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 6 years ago '09        #21
ImAMonster 418 heat pts418
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So we're determining a players talent level or status by the number of TEAM rings he has? All Lebron needs to solidify his status is some Season MVP's. He can only do so much as an individual.

*NOT A fu*kING LEBRON d!ckRIDER* Could care less, just throwing my two cents in there..
 6 years ago '06        #22
hood135 2 heat pts
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Kobe and Mike never got pac-man ghost in crucial games and situations neither. They were always up for the challenge. In order for you to be great, you have to be able to handle pressure. LeBron has never done this.

I'll be ready to put him in that category once he gets over his phobia of the 4th quarter and consistently puts daggers in teams to win championships.
 6 years ago '04        #23
torious 69 heat pts69
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 bxrulez said:
Cmon son where are u getting these numbers from?

Bron for his career avg is 27.7ppg on 0.481 fg % and MJ is 30.1 ppg on .497 fg%

Bron got slightly better reb and a.sst numbers but its only by like 1 in each category and MJ blows him out in the steals category at a whooping 2.35 per game. Damn I forgot how nasty this niga was he almost averaged 3 steals per game FOR HIS CAREEER!
thisssssssssssssssssssssssss............. bron's lack of k!ller instinct and his desire to be a "billionaire global icon" arguably being greater than his drive to get better are the biggest things that will separate him from the Kobe/Jordan class. MJ not only wanted to beat his opponents, he wanted to embarrass them. badly. Same goes for Kobe, altho to a less extreme extent.. I don't see the same quality in Lebron.
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I know Bron did work on a post game this offseason with Dream, which was first of all, LONG fu*kING OVERDUE and it's about time.. But it does add a little more respect from me to his game..... But still, he's too much of a sensitive a.ss n*gga to handle all the criticism / scrutiny / media blasting to be on goat level status. If he thought he was ready to handle the criticism and scrutiny of a high-expectatiion fanbase and he REALLY was interested iin becoming regarded as the GOAT or even a billlionaire globall icon,, he would have chosen the Knicks during free agency. Instead, he took the bi*ch route, teamed up with a security blanked, and now ironically, he's getting roasted for it
 01-25-2012, 06:53 AM         #24
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 hood135 said:
Kobe and Mike never got pac-man ghost in crucial games and situations neither. They were always up for the challenge. In order for you to be great, you have to be able to handle pressure. LeBron has never done this.

I'll be ready to put him in that category once he gets over his phobia of the 4th quarter and consistently puts daggers in teams to win championships.
mj won only 1 out of 10 playoff games without pippen. just saying.
 6 years ago '05        #25
Rockstar718 69 heat pts69
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 SeaJaiye said:
lebron needs 1 or 2 to be ahead of kobe and maybe 3 or 4 to be ahead of jordan.................his numbers sh*t on theirs and he's just a better player overall.

these last few months of sh*tting on lebron for not having a ring is all they can cling on to
if jordan had lebrons body with todays rules jordan would have won a lot more than 6 championships

if anything dont compare because your arguement is invalid, if big men were allowed to clog the lane, if guards could hand check, lebrons numbers would be down overall, lebron's greatest quality is his size and natrual abilities, being that strong and fast is almost unfair in todays game
 6 years ago '04        #26
D1nOnlyMrM@ 43 heat pts43
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 jackedNtan said:
mj won only 1 out of 10 playoff series without pippen. just saying.
*fixed* and jordan will always be better than bron. bron is 0-2 in the finals.
 6 years ago '05        #27
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Lebron is a great talent and nobody can take that away from him. BUT he will never go down as one of the all time great overall players unless he steps up his game in the 4th and big games. Every sport solidifies the great players by how many championships you win. Why do Lebron fans try to say that doesn't matter???

Lebron embraced everyone calling him Kind James. Now when he is 8 years in and hasn't won anything people question him and the Lebron stans get mad ans start pulling out stats. Stats don't mean sh*t!!!! People in America want WINNERS!!!!!

