Please Explain To Me Why Lebron Is Not The Best Player Ever

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 6 years ago '11        #41
elvisfreshly 106 heat pts106
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 maxnn said:
1. You asked earlier who was the most efficient scorer? The guy who has a higher FG% and higher FT%. That would be MJ.
2. Since you love that PER
LBJ at age 23: 25.2 PER
MJ at age 23: 27.8 PER
MJ was a better defender at 23 also, and PER doesn't take that into account
Michael at 23 was in his 2nd year
LeBron at 23 was in his 5th year
 04-21-2012, 12:37 PM         #42
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 nbrock said:
Magic and jordan rolled into one lmao i been waiting for a dumbass post like this....see what u do is throw stats out to make it seem like lebron is the greatest...Not even in the same category with the players u named, Lebron leads the league in fast break points that accounts for more then half of his points on top of that he goes to the line at least 5 times and im being modest...now he might hit 3 or 4 jumpshots in a game which for a player of his caliber is terrible...that being said when the game is on the line his presence isnt felt because he is a average halfcourt player which is the reason it looks like he chokes or doesnt show up when in critical situations...Mike Kobe and Magic even Carmelo and KD they all thrive in half court offense which makes them versatile players...lebron cant do ANYTHING with a zone defense proven last year in the finals because he is a streak shooter..now while i dont take cedit from lebron being a good player he isnt one of the greatest...will he get there maybe...but for now stop pumping stats because that is only half the battle

P.S holla at me when he averages 37 in a single season
u musta missed him scoring 17 straight in the 4th to win the game the other day.......he can play every position, he isn't supposed to be a sharpshooter like mj from midrange or durant.........he can do it all. and if he does develop a great jumper later on....................

btw, its easy to average 37ppg when ur taking 28 shots a game and teams are puttin up 120 points every night
 6 years ago '11        #43
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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 elvisfreshly said:
Michael at 23 was in his 2nd year
LeBron at 23 was in his 5th year
Sorry, not sure how to respond to that. Are you just adding on to what i was saying?
 6 years ago '11        #44
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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In fact, if you go year by year by age, the only year that Lebron has a higher PER is age 21, which was MJs rookie year.
 6 years ago '11        #45
elvisfreshly 106 heat pts106
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 maxnn said:
Sorry, not sure how to respond to that. Are you just adding on to what i was saying?
Idk what side you were on but i was just saying Mike was only in his 2nd year still learning while Bron in his 5th already at his peak and look who was better
 6 years ago '09        #46
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honestly all LBJ needs is two rings and 2 final mvps to be in the top 10 dude has accomplished so much in the regular season all is left to do is win some titles
 6 years ago '04        #47
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 SeaJaiye said:
easy to compare someone's entire career to someone who still has like 8 years left when jordan was 27, he had 2 mvp's and no finals mvp's. lebron's getting his 3rd mvp and 1st finals mvp this year.

lebron just started this season taking less 3's and at one point, he was shooting 60% for the season............he's not gonna have another season under 50% FG

lebron put up 50 points and 10 a.ssists in a single game. u dont think he can get 60 if he wanted to?
nuf said.....so please stop comparing Bron to the GOAT! ....lets wait till hees done.
 6 years ago '11        #48
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 SeaJaiye said:
u musta missed him scoring 17 straight in the 4th to win the game the other day.......he can play every position, he isn't supposed to be a sharpshooter like mj from midrange or durant.........he can do it all. and if he does develop a great jumper later on....................

btw, its easy to average 37ppg when ur taking 28 shots a game and teams are puttin up 120 points every night
you sound dumb you dont get no points for turning it up on chris humphries and the nets...what a corny rebuttal....magic johnson is better then mike because he played all position....idc how how many shots it took that man he will never do...KD and LBJ play the same positon so why cant he be a sharpshooter again?

and again holla at me when your man drops 37 a game and scoes 63 against the celtics in the playoffs with no help


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 6 years ago '04        #49
Pichito25 2 heat pts
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 AriGold said:

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Lebron was a better finisher than Mike, Stronger than Mike, Faster than Mike, Better passer than Mike, Better rebounder than Mike but Mike easily got him with the scoring.



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Bron is not even close to a better finisher than Mike.....ARE U CRAZY!!!!!! dont make me post vids!!

