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 4 years ago '08        #2541
o7media 47 heat pts47
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Long DF (spec play)
 4 years ago '11        #2542
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Question for everybody...how do i get started? Whats my first step? Thinking about going to a etrade office on friday...
 4 years ago '08        #2543
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HSH up again on another higher buyout offer
 4 years ago '10        #2544
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 o7media said:
Long DF (spec play)
Which option strategy are you using for this trade?
 4 years ago '10        #2545
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 nbrock said:
Question for everybody...how do i get started? Whats my first step? Thinking about going to a etrade office on friday...
Why go to an E-trade office?

If that's the brokerage firm you want, sign up online.
 4 years ago '08        #2546
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 Machiavelli said:
Which option strategy are you using for this trade?
Just long calls. No spreads.
 4 years ago '10        #2547
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 o7media said:
Just long calls. No spreads.
Volatility is low. You expect to profit just from price movement only?
 4 years ago '08        #2548
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 Machiavelli said:
Volatility is low. You expect to profit just from price movement only?
Possibly, chart shows room up to $19 - $19.50 over the next month or so. But lots of consolidation in this space lately as well. M&A activity could take it higher, that's why I'm treating it as a speculative play.
 4 years ago '10        #2549
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 o7media said:
Possibly, chart shows room up to $19 - $19.50 over the next month or so. But lots of consolidation in this space lately as well. M&A activity could take it higher, that's why I'm treating it as a speculative play.
Cool.

I've been thinking about using theta to my advantage by selling options every week. Your thoughts?
 4 years ago '08        #2550
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 Machiavelli said:
Cool.

I've been thinking about using theta to my advantage by selling options every week. Your thoughts?
There's always a big risk if you're selling nekkid. Covered, not so much. But markets have been pretty dead this year so it wouldn't be a bad strategy for some steady income as long as you're far enough OTM.
 4 years ago '10        #2551
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 o7media said:
There's always a big risk if you're selling nekkid. Covered, not so much. But markets have been pretty dead this year so it wouldn't be a bad strategy for some steady income as long as you're far enough OTM.
Say I sold deep OTM puts. If the underlying doesn't reach the strike I'm selling then I get to keep the premium, correct?
 4 years ago '08        #2552
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 Machiavelli said:
Say I sold deep OTM puts. If the underlying doesn't reach the strike I'm selling then I get to keep the premium, correct?
Yeah, if it doesn't expire ITM you keep the full premium and just the puts expire worthless. And of course you can cover anytime before expiration.
 4 years ago '10        #2553
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 o7media said:
Yeah, if it doesn't expire ITM you keep the full premium and just the puts expire worthless. And of course you can cover anytime before expiration.
You mean I can buy back the puts I sold if I profit before expiration?

It's difficult finding stocks to trade right now. Vol is dead.
 4 years ago '08        #2554
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 Machiavelli said:
You mean I can buy back the puts I sold if I profit before expiration?

It's difficult finding stocks to trade right now. Vol is dead.
Yes

and yes.
 4 years ago '08        #2555
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 GSR said:
This. I just signed up for an account with them on Saturday and transferred 4gz and it got cleared this morning. I love technology and the fact that I can do all the trading from the e-trade app on my phone.

I have no idea what to invest in tho, but I'm thinking these penny weed stocks are a good way to make some money with short term investments. You get up 3 full trade cycles (buy-sell) per week.
*insert cam'ron nope gif*


Also the 3 trades per week you're referring to are day trades and that's if you're on margin.
 4 years ago '08        #2556
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 GSR said:
What's that mean? "On margin"?
There are 2 different types of trading accounts, cash and margin. If you're on margin you can leverage yourself with your broker's money, but you pay interest on it (it's a loan) and there are rules you have to follow. If you've bought stock on margin the broker has the right to automatically sell and liquidate your a.ssets if your balance falls below the required amount.

Margin is also where the 3 trades per 5 day rule comes in. You can only make 3 day trades per 5 days on margin.


With cash it's all your money so there are less rules as far as requirements/maintenance goes. You can trade as much as you want on cash as long as it's with settled cash. For example if you start with $10,000 you can buy 10 stocks with $1,000 each and sell them all back in the same day. That would be 20 trades in one day (10 buys, 10 sells), or 10 day trades. On Margin you wouldn't be able to do this.

But the downside with cash accounts is that it takes 3 days for cash to settle. So using that same example above say you put in $10,000 all in one stock on a Monday and sell it the same day... from there it takes 3 days to settle. Now you have to wait until Thursday before you can re invest your money with settled cash and be able to sell.

You can buy in before Thursday, but it would be with unsettled funds and you would have to wait til Thursday to sell it. If you buy another $10k of stock on Tuesday then you're stuck holding it until Thursday no matter what.


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 4 years ago '08        #2557
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 GSR said:
Ahh ok. Props bro!
 4 years ago '08        #2558
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 o7media said:
Long DF (spec play)
Great finish on DF today.

Finally a bid in on my calls. I may have went too far OTM but we'll see what happens.
 4 years ago '08        #2559
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 4 years ago '08        #2560
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Tyson came back with a $63/share offer for HSH. Let's see if the food stocks can move higher again on this ... all I care about is DF really
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