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 03-30-2012, 05:52 PM         #241
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Looking to load up on $CBLI Monday. :dancingcool:
 03-30-2012, 07:00 PM         #242
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I'm starting to figure out how to short stocks..

Media do you short often?
 5 years ago '08        #243
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 TiPZ said:
I'm starting to figure out how to short stocks..

Media do you short often?
I never short, if I'm bearish on a stock I'll buy put options. But I don't short the actual stock.

Since you guys like to short though... ARNA looks like it's setting up for a horrible April
 5 years ago '06        #244
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I might get out of my position in apple take the gains then buy again when it goes to 580
 03-31-2012, 12:15 AM         #245
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 o7media said:
I never short, if I'm bearish on a stock I'll buy put options. But I don't short the actual stock.

Since you guys like to short though... ARNA looks like it's setting up for a horrible April
I know this is noooobbish..

But what is the intrinsic difference between buying puts and shorting the stock?

I know theres way more money in options.. but why is that? I want to eventually trade options instead of stocks.. but i still don't understand that easy concept.


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 03-31-2012, 12:21 AM         #246
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 Rique said:
I might get out of my position in apple take the gains then buy again when it goes to 580
That $580 is a do or die price..

Instead of just buying when it hits $580, wait, and see how it reacts to that price.. a break below $580 would mean price rotates to $550. Which would be a devastating loss if you bought shares at $580.
 5 years ago '08        #247
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 TiPZ said:
I know this is noooobbish..

But what is the intrinsic difference between buying puts and shorting the stock?

I know theres way more money in options.. but why is that? I want to eventually trade options instead of stocks.. but i still don't understand that easy concept.
The reason there's more money in buying options is because you're going up in price with options.

The problem with shorting is that the stock only has so much value that you can take away from it. If a stock is at $50 and you short there then it can only lose a maximum of $50. And realistically even that's not possible even if it goes bankrupt it won't go to $0.

You can't gain more than 100% by shorting a stock. But when you're going up in price you can because it can more than double. If you go long a stock at $50 it can go past $100.

With options they're much more volatile because of the time value for one, but also the intrinsic value. There is no 'intrinsic' value when you go long/short on a stock.

But shorting IMO is the worst way to go. Not only does it minimize your potential gain but it also maximizes your risk. When you short a stock there's an unlimited amount of risk if the stock soars after you short. Unlike options, you can only lose your investment (maximum). If you invest $500 in options that is your maximum loss. But if you short you can lose a lot more.

That's why I never short, it's really the worst way to go IMO
 03-31-2012, 11:17 AM         #248
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i started the Yahoo! fantasy finance to get my feet wet. Im tryna get my money up
 5 years ago '06        #249
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 Pstax916 said:
i started the Yahoo! fantasy finance to get my feet wet. Im tryna get my money up
good luck
 04-01-2012, 10:17 PM         #250
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 o7media said:
The reason there's more money in buying options is because you're going up in price with options.

The problem with shorting is that the stock only has so much value that you can take away from it. If a stock is at $50 and you short there then it can only lose a maximum of $50. And realistically even that's not possible even if it goes bankrupt it won't go to $0.

You can't gain more than 100% by shorting a stock. But when you're going up in price you can because it can more than double. If you go long a stock at $50 it can go past $100.

With options they're much more volatile because of the time value for one, but also the intrinsic value. There is no 'intrinsic' value when you go long/short on a stock.

But shorting IMO is the worst way to go. Not only does it minimize your potential gain but it also maximizes your risk. When you short a stock there's an unlimited amount of risk if the stock soars after you short. Unlike options, you can only lose your investment (maximum). If you invest $500 in options that is your maximum loss. But if you short you can lose a lot more.

That's why I never short, it's really the worst way to go IMO
:thx:
 5 years ago '04        #251
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you're positions today??
 5 years ago '06        #252
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Ainv my babyyyy
 5 years ago '06        #253
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APPLE finally having a good day all is well in the world time to make so more money
 5 years ago '06        #254
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Apple up over 2.2% lets see if it can keep pushing.
 5 years ago '06        #255
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Now watching $HZNP
 5 years ago '08        #256
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God damn the volume was dead today. One of the lowest days in a long time. I lost a few hundred on AAPL puts :(

But my OVTI was k!llin it.
 04-02-2012, 05:31 PM         #257
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 Rique said:
APPLE finally having a good day all is well in the world time to make so more money
Yeah, bounced off that psychological $600 level with ease, monster move.

Is $AAPL almost done with its mark up stage? Is distribution occurring? Who knows. Too early to say.. but we've been facilitating between $580-620 for the past couple weeks.


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 5 years ago '06        #258
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Time to see if apple has what it takes to go over 650
 04-02-2012, 06:27 PM         #259
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 Rique said:
Time to see if apple has what it takes to go over 650
You mean $620?
 5 years ago '06        #260
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 TiPZ said:
You mean $620?
Nope i mean 650. Its at 625 now:)
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