe & MJ in the same title stan'n for Kobe like u on his payroll! All u come with is the same lame argument about Pip in 94-95 and MJ not winning without Pip So u telling me MJ couldn't go 55-27 with that same team in his prime (cuz he was at that time) with no Pippen with Kukoc starting for him?? You always talking about how bad the MJ lead Buls were before Pip was drafted in 87-88, but look at the bulls 86-87 befor the drafted Pippen, grant, made the trade for Cartwright and Phil took over for Collins...

Gene Banks F-G 6-7
Mike Brown C-F 6-9
Fred Cofield G 6-3
Steve Colter G 6-3
Dave Corzine C 6-11
Earl Cureton F-C 6-9
Darren Daye F-G 6-8
Michael Jordan G-F 6-6
Pete Myers G-F 6-6
Charles Oakley F-C 6-8
John Paxson G 6-2
Ben Poquette F-C 6-9
Brad Sellers C-F 7-0
Sedale Threatt G 6-2
Elston Turner G-F 6-5
Granville Waiters C 6-11
Perry Young G 6-5

You don't even know who half that roster is, let alone who was in the starting lineup for them Not to mention an all time great Celtics team in the east, with a great Pistons squad, and good teams in Atlanta & Milwaukee. All 4 teams won 50+ games that season and the East was better then the West... Bottom line is u don't want it, I can do this sh*t all day! Please come up with a better argument than this Scottie Pippen in 94-95 over MJ before Pip sh*t as your argument for Kobe>>>MJ, sh*t's laughable son
you cant do this all day cause there is nothing to say.

facts are facts & there is NO EXCUSE for NEVER being able to lead your team to a winning record & winning 1 playoffs game without SP

kobe led a team of non future hall of fame players OUT WEST to the #1 seed where ALL 8 TEAMS WON 50 or more games

a team with mj and no future hall of fame players is going NOWHERE

HIS CAREER PROVES IT

SORRY
 03-12-2012, 03:31 PM         #165
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n*gga please! IDK whats wrong with n*ggas. Especiially the ones in sports....you would think they should know better!Bad nuff Kobe said recently that Wilt is #1, the him, then MJ! Kobe is #3 on thats list. Not 2. AND DEF NOT #1!!!! SMMFH
 6 years ago '11        #166
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 Nate187um said:
you cant do this all day cause there is nothing to say.

facts are facts & there is NO EXCUSE for NEVER being able to lead your team to a winning record & winning 1 playoffs game without SP

kobe led a team of non future hall of fame players OUT WEST to the #1 seed where ALL 8 TEAMS WON 50 or more games

a team with mj and no future hall of fame players is going NOWHERE

HIS CAREER PROVES IT

SORRY
Scottie wasn't even close to being the Scottie Pippen he would eventually become yet in 87-88 or 88-89 and they made the second round and ECF.
 6 years ago '04        #167
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 deemoney23 said:
I'm so tired of seeing your bi*ch a.ss in threads with Kobe & MJ in the same title stan'n for Kobe like u on his payroll! All u come with is the same lame argument about Pip in 94-95 and MJ not winning without Pip So u telling me MJ couldn't go 55-27 with that same team in his prime (cuz he was at that time) with no Pippen with Kukoc starting for him?? You always talking about how bad the MJ lead Buls were before Pip was drafted in 87-88, but look at the bulls 86-87 befor the drafted Pippen, grant, made the trade for Cartwright and Phil took over for Collins...

