Kobe Bryant "I Have No Rivals"

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 6 years ago '07        #141
joshdogg26 193 heat pts193
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 abstractq said:
i established my point about the finals

19 ppg, two clutch performances down the stretch

Shaq was MVP, kobe was 2nd most important in that series. . .the end

now, as for the WCF, since reading isnt your strong suit either, nowhere did i say that sabonis was k!lling shaq. I said, in Game 7, sabonis and sheed had shaq bottled up all game.

and kobe stepped up, when it was all on the line, and led the team in points, rebounds, a.ssists and blocks

for the series, kobe had good games and bad games. But thats kind of the player that kobe was then. He was REAL inconsistent and could explode or play sh*tty. And the lakers as a team was wayyyy more shaq focused in that 1st title run. But when it was crunch time, and the Lakers needed it, Kobe delivered

keep posting them stats. . .its more than the raw numbers, its when they get produced. And kobe was extra clutch
while i do tire of ur relentless excuse-making, to this point i have actually bothered to read them, admittedly more for entertainment than edification.

so anyway, all u have to do is contribute almost as much as antoine walker and ur invaluable. this is the kobe system.

 6 years ago '04        #142
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 joshdogg26 said:
i have no way to refute your arguments



true. . .
 6 years ago '07        #143
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 abstractq said:
if u don't count any of kobe's bad games and only look at good ones, even ones that didn't even happen in that series, he almost had a halfway decent finals
fair point.
 6 years ago '11        #144
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A few points
1. Can we stop saying "the WCF was the REAL finals?" Because last year, i'm pretty sure most people thought the ECF was the real finals, and that was wrong, in 04, we thought the west was the real playoffs and whoever won the west would k!ll whoever won the weakest conference probably in nba history in the finals, we were wrong.
2. Did someone say Kobe = Antoine Walker?
3. Saying Shaq didn't face a good center in those 3 finals isn't true. in 01, he faced Mutombo, and before you say "he was past his prime", Mutombo was an all star and DPOY that year.
 6 years ago '07        #145
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 maxnn said:
2. Did someone say Kobe = Antoine Walker?
i think somebody tried to attack a straw man and put those words in my mouth, but no. what i actually said that his contribution in the pacers finals was less than antoine's in the 06 finals, solely as a benchmark to compare it to.
 6 years ago '05        #146
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 Youngin19 said:
Kobe is overrated as fu*k...he's not great to me



dude basically lucked up in to 5 rings
 03-03-2012, 08:34 PM         #147
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"He's too young," Bryant said. "He's too young. When I came into the league, he was in elementary school."

Bryant is three years older than Wade, but was already a seven-year veteran when Wade was drafted in 2003.

I've outgrown them all, from A.I. (Allen Iverson) when I first came in to (Tracy) McGrady to Vince Carter and so forth and so on."

lmao man too much ether in that article
 6 years ago '05        #148
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wait, the usual heatless bandwagonners found a way to hate on kobe with this statement too?



Kobe is right with everything he said.....nothing he said with his comments are false...

Kobe is from a different class.....

why you heatless pus*y boys catching feelings?

ya'll have kobe's d!ck in u dude's mouths every fucckin day....
 03-03-2012, 08:37 PM         #149
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When Jordan came into the league, Kobe was in elementary school too.
 6 years ago '10        #150
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Jordan>Kobe>Wilt>Bird>Magic
 6 years ago '05        #151
The Problem 
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Wilt was a joke he played in a sh*tty league. No Defense. Wilt would not last in this league. He's only given credit because of his pipe game.

@the n*gga the that said the Ring is not the end all be all. You stupid as fu*k. Go kick rocks barefooted. Name one "GREAT" Player with out a ring. Someone who changed the game and did not win a championship. n*gga you play basketball to win the Larry O'Brien. GTFO.
 6 years ago '05        #152
The Problem 
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George Gervin might be the only one. Iceman's finger roll was cold as sh*t. I respect that.
 6 years ago '09        #153
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For the TMac voters, you cant be a rival when you never get out the first round to face the guy and decide who is the best when it counts.
 6 years ago '09        #154
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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Here's why I say Kobe is right. Jordan had the Pistons to overcome that defined his legacy, he had the Knicks. Magic had Bird, The Celtics, Isiah and the Pistons, Dr J had Bird and the Celtics, Shaq had Hakeem for a minute and then Robinson, Duncan, Ewing and the like to define his legacy against. Hell he even had Yao for a little while and then in old age had Dwight.
You see what I'm getting at here? Kobe doesn't have those defining moments and battles against guys or teams because he was that good for the most part and dominated them. Those kinds of things are what creates a legacy that resonates to the masses as it plays out nationally when you face each other. Kobe's legacy moments will be mostly off the court or for individual stats piled up. Even his best game ever is largely forgotten and wasn't watched by many because it was against the lowly Raptors.
 6 years ago '10        #155
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He's telling the Truth,
 6 years ago '04        #156
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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i think kobe did what jordan did tho he just played better and longer then any would be rival

iverson vince tmac had they played at a high level their entire career we would be having a different convo right now!
 03-03-2012, 09:34 PM         #157
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gervin had no respect for mj though
 6 years ago '09        #158
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 28 Gramz said:
AI was the only one better than Kobe for a good stretch of years, I don't think T-mac and especially Vince was ever on his level.

Kobe's my #2 GOAT but from 96-00 AI was better IMO.
this...damn did LA get tha brooms out on philly??? Oh wait i'm sure it wasn't kobe it was all shaq's doing kobe haters are alive and well llam
 03-03-2012, 09:48 PM         #159
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lol @ stupid kobe fans , 5 rings , shaq shaq shaq pau pau, under 40 percent for all the finals series, LUCKED HIS WAY TO 5 RINGS
 6 years ago '04        #160
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 BiggCurt51 said:
this...damn did LA get tha brooms out on philly??? Oh wait i'm sure it wasn't kobe it was all shaq's doing kobe haters are alive and well llam
id say iverson was better til he got traded to the nuggets he had more to do with less to do it with his whole career and hes fu*kin 6'0

and philly won game 1 of that series take away shaq and add any other series and philly prolly takes that series n 7 games
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