Pele "When Messi's scored 1,283 goals like me, when he's won three World Cups, we'll talk about it,"

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 6 years ago '09        #1
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ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244
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Pele "When Messi's scored 1,283 goals like me, when he's won three World Cups, we'll talk about it,"
 

 

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Brazil legend Pele says Barcelona's Argentina star Lionel Messi has a long way to go to be considered his rival as the greatest player of all time.

Messi, 24, has won Fifa's Ballon d'Or for the best player in the world for a third successive year.

But Pele thinks he needs to improve for Argentina and score more goals.
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"When Messi's scored 1,283 goals like me, when he's won three World Cups, we'll talk about it," Pele told French newspaper Le Monde.

Messi has won the Champions League three times with Barcelona, as well as five league Spanish league titles.

But his only triumph with the national team was at the 2008 Olympics - while Pele's Brazil won the World Cup in 1958, 1962 and 1970.

The 71-year-old said: "I like Messi a lot, he's a great player. Technically, we're practically at the same level.

"He's a great player for Barcelona, but when he plays for Argentina he doesn't have the same success.

"People always ask me: 'When is the new Pele going to be born?' Never. My father and mother have closed the factory."

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 BBC Sport - Pele says Lionel Messi is not the greatest ever player

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 6 years ago '12        #2
ZlatanDrogba 1 heat pts
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"Pele calado ť um poeta" by Romario.
 6 years ago '07        #3
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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Game set match point

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 01-20-2012, 05:38 PM         #4
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Pele had to meet his monthly quota of hating on Messi.

It would be lovely to see Brazil get handled in the 2014 World Cup by Messi and Argentina.


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 6 years ago '09        #5
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244 OP
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 KnicksLost said:
Game set match point

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Game set and match my bollocks, Messi is scoring 50 goals a season at the highest level and he isnt an out and out striker like Pele was. Messi has 33 goals and 16 a.ssists already this season, he wont score a 1000+ goals but his goals to games ratio will be really good

If its based solely on World cups there is no argument as its either Pele or one of his team mates that are the best ever because nobody else has won it that many times. They were both the star players in the 2 greatest teams ever, its very hard to compare players from such different eras football is a lot different now


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 6 years ago '04        #6
GodsFavorite 101 heat pts101
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why do these old guys always have to sh*t on the young guys. so fu*kin lame. if i was pele id say its not for me to say whos better
 6 years ago '09        #7
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244 OP
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 GodsFavorite said:
why do these old guys always have to sh*t on the young guys. so fu*kin lame. if i was pele id say its not for me to say whos better
Im surprised Pele is so arrogant in what he said (he is essentially saying he is the best ever which is fairly c*cky), maybe the fact Messi is Argentinian has something to do with it
 6 years ago '10        #8
quan3106 88 heat pts88
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If i was the greatest ever at something...i wouldnt want the new hot guy to be compared to me either...
 6 years ago '08        #9
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 ShadyVsEminem said:
Im surprised Pele is so arrogant in what he said (he is essentially saying he is the best ever which is fairly c*cky), maybe the fact Messi is Argentinian has something to do with it
Hell, even someone like Michael Jordan said Kobe can be compared to him. Has Pele even said that anyone new is a fair comparison?
 6 years ago '10        #10
Fly Elroy 321 heat pts321
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pele is the GOAT

end of story
 6 years ago '10        #11
Mocking Mind 2 heat pts
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By the time Messi retires, he will be the best player ever imo.
 6 years ago '09        #12
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244 OP
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 quan3106 said:
If i was the greatest ever at something...i wouldnt want the new hot guy to be compared to me either...
Messi has been a stand out player for 5 or 6 years, he just keeps getting more goals and more a.ssists each year now

This is what Ronaldinho said on receiving the Ballon d’Or in 2006 “This award says I’m the best player in the world, but I’m not even the best player at Barcelona.”
“Leo Messi reminds me more of Maradona, both left-footed and short, Messi is the best player in the world"

 stlcardinals19 said:
Has Pele even said that anyone new is a fair comparison?
I dont know he doesnt seem to humble so i doubt it
 6 years ago '08        #13
primetime 60 heat pts60
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 ondatpurple said:
pele is the GOAT

end of story
no he's not....He was the GOAT of his era but if you go back and watch the level of competition he played against you might change your opinion. He played against scrubs and would be NO WHERE as good if he played today.

There's little chance to believe that Messiah will be the goat when he's done...
 6 years ago '11        #14
maxnn 129 heat pts129
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Pele actually scored that many goals?
 6 years ago '07        #15
Bkjj11 3548 heat pts3548
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I dont follow soccer. But I be seeing final scores that be low as sh*t. Over 1,000 tho? Lol
 6 years ago '08        #16
primetime 60 heat pts60
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 Bkjj11 said:
I dont follow soccer. But I be seeing final scores that be low as sh*t. Over 1,000 tho? Lol
yes playing against what today is high school competition....i don't wanna knock him for that but it should be taken into account.
 6 years ago '08        #17
stlcardinals19 32 heat pts32
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 primetime said:
yes playing against what today is high school competition....i don't wanna knock him for that but it should be taken into account.
He played in the Brazilian Leagues right? Were the other top notch Brazilians playing exclusively there too? And if they didn't, why didn't any of the big European clubs arrange a large transfer for him?
 6 years ago '09        #18
BrooklynStiles 82 heat pts82
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World cups are overrated
 6 years ago '09        #19
ShadyVsEminem 244 heat pts244 OP
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 stlcardinals19 said:
He played in the Brazilian Leagues right? Were the other top notch Brazilians playing exclusively there too? And if they didn't, why didn't any of the big European clubs arrange a large transfer for him?
Football had not got big money in it back then and Europe might not of had the best leagues

^Back then World cups were good but now club football comes 1st for players because of money mainly, the last few world cups were sh*t
 6 years ago '10        #20
Fly Elroy 321 heat pts321
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 primetime said:
yes playing against what today is high school competition....i don't wanna knock him for that but it should be taken into account.
but thats basically what you're doing

disrespecting pele's legacy because of what YOU deem is inadequate competition in his day

bottom line is pele's career is the benchmark, the reference point, the measuring gauge of an elite football player who innovated and revolutionized the sport

and you calling messi "messiah" only shows your obviously biased. messi wouldnt be messi if the blueprint to be who he is wasnt already provided by pele

messi is a great player but dont get stupid
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