Gene Banks F-G 6-7
Mike Brown C-F 6-9
Fred Cofield G 6-3
Steve Colter G 6-3
Dave Corzine C 6-11
Earl Cureton F-C 6-9
Darren Daye F-G 6-8
Michael Jordan G-F 6-6
Pete Myers G-F 6-6
Charles Oakley F-C 6-8
John Paxson G 6-2
Ben Poquette F-C 6-9
Brad Sellers C-F 7-0
Sedale Threatt G 6-2
Elston Turner G-F 6-5
Granville Waiters C 6-11
Perry Young G 6-5

You don't even know who half that roster is, let alone who was in the starting lineup for them Not to mention an all time great Celtics team in the east, with a great Pistons squad, and good teams in Atlanta & Milwaukee. All 4 teams won 50+ games that season and the East was better then the West... Bottom line is u don't want it, I can do this sh*t all day! Please come up with a better argument than this Scottie Pippen in 94-95 over MJ before Pip sh*t as your argument for Kobe>>>MJ, sh*t's laughable son

squad had charles oakley on it


that alone means it was better than the squad kobe had when he was rocking with smush, kwame brown, odom, luke, chris mihm etc. . .and kobe took them n*ggas to like 45 wins when the West was at its toughest soooooooooooooo
 6 years ago '11        #168
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 abstractq said:
squad had charles oakley on it


that alone means it was better than the squad kobe had when he was rocking with smush, kwame brown, odom, luke, chris mihm etc. . .and kobe took them n*ggas to like 45 wins when the West was at its toughest soooooooooooooo
That goes both ways. Kobe missed the playoffs with a guy who made more all star games than Oakley.
 6 years ago '04        #169
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 maxnn said:
That goes both ways. Kobe missed the playoffs with a guy who made more all star games than Oakley.

Kobe missed the playoffs one year because the coach left midseason and he was hurt tho

i mean honestly, kobe had as a supporting cast

Odom
Smush
Brian Cook
Mihm
Devean George
Luke
Laron Profit
Turiaf
Vujacic
Jim Jackson
Slava Medvedenko
Rookie Bynum

Half the n*ggas on that roster was out the league when they left kobe

and kobe got them 45 wins out west


GOAT sh*t
 6 years ago '07        #170
deemoney23 15 heat pts15
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 Nate187um said:
you cant do this all day cause there is nothing to say.

facts are facts & there is NO EXCUSE for NEVER being able to lead your team to a winning record & winning 1 playoffs game without SP

kobe led a team of non future hall of fame players OUT WEST to the #1 seed where ALL 8 TEAMS WON 50 or more games

a team with mj and no future hall of fame players is going NOWHERE

HIS CAREER PROVES IT

SORRY
What facts n*gga, I'm failing to see them. First off, Odom isn't a better all around player than Oakley was?? Oakley was tougher and a better defender, but what else did he do better than Odom?? I'll wait I'm not even a Odom fan like that but I know he could do a lil bit of everything and never reached his poetential playing alongside ur suppossed GOAT, but I bet he would of hit it playing with MJ like Pip did which also is a NO brainer that MJ was a better leader and elevated his teammates play which is something Kobe has always had trouble doing. This n*gga stole Gasol's Finals MVP award from him in 10' against the Celtics, he wasn't even the best player on his team in those Finals, but n*ggaz want to say they would take Scottie over MJ. What did Scottie do in Houston & Portland without Mike?? RIGHT Please STFU!!
 6 years ago '07        #171
deemoney23 15 heat pts15
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 abstractq said:
Kobe missed the playoffs one year because the coach left midseason and he was hurt tho

i mean honestly, kobe had as a supporting cast

Odom
Smush
Brian Cook
Mihm
Devean George
Luke
Laron Profit
Turiaf
Vujacic
Jim Jackson
Slava Medvedenko
Rookie Bynum

Half the n*ggas on that roster was out the league when they left kobe

and kobe got them 45 wins out west


GOAT sh*t
So this roster isn't better or equal too the one that MJ had in 86-87?? How many of those players u ever heard of after they left the Bulls?? Better yet, how many do u even know who the hell they are period! Oakley, Paxson, Pete Myers?? Plus MJ had better stats playing with bums than Kobe did! What about the season he played PG damn near the entire season and avg'd 33, 8 a.sst, 8 reb, 3 stls, and shot 53% from the field?? Kobe aint seeing the KING n*gga
 6 years ago '04        #172
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 deemoney23 said:
What facts n*gga, I'm failing to see them. First off, Odom isn't a better all around player than Oakley was?? Oakley was tougher and a better defender, but what else did he do better than Odom??

