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 02-21-2012, 09:45 AM         #381
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 02-21-2012, 09:48 AM         #382
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 thegoldenhero said:
I don't think Shaq had a better series than Hakeem watching the old footage i didn't get that from watching it...if you look at the boxscores i guess you could come to that conclusion tho
no fam joshdogg26 is more in love with shaqs fg% since he doesn't shoot outside the paint

while olauwon dropped 30 on him ALL 4 GAMES of that SWEEP one of like 4 or 5 players to ever do that at the time and was avg 2spg...yes a center avg 2spg
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this thread is strait jokes
 6 years ago '07        #384
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 Nate187um said:
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not to mention the celtis are already to play more physical than any other team for some reason. They can put hands check 3 point line and under, sh*ts wild.
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 Nate187um said:
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what part of Tony Allen: "DAMN BOSTON GOING ZONE? THEY NEVER WENT ZONE WHEN I WAS THERE. SMH THEY LOOK LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PLAY THAT sh*t. I KNOW I DON'T"

do u not understand? celtics load up the strong side and send double teams. it's what they do. they did not ever use a zone defense for any number of possessions.
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 thegoldenhero said:
I don't think Shaq had a better series than Hakeem watching the old footage i didn't get that from watching it...if you look at the boxscores i guess you could come to that conclusion tho
when it comes down to it, the difference in their stat line is that shaq had more rebounds, a.ssists, and blocks, but hakeem scored 5 more ppg cuz he took 11 more shots per game. obviously his team won the series, but as far as the individual matchup, hakeem really didn't do anything better than shaq, he just shot more. .
 6 years ago '07        #387
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As long as he has his $tat$ he's happy
 6 years ago '07        #388
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 keithbm1111 said:
As long as he has his $tat$ he's happy
celtics fan, can u verify the fact that the famous celtic defense set up by thibs is in fact not a zone, and until this year when ur team has been struggling, u never ever went zone in the past because that's basically a mark of shame when nothing else is working?

we have a kobe stan determined to claim that was a zone, pretty much just so he can say kobe faced a zone and jordan didn't . apparently doc rivers saying they never played zone and tony allen saying he doesn't even know how to play zone isn't enough proof for him, because he has a mislabeled youtube video. he thinks that every time a defense sends help, sags off, or collapses, that means they're playing zone.

 6 years ago '07        #389
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I'm not a coach, I couldn't tell ya, i wont sit here and pretend i am...sometimes it looked like a zone, sometimes it didnt. All i know is that it was entertaining as sh*t watching them play in '08 more than any year. I miss Thibs, guy really is a great defensive minded coach
 02-21-2012, 02:01 PM         #390
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 joshdogg26 said:
what part of Tony Allen: "DAMN BOSTON GOING ZONE? THEY NEVER WENT ZONE WHEN I WAS THERE. SMH THEY LOOK LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PLAY THAT sh*t. I KNOW I DON'T"

do u not understand? celtics load up the strong side and send double teams. it's what they do. they did not ever use a zone defense for any number of possessions.
yet Shaq will tell you olajuwon owned him in the 95 finals and you dismiss it

but tony allen states they never played zone

WHICH THEY CLEARLY DID

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@ believing anything this clown says
 6 years ago '06        #391
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 joshdogg26 said:
yea...except that's not footage of a fu*king zone defense u retard



look, it's in a youtube clip, WITH FOOTAGE. can't deny it, kobe's gay
oh my god fu*king straight up ether
 6 years ago '11        #392
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 thegoldenhero said:
I don't think Shaq had a better series than Hakeem watching the old footage i didn't get that from watching it...if you look at the boxscores i guess you could come to that conclusion tho
It was closer than people make it out to be, what it comes down to is the stats were close, but hakeem made the clutch plays to get his team the win, shaq really didn't. But honestly if people watched the series nick anderson is the reason the series wasn't even close not the shaq hakeem matchup.

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what don't you get that pictures do nothing to prove that they were in a zone, in the pictures you show you can tell whos guarding who and who is shading off their man.

In the first picture ray allen is guarding kobe as he did a lot, pierce came over to help, while still being in range of artest. Rondo is shading off fisher again because the lakers were incapable of making 3s. Garnett/perkins doesn't need to be explained.

In the second picture ray allen is once again guarding kobe man to man, garnett comes over for help defense leaving pau, rondo picks up pau to help the helper, pierce is again shading far off artest, perkins is on bynum again.

So let me get this straight in these pictures you are linking you think they show a zone defense, so in the second picture in this magical celtics zone they a.ssigned kevin garnett to the top of the key?

If for some reason you still believe they ran a zone defense, which they didn't why is it that ray/tony allen were always guarding kobe, how come they didn't stay in their respective zone. Or were they a.ssigned to the infamous "kobe zone"

Avoided my last post too.