Bron isnt even faster than yung mike! the entire League was playing at a much faster pace back then.....and u gona compare strength? that just stupid...like saying Mike isnt as strong as Karl Malone!....thats pretty obvious!
 6 years ago '06        #50
28 Gramz 51 heat pts51
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MJ is the GOAT. All these numbers mean dude is gifted as fu*k physically but when it counts, dude is a.ss. This is the main reason you can't ever compare Kobe or Lebron to MJ....THEY sh*t THE BED IN THE FINALS..Lebron has been twice and got shut down the same number of times, look at his reg. season numbers compared to his Finals and you'll see a huge drop off. Not to mention Lebron is weakminded, so much so that he had to run and form a super-squad with the best SG in the league and a top 5 pf, the only time Mike had a squad with that much talent was after he WON 3 RINGS IN A ROW. Even when Lebron did that...HE LOST. TO THE fu*kING MAVERICKS. Mike was 6/6 with rings with 5 MVP's (should have 9 or 10), saying Lebron needs 2 rings to be better than him is crazy as fu*k. These stats may boost him above Kobe's level but to say this man is gonna be the all out GOAT??...this n*gga has a LOOOOOOOONG way to go cause sometimes numbers do lie.
 6 years ago '09        #51
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Bcuz he doesnt play 4 the knicks

OWWWWW

 6 years ago '09        #52
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Never happened to MJ :applause:
 04-21-2012, 01:06 PM         #53
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 nbrock said:
you sound dumb you dont get no points for turning it up on chris humphries and the nets...what a corny rebuttal....magic johnson is better then mike because he played all position....idc how how many shots it took that man he will never do...KD and LBJ play the same positon so why cant he be a sharpshooter again?

and again holla at me when your man drops 37 a game and scoes 63 against the celtics in the playoffs with no help
u saying lebron hasn't closed out great playoff teams before?

jordan averaged 37ppg and 5 a.ssists when teams were known for puttin up 120 points a night. lebron averaged 30ppg and 9 a.ssists.............ur crazy if u dont think he could average 40 a game if he wanted to and had that ballhog mentality. he even admitted he could win the scoring title every year if he wanted to, he just chooses to get his team involved

kd can't do the things lbj can..........he looks silly tryin to dribble the ball and turns it over way more than bron. lebron not as great a shooter, but he's still playing his game his way. 53% shooting and basically the same 27ppg as KD. if he was a great shooter, there'd be no competition. its how he's balanced out...........................

scored 63 against the celtics but got swept.............


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 6 years ago '10        #54
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The man needs to win a ring first before getting compared to the goat
 04-21-2012, 01:08 PM         #55
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 NLSP42 said:



Never happened to MJ :applause:
that's cuz he wasn't good enough for ppl to put his high school games on national tv amazing that lebron went through all that drama/publicity and ppl saying he cant deal with pressure
 6 years ago '11        #56
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 Rico23 said:
kobe and mj stans coming together in their hatred of lebron?...


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bxsc never ceases to amaze me
Is it hatred to say Lebron isn't better than MJ yet?
 6 years ago '09        #57
thegoldenhero 3 heat pts
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lol at calling someone crazy for not thinking LBJ can average 40 a game lol...if his scoring prowess was at that level he would have won a title last year dude was invisible in that series and sometimes dude looks average against set halfcourt defenses when his jumper isn't falling i worry how he plays when there is less fastbreak opportunities in the playoffs...If LBJ plays like he did in those last two years in Cleveland in the playoffs offensively he should be able to win the title back when he had more confidence in himself in the 4th and when he use to attack the basket more relentlessly
 6 years ago '11        #58
MakeItHappen456 41 heat pts41
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Why are there so many stats being thrown around ???? Bottom line is that lebron has NO RINGS and has the lowest salary amongst the goats.
 6 years ago '06        #59
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 NLSP42 said:



Never happened to MJ :applause:
He missed though, doesn't count
 6 years ago '11        #60
nbrock 27 heat pts27
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 SeaJaiye said:
u saying lebron hasn't closed out great playoff teams before?

jordan averaged 37ppg and 5 a.ssists when teams were known for puttin up 120 points a night. lebron averaged 30ppg and 9 a.ssists.............ur crazy if u dont think he could average 40 a game if he wanted to and had that ballhog mentality. he even admitted he could win the scoring title every year if he wanted to, he just chooses to get his team involved

kd can't do the things lbj can..........he looks silly tryin to dribble the ball and turns it over way more than bron. lebron not as great a shooter, but he's still playing his game his way. 53% shooting and basically the same 27ppg as KD. if he was a great shooter, there'd be no competition. its how he's balanced out...........................

scored 63 against the celtics but got swept.............
Nope not when it counted and u keep puttin these stats up, his presence in a game is not felt like mike presence again 14 points off of fast breaks u need to shoot 50% the name of the game is basketball which means put the ball in the basketball not shot efficiency so if it took mike x amount of shots to get his team 6 chips then so be it...lol talking about swept funny how u didnt mention your man getting swept in the finals
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