Oakley gave MJ 15 and 13 when he played for the bulls

Odom gave 15 and 9

Oakley was a better defender

Odom had more range on his shot and could handle the rock



ehhhhh. . .
 6 years ago '04        #173
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 deemoney23 said:
So this roster isn't better or equal too the one that MJ had in 86-87?? How many of those players u ever heard of after they left the Bulls?? Better yet, how many do u even know who the hell they are period! Oakley, Paxson, Pete Myers?? Plus MJ had better stats playing with bums than Kobe did! What about the season he played PG damn near the entire season and avg'd 33, 8 a.sst, 8 reb, 3 stls, and shot 53% from the field?? Kobe aint seeing the KING n*gga
Oakley, Paxson, Gene Banks >>> whoever kobe was playing with

Kwame Brown going down as one of the biggest busts of all time

smush parker was gone within a year of leaving LA

Wheres Brian Cook?

Wheres Mihm?

Why is luke walton in the league still?
 03-12-2012, 03:59 PM         #174
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 maxnn said:
That goes both ways. Kobe missed the playoffs with a guy who made more all star games than Oakley.
kobe didn't have the luxury of making the playoffs with a 30-52 record like mj did
 6 years ago '07        #175
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 abstractq said:
Oakley gave MJ 15 and 13 when he played for the bulls

Odom gave 15 and 9

Oakley was a better defender

Odom had more range on his shot and could handle the rock



ehhhhh. . .
So since we know stats don't matter to Kobe stans cuz if they did we wouldn't be having debates like these cuz MJ trumps in damn near everything, so let's throw them out the window since yall do it on the regular.... Now watching Odom play for the Lakers all those years and watching Oakley play with MJ ( if ur even old enough to remember that) or hell if not, take 90's Oakley with the Knicks, he was a better player than Odom?? Again, if we not talking defense and maybe rebounding, where's your argument?
 03-12-2012, 04:00 PM         #176
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 abstractq said:
Oakley, Paxson, Gene Banks >>> whoever kobe was playing with

Kwame Brown going down as one of the biggest busts of all time

smush parker was gone within a year of leaving LA

Wheres Brian Cook?

Wheres Mihm?

Why is luke walton in the league still?
seriously....who is taking SMUSH PARKER/KWAME BROWN/CHRIS MIHM in their starting line up??
 6 years ago '04        #177
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Oakley was better on the bulls because he scored then. . .

But even as he was on the early 90s knicks im taking oakley over odom
 6 years ago '07        #178
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 abstractq said:
Oakley, Paxson, Gene Banks >>> whoever kobe was playing with

Kwame Brown going down as one of the biggest busts of all time

smush parker was gone within a year of leaving LA

Wheres Brian Cook?

Wheres Mihm?

Why is luke walton in the league still?
Paxson was a spot up shooter for the bulls, basically a vuvajic who started. Smush did everything better except shoot. Oakley could hoop back then, but still wan't better overall than Odom, and Banks was a role player for us barely playing 20 mins a game. So I'll ask again, how many people from that 86-87 roster u ever hear about again after they left the Bulls other than Oakley??................ You didn't, cuz most were out the league within 2-3 yrs except for Pete Myers, who was a fu*king journeyman. None had any impact on any team going fwd.
 6 years ago '11        #179
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 Nate187um said:
kobe didn't have the luxury of making the playoffs with a 30-52 record like mj did
Mu played like 10 games that year because he broke his foot
 6 years ago '07        #180
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 abstractq said:
Oakley was better on the bulls because he scored then. . .

But even as he was on the early 90s knicks im taking oakley over odom
It's funny how when talking about Odom during that season he wasn't a good player at all but the 2 previous seasons he was the sh*t and 6th man of the year and a huge reason yall won a title. But let yall tell it, Odom wasn't the same player back then that he was 09-11'
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