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 6 years ago '11        #393
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 Cambury said:
not to mention the celtis are already to play more physical than any other team for some reason. They can put hands check 3 point line and under, sh*ts wild.
What is funny about this, is that you always claiming to be a former great basketball player, and a coach with job offers to who knows where, but you are cosigning someone that is wrong about a simple zone defense. How long you going to keep the charade up like you know the game of basketball?
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 whothebestmc said:
It was closer than people make it out to be, what it comes down to is the stats were close, but hakeem made the clutch plays to get his team the win, shaq really didn't. But honestly if people watched the series nick anderson is the reason the series wasn't even close not the shaq hakeem matchup.



what don't you get that pictures do nothing to prove that they were in a zone, in the pictures you show you can tell whos guarding who and who is shading off their man.

In the first picture ray allen is guarding kobe as he did a lot, pierce came over to help, while still being in range of artest. Rondo is shading off fisher again because the lakers were incapable of making 3s. Garnett/perkins doesn't need to be explained.

In the second picture ray allen is once again guarding kobe man to man, garnett comes over for help defense leaving pau, rondo picks up pau to help the helper, pierce is again shading far off artest, perkins is on bynum again.

So let me get this straight in these pictures you are linking you think they show a zone defense, so in the second picture in this magical celtics zone they a.ssigned kevin garnett to the top of the key?

If for some reason you still believe they ran a zone defense, which they didn't why is it that ray/tony allen were always guarding kobe, how come they didn't stay in their respective zone. Or were they a.ssigned to the infamous "kobe zone"

Avoided my last post too.
that's what i am saying Hakeem didn't own Shaq on some David Robinson sh*t but he did outclass him imo that's what i got from the series also his Rockets squad was playing better than the Magics and swept them...i don't see how Shaq outplayed Hakeem much i didn't get that from watching the games.
 02-21-2012, 02:18 PM         #395
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damn these boxden posters are just borderline retarded

faced with photo & film evidence & still wont STFU

you idiots must be on that "A-side METH"
 6 years ago '11        #396
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 thegoldenhero said:
that's what i am saying Hakeem didn't own Shaq on some David Robinson sh*t but he did outclass him imo that's what i got from the series also his Rockets squad was playing better than the Magics and swept them...i don't see how Shaq outplayed Hakeem much i didn't get that from watching the games.
If you just based it off stats than I could see it, because shaq was statistically better. A disadvantage shaq had was he had his shooters not making baskets and soaking up shots that should have been giving to him. Like for example I remember game 1 hakeem wasn't even guarding shaq because he was in foul trouble, and they still didn't keep feeding shaq down low I want to say charles jones was guarding shaq at the time. Hakeem wasn't statistically better than shaq but he came up big when it mattered most with the game winning tip etc. I think it was a lot closer than a lot of people made it out to be, shaqs shooters just came up short imo.


 Nate187um said:
damn these boxden posters are just borderline retarded

faced with photo & film evidence & still wont STFU

you idiots must be on that "A-side METH"
respond to my post, if you think you can refute what I am saying but since I know whats coming, you will post a few more pictures or the same exact damn video like a moron, it is probably not worth it.

@ you continually using "photo evidence" to try to get the zone defense point across when they mean nothing you fu*king moron.
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 whothebestmc said:
respond to my post, if you think you can refute what I am saying but since I know whats coming, you will post a few more pictures or the same exact damn video like a moron, it is probably not worth it.

@ you continually using "photo evidence" to try to get the zone defense point across when they mean nothing you fu*king moron.
all he has is a youtube video that doesn't show a zone, and thinks it is just cuz some idiot said so . he can't identify a defense unless the 2K commentators call it out for him.

i guess doc rivers and tony allen who coached and played for that team and both said they don't play zone, as well as any other analyst or article u can find relating to that series, doesn't mean anything. there is literally not one source that will claim that was zone other than that single youtube video some kobe stan made lol. i guess if we double team or collapse on howard in the post, we're playing zone d lmfao.
 02-21-2012, 02:53 PM         #398
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 joshdogg26 said:
all he has is a youtube video that doesn't show a zone, and thinks it is just cuz some idiot said so . he can't identify a defense unless the 2K commentators call it out for him.

i guess doc rivers and tony allen who coached and played for that team and both said they don't play zone, as well as any other analyst or article u can find relating to that series, doesn't mean anything. there is literally not one source that will claim that was zone other than that single youtube video some kobe stan made lol. i guess if we double team or collapse on howard in the post, we're playing zone d lmfao.
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& we wont mention shaq averaging over 5 TO's a game for that series either

"If I can't beat you, I'll be a man and say I can't beat you. I'm not going to [cry about it] ... I'm the first guy to say that somebody is better than me. I was the first guy to say Hakeem Olajuwon beat me in the [1995] NBA finals. He k!lled me. He dominated me. - SHAQ
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yea tony allen's just one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire league, he definitely wouldn't know if he's ever played zone

doc rivers wouldn't know if they ever played it. tom thibodeau is definitely known for his zone

keep digging that hole
 02-21-2012, 03:07 PM         #400
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 joshdogg26 said:
yea tony allen's just one of the best perimeter defenders in the entire league, he definitely wouldn't know if he's ever played zone

doc rivers wouldn't know if they ever played it. tom thibodeau is definitely known for his zone

keep digging that hole
I really dont care what they SAY

there were nazis who participated in the holocaust claiming it never happened


you should really look into some denial management counseling ASAP
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