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 03-04-2012, 03:13 PM         #241
RoB J34 
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 Youngin19 said:
while shooting 43% and 28% from 3, but that's greatness right? n*gga is a glorified chucker. Yet you n*ggas have the nerve to talk about shot difficulty when Iverson is a 6'0, scrawny n*gga who took tough shots every night on the court and would finish in the lane over 7 footers at his size.



AI is 36...if he had came to the league outta high school and been drafted to a team with Shaq, I'm damn sure he would've had major success. Kobe success is based on circumstance. Not his greatness
Iversons a "chucker" too soo what are you trying to say?

Kobes overrated becuz of his size now....ok
 6 years ago '04        #242
abstractq 5 heat pts
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btw. . .anybody wanna guess how MJ did in the Seattle finals tho?


5-19 in the series clincher ring a bell?


oh ok. . .
 6 years ago '11        #243
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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 abstractq said:
if only kobe got to play jeff hornacek twice in the finals. . .

seriously though, did jordan ever play against a team in the finals that had a good defensive 2 guard? or a good defensive unit period?

seattle maybe. . .

i dont know, but doing work against danny ainge, hornacek, byron scott and drexler just dont do it for me
You claiming that Reggie Miller, 5 foot 11 Iverson, Kerry Kittles, Courtney Lee and past his prime Ray Allen are defensive gurus?
 6 years ago '04        #244
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 maxnn said:
You claiming that Reggie Miller, 5 foot 11 Iverson, Kerry Kittles, Courtney Lee and past his prime Ray Allen are defensive gurus?
I must have missed when AI was guarding kobe 1 on 1 all series

here i was thinking it was eric snow and aaron mckie

Boston had one of the toughest defenses the year when they played LA
Same with Philly
Same with New Jersey

meanwhile, MJ got to play against barkley and the suns, who averaged giving up like 190 a game while they scored 195

No defense blazers, mediocre defense jazz twice with those midget whiteboys at the guard

No defense old and slow lakers

and the ONE good defense they played, how did MJ do?

27 ppg, 41% shooting, 5-19 in the series clincher, 6-19 in another game

but you sh*ttin on kobe for averaging 29 ppg on 40% shooting

how do you reconcile this?


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 6 years ago '04        #245
fat_boyy21 323 heat pts323
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 UF4Soldier said:
30.1 5.3 6.2 2.3 .327
ppg apg rpg spg 3pt %
6 rings 5 mvps 6 finals mvps Etc...

guess who ?

this is kobe measuring stick and he aint even close to it after all these years
he just admitted this his rivalry and what he is tryna surpass for his career now let him try it in peace ! until he matches this for his career which aint possible its some one of ahead of him to be the best u surpass them !
this is exactly why i tell people to enjoy kobe for what he is.. but somehow that makes me a hater in a kobe stans eyes
 6 years ago '11        #246
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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 abstractq said:
I must have missed when AI was guarding kobe 1 on 1 all series

here i was thinking it was eric snow and aaron mckie

Boston had one of the toughest defenses the year when they played LA
Same with Philly
Same with New Jersey

meanwhile, MJ got to play against barkley and the suns, who averaged giving up like 190 a game while they scored 195

No defense blazers, mediocre defense jazz twice with those midget whiteboys at the guard

No defense old and slow lakers

and the ONE good defense they played, how did MJ do?

27 ppg, 41% shooting, 5-19 in the series clincher, 6-19 in another game

but you sh*ttin on kobe for averaging 29 ppg on 40% shooting

how do you reconcile this?
1. I honestly couldn't remember, so i looked up the highlights and it was Mckie and iverson.
2. The "no defense blazers" were 3rd in defense that year, the "no defense, old and slow" lakers were 5th in defense that year. The "give up 190 suns" were still a top 10 defense. Jazz were 2nd in points allowed those finals years.
 6 years ago '04        #247
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 fat_boyy21 said:
this is exactly why i tell people to enjoy kobe for what he is.. but somehow that makes me a hater in a kobe stans eyes
no ones hating kobe he is a beast always has been but it was season when iverson was doing more with less and he just aint got the wins or the hardware jordan got

but he has his time as the best in the league and now he is competing for the crown at age 33 u cant hate that at all but u cant say he has the the all time greatest basketball career with final losses and time when he wasnt the best player on the team
 6 years ago '04        #248
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 .:RELOADED:. said:
i dont see anyone saying kobe is better than michael jordan.....where are you seeing this?
u ever been on boxden ? but if they do oh well at this point tho
 6 years ago '04        #249
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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lol wade aint looking like a rival today tho!
 6 years ago '04        #250
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 maxnn said:
1. I honestly couldn't remember, so i looked up the highlights and it was Mckie and iverson.
2. The "no defense blazers" were 3rd in defense that year, the "no defense, old and slow" lakers were 5th in defense that year. The "give up 190 suns" were still a top 10 defense. Jazz were 2nd in points allowed those finals years.
so we just makin gup stats now

the Blazers were 12th in points allowed
The suns were 18th in points allowed
The sonics were 8th
The jazz were 8th one year and 13th another

and the lakers actually were the best at number 2. . .with 100 ppg allowed


rofl!!!


Now lets see for kobe

The pacers were 12th
Sixers were 5th
Nets were 5th
Orlando was 6th
and the Celtics were 5th. ..

