Who Said That The Welker Dropped Pass Was Brady Fault?

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 6 years ago '04        #61
Cutty Olds 7 heat pts
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 King Jove said:
more of brady's fault.

over the shoulder, had to spin around to adjust, high and away for a 5-8 receiver with no ups.

should have place the ball in front of welker. blown coverage and no db was close enough to make a play on the ball.


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Dog..this is NOT Brady's fault...are you sh*tting me?!?!? haha Welker dropped a very reasonable "tough" catch....sh*t happens. Welker and Brady are still the motha fu*kas
 6 years ago '07        #62
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 Bea5T said:
slow motion makes it look easier

welker had to do alot just to gt into position to catch that

Bad pass.
it was a bad pass but welker had his hand on it so he should've caught it
 6 years ago '04        #63
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 D1nOnlyMrM@ said:
....branches' drop was worse
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This is the biggest truth in this thread
 02-06-2012, 01:47 PM         #64
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 Cutty Olds said:
Dog..this is NOT Brady's fault...are you sh*tting me?!?!? haha Welker dropped a very reasonable "tough" catch....sh*t happens. Welker and Brady are still the motha fu*kas
there was no need for an over the shoulder throw in that situation. welker had to make a hell of an adjustment to try to cover up a poor decision by brady.

brady made that pass tougher than it had to be.

both are at fault but to act like it's all welker and brady deserves no blame is laughable.


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 02-06-2012, 01:47 PM         #65
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 Cambury said:
underrated is the fact that Welker is not that type of receiver. Realistically he is a chemistry guy, they must have run that play 100 times in practice so of course if it's thrown off a built he would have difficulty. Welker maybe one of the best drastically but let's not make him to be better than he is.
True. Welker is a slot receiver and barely see a seam pass coming his way; however Welker was open Brady just missed the target. It caught been a great catch if made it but I'm not fault when the situation was pass could've been better while Wes was open.
 6 years ago '04        #66
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both of their faults. brady made the catch harder and welker dropped it


sh!t happens
 02-06-2012, 01:58 PM         #67
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 King Jove said:
there was no need for an over the shoulder throw in that situation. welker had to make a hell of an adjustment to try to cover up a poor decision by brady.

brady made that pass tougher than it had to be.

both are at fault but to act like it's all welker and brady deserves no blame is laughable.
Props. No one arguing the fact Welker dropped it, but it was effort to catch a bad throw while Wes was open that people ignoring. The pass wasn't necessary. If Brady lead Welker, its a TD, Pats SB champs.
 6 years ago '05        #68
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 Sub 0 said:
True. Welker is a slot receiver and barely see a seam pass coming his way; however Welker was open Brady just missed the target. It caught been a great catch if made it but I'm not fault when the situation was pass could've been better while Wes was open.
Routine... You work on that catch everyday as a receiver in college and pro. He even adjusted... Just did not make the catch. It's not a catch someone off the street makes but i would expect even a D-II receiver to make that catch.
 6 years ago '04        #69
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 King Jove said:
there was no need for an over the shoulder throw in that situation. welker had to make a hell of an adjustment to try to cover up a poor decision by brady.

brady made that pass tougher than it had to be.

both are at fault but to act like it's all welker and brady deserves no blame is laughable.
You got that from my post how?

Who cares if he had to adjust to it...he's a pro...he's Wes Welker, that what he is supposed to do...Not every throw is gonna be spot on..but if you get both hands on a balls your supposed to catch it. That's what makes you a Profefssional...Not the best throw no, but your not gonna sit here and tell me all them throws Eli made to his WR's where perfect either...they reeled them in because the ball was placed in a reasonable area where a professional starting wide receiver should be able to catch them.

Welker and is still that damn dude...he just dropped one...it happens
 6 years ago '05        #70
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That was a good pass. Going full speed on the field you can't make the a.ssumption that a pro safety won't get there. You have to a.ssume he will make a play on the ball. Brady put it over the corner away from the safety ( the only one who had a chance to make a play on the ball )where he was supposed to. Wes has to make the adjustment and the catch. their whole offense is based on reads and adjustments why should it be different now?
 6 years ago '05        #71
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If Brady lead the receiver the chance of him dropping the ball increases due to the defender making a play.
 02-06-2012, 02:08 PM         #72
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 Cutty Olds said:
Who cares if he had to adjust to it...he's a pro...he's Wes Welker, that what he is supposed to do...Not every throw is gonna be spot on..but if you get both hands on a balls your supposed to catch it. That's what makes you a Profefssional...Not the best throw no, but your not gonna sit here and tell me all them throws Eli made to his WR's where perfect either...they reeled them in because the ball was placed in a reasonable area where a professional starting wide receiver should be able to catch them.

Welker and is still that damn dude...he just dropped one...it happens
tom brady is supposed to one of the greatest qb's of all time right? a great qb should make a better throw.

you admit it was not a good throw so therefore tom deserves some blame for making the catch harder than it should be.

people hold tom to a higher standard as a quarterback than wes welker as a receiver and tom did not make a good throw for that situation.


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 02-06-2012, 02:09 PM         #73
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 Greece said:

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If Brady lead the receiver the chance of him dropping the ball increases due to the defender making a play.
we already went over how the defender was in no position to make a play


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 6 years ago '04        #74
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T.O would of caught that sh*t
 6 years ago '05        #75
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 King Jove said:
we already went over how the defender was in no position to make a play


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How do you know if he lead Wes the safety wouldn't have gotten there? I have seen plays where a defender was 3 yards away and was able to get a burst and make a play on a ball ( i.e corners baiting QB's all the time ). bottom line Brady made the safe throw Wes has to make that catch.
 6 years ago '05        #76
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 King Jove said:
we already went over how the defender was in no position to make a play


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Word I missed that discussion.

I can't see how Welker could have been led without 21 being in the play. The safe decision was made which resulted in a dropped pass...passes get dropped every now and then it's unfortunate that this was in the clutch.
 02-06-2012, 02:18 PM         #77
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 DocHollywood13 said:
How do you know if he lead Wes the safety wouldn't have gotten there? I have seen plays where a defender was 3 yards away and was able to get a burst and make a play on a ball ( i.e corners baiting QB's all the time ). bottom line Brady made the safe throw Wes has to make that catch.
he was not close.

he didn't even have the angle. he was too far in front of welker.

look at it again in real time


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 6 years ago '07        #78
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 King Jove said:
we already went over how the defender was in no position to make a play


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exactly why its both their fault brady made a bad pass... welker had all the space in the world and he had to adjust for that if he had caught that pass the catch >>>> throw
 6 years ago '04        #79
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I put more of the blame on brady. Welker could of caught the ball regardless. But the throw could of been made better to ensure an easier catch attempt.
 02-06-2012, 02:26 PM         #80
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 TH35 said:
exactly why its both their fault brady made a bad pass... welker had all the space in the world and he had to adjust for that if he had caught that pass the catch >>>> throw
:iagree:

that's all i'm saying
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