Lebron has not proven to be a winner at the championship level so therefore he gets no love.
 6 years ago '06        #28
hood135 2 heat pts
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 jackedNtan said:
mj won only 1 out of 10 playoff games without pippen. just saying.
Not saying much. My point was that Jordan seized the moment when it was time to win games and win championships. This is something that all greats, regardless of what sport, do. LeBron runs from those moments.

There are cats on playgrounds all across the country that are or could've been better than Jordan but they aren't because they don't possess the combination of talent, skill, i.q., focus, persistence, determination, will, and fearlessness that he had.

That's greatness G and LeBron hasn't put it all together YET. That's a fair thing to say.
 6 years ago '07        #29
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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 0ddJoB said:
Hope you didn't put this together
I'm pretty sure he did.


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 6 years ago '10        #30
Rot10MilkSteak 1 heat pts
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 dahabi said:
Lebron = the eagles
 01-25-2012, 09:21 AM         #31
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 Rockstar718 said:
if jordan had lebrons body with todays rules jordan would have won a lot more than 6 championships

if anything dont compare because your arguement is invalid, if big men were allowed to clog the lane, if guards could hand check, lebrons numbers would be down overall, lebron's greatest quality is his size and natrual abilities, being that strong and fast is almost unfair in todays game
what if lebron had jordan's k!ller instinct??
 6 years ago '08        #32
portis187 29 heat pts29
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 Rockstar718 said:
if jordan had lebrons body with todays rules jordan would have won a lot more than 6 championships

if anything dont compare because your arguement is invalid, if big men were allowed to clog the lane, if guards could hand check, lebrons numbers would be down overall, lebron's greatest quality is his size and natrual abilities, being that strong and fast is almost unfair in todays game
if there was no zone like when jordan played, bron would have 2 rings
 01-25-2012, 09:28 AM         #33
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 bxrulez said:
Cmon son where are u getting these numbers from?

Bron for his career avg is 27.7ppg on 0.481 fg % and MJ is 30.1 ppg on .497 fg%

Bron got slightly better reb and a.sst numbers but its only by like 1 in each category and MJ blows him out in the steals category at a whooping 2.35 per game. Damn I forgot how nasty this niga was he almost averaged 3 steals per game FOR HIS CAREEER!
only player to average 25, 7, 7 for 4 years straight and on pace to do it again this year. teams were putting up 120 points a game in the 80s n 90s, thats why jordan's averages could be so high. lebron puts up 30 by accident, everyone knows if he didn't try to get his team involved, he could average 40 over a season jordan has more 50% seasons, but lebron is now getting into that part of his career. he won't have another season under 50% again
 01-25-2012, 12:55 PM         #34
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Y'all acting like Jordan aint take 8 yrs to get his chip and he never won without pippen and lets not forget this
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if lebron had that we wouldn't hear the end of it
 01-25-2012, 01:04 PM         #35
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 legendisdope said:
the man in the middle is better.. he played against real men not some jewish accountants
Good one
 6 years ago '06        #36
hood135 2 heat pts
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 legendisdope said:
the man in the middle is better.. he played against real men not some jewish accountants



























 01-25-2012, 01:19 PM         #37
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 6 years ago '10        #38
FrankAndBeans 27 heat pts27
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 SeaJaiye said:
lebron needs 1 or 2 to be ahead of kobe and maybe 3 or 4 to be ahead of jordan.................his numbers sh*t on theirs and he's just a better player overall.

these last few months of sh*tting on lebron for not having a ring is all they can cling on to

 6 years ago '09        #39
ii_show_off 67 heat pts67
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 SeaJaiye said:
lebron needs 1 or 2 to be ahead of kobe and maybe 3 or 4 to be ahead of jordan.................his numbers sh*t on theirs and he's just a better player overall.

these last few months of sh*tting on lebron for not having a ring is all they can cling on to
i'd hate to break it to you but numbers always lied...
 01-25-2012, 01:28 PM         #40
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 MPLSallstar said:
Just go it kid.
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