And whats funny is. . .the WORST defense LA played in that span (indiana) gave up less ppg than the BEST defense the bulls played by rank (Los angeles)

Like i said its no comparison when Jordan gets to play these soft defense teams with 6'2 white shooting guards

that sh*t that make ya soul burn slow
 6 years ago '08        #251
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kobe is better than jordan. not that big a deal to me tho because mj still the greatest. call me a stan or whatever but just my opinion
 6 years ago '04        #252
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 slimdogg3325 said:
kobe is better than jordan. not that big a deal to me tho because mj still the greatest. call me a stan or whatever but just my opinion
i think get what u saying u saying kobe is a more skilled player far a.ss dribbling and all that yea but jordan is greater then bryant?
 6 years ago '11        #253
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 abstractq said:
so we just makin gup stats now

the Blazers were 12th in points allowed
The suns were 18th in points allowed
The sonics were 8th
The jazz were 8th one year and 13th another

and the lakers actually were the best at number 2. . .with 100 ppg allowed


rofl!!!


Now lets see for kobe

The pacers were 12th
Sixers were 5th
Nets were 5th
Orlando was 6th
and the Celtics were 5th. ..

And whats funny is. . .the WORST defense LA played in that span (indiana) gave up less ppg than the BEST defense the bulls played by rank (Los angeles)

Like i said its no comparison when Jordan gets to play these soft defense teams with 6'2 white shooting guards

that sh*t that make ya soul burn slow
Where the hell you get your stats? I went to basketball reference to get those stats. For example:

See, portland was the 3rd best defensive team
 6 years ago '04        #254
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 abstractq said:
so we just makin gup stats now

the Blazers were 12th in points allowed
The suns were 18th in points allowed
The sonics were 8th
The jazz were 8th one year and 13th another

and the lakers actually were the best at number 2. . .with 100 ppg allowed


rofl!!!


Now lets see for kobe

The pacers were 12th
Sixers were 5th
Nets were 5th
Orlando was 6th
and the Celtics were 5th. ..

And whats funny is. . .the WORST defense LA played in that span (indiana) gave up less ppg than the BEST defense the bulls played by rank (Los angeles)

Like i said its no comparison when Jordan gets to play these soft defense teams with 6'2 white shooting guards

that sh*t that make ya soul burn slow
what 6.2 white guy held jordan

who held kobe that was known for outstanding dee n the finals plz tell

raja bell? snow ? jumaine jones ? jalen rose jason kidd kerry kittles wtf i cant name orlandos two gaurd kus im sure he was a.ss too on defense come man its kobe and mike no one u can name is gonna match them if we talkin bout finals defense and that aint they fault they that good
 6 years ago '04        #255
UF4Soldier 127 heat pts127
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 .:RELOADED:. said:
anyone who does that sh*t is doin it just to get a rise out of you lebron fans

they know kobe isnt better than mike

hes close tho
he is a good trace
 6 years ago '04        #256
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 maxnn said:
Where the hell you get your stats? I went to basketball reference to get those stats. For example:

See, portland was the 3rd best defensive team
so i guess we just gonna ignore that the blazers was 12th in PPG allowed. . .good job


Defensive rating is like a per 100 possessions kind of stat. Since we dont have ppg for the players per 100 possessions, that makes it kinda skewed, no?
 03-04-2012, 04:14 PM         #257
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 maxnn said:
1. I honestly couldn't remember, so i looked up the highlights and it was Mckie and iverson.
2. The "no defense blazers" were 3rd in defense that year, the "no defense, old and slow" lakers were 5th in defense that year. The "give up 190 suns" were still a top 10 defense. Jazz were 2nd in points allowed those finals years.
mj played in the HIGHEST SCORING ERA OF BASKETBALL
 6 years ago '04        #258
abstractq 5 heat pts
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 UF4Soldier said:
what 6.2 white guy held jordan

who held kobe that was known for outstanding dee n the finals plz tell

raja bell? snow ? jumaine jones ? jalen rose jason kidd kerry kittles wtf i cant name orlandos two gaurd kus im sure he was a.ss too on defense come man its kobe and mike no one u can name is gonna match them if we talkin bout finals defense and that aint they fault they that good

thats my point

no 6'2 white guy could hold a guy like jordan. Its an unfair matchup by default. Kobe never had that luxury

but when MJ played a decent defensive 2 guard against seattle, peep how he struggled
 6 years ago '09        #259
That Guy Fly 21 heat pts21
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 .:RELOADED:. said:
the entire beef between kobe/shaq was stupid.....had they just gotten along they wouldve won many more titles together....but both of them hated each other

kobe hated shaq for not coming into the season in shape.....shaq hated kobe cause kobe was young and felt shouldnt be sayin sh*t

but shaq couldve been so much better in his career if he just came into shape by training camp or seasons start....he wouldnt be in playing form each year until the all star break

still the best dynamic duo to ever play imo....inside outside dominance




....earlier i said coach sloan....i meant coach popovich
Shaq hates anybody that has an opinion on him, especially when the sh*t they say is true. n*gga is like a big kid or Bobby Bouche or some sh*t.
 6 years ago '11        #260
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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 abstractq said:
so i guess we just gonna ignore that the blazers was 12th in PPG allowed. . .good job


Defensive rating is like a per 100 possessions kind of stat. Since we dont have ppg for the players per 100 possessions, that makes it kinda skewed, no?
I never said anything about ppg allowed except for the jazz teams. The fact we don't have the ppg for the players per 100 possessions is a far counter though.
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