The Ducking is Complete: Arum: Pacquiao’s next fight will not be against Mayweather

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 6 years ago '10        #21
jmheight1 42 heat pts42 OP
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 22k said:
Arum will give them Pacquiao if he gets his money out of it - if both f!ghters get $50 million, Arum is going to want $50 million. Floyd wants the f!ght how & when he wants it and doesn't want Arum to get a penny out of it. Therefore, you are at a stalemate.

The real megaf!ght is Mayweather-Arum. If Arum wins that f!ght, then maybe we get Mayweather-Pacquiao. Otherwise, we don't get it. It's really that simple.
Whatever. Im just pointing out that they have tried to sit down to negotiate. And Arum turned them down.
 01-18-2012, 09:30 PM         #22
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 jmheight1 said:
Trying to make money by turning down the biggest Money f!ght in history, to continue to make way less Money in smaller f!ghts?

And Mayweather and Golden Boy announced they were going after the Manny f!ght the Week before the Marquez f!ght.

Damn some of you just dont want to put the blame on Arum and Manny like yall had no problem putting all the blame on Mayweather when it was his turn.
How do you know how much Arum is getting off of every Pacquiao f!ght? If he is pocketing $20 million or more for every in house TR f!ght, and Mayweather doesn't leave room for him to make more than that off a Pacquiao/Mayweather f!ght, then what is the upside for Arum? He makes no money and potentially loses his cash cow.

Arum is going to have to make just as much as both f!ghters for the f!ght to happen. In that case, yes I "blame" Arum for doing what a businessman would do instead of stepping aside for the fans. I also blame Mayweather for demanding blood testing when he didn't do it for his first 40 opponents and for retiring/vacationing for over a year, and for denying that there was a second round of negotiations when HBO and Top Rank both say that there were...

You are getting hung up on one person or one side being responsible for not making the f!ght. This is going on three years now. Both sides have been at fault - it just comes down to who you believe has been at fault more times than the other.


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 6 years ago '04        #23
killadre 229 heat pts229
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Can't remember the last time I called a man this... Bob is a B!TCH
 01-18-2012, 09:50 PM         #24
Ca$h Out 
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fu*k this n*gga..
 6 years ago '04        #25
creep 14 heat pts14
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50.00 he picked lamont peterson.
 01-18-2012, 10:10 PM         #26
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 creep said:
50.00 he picked lamont peterson.
That would be an easy f!ght, but I don't think that it brings enough to PPV. Arum said they are moving forward with building the outdoor stadium to seat 40,000 for June 9th. I think it has to be Marquez or Cotto.

They did like 50,000 people for Pacquiao/Clottey in Dallas, but I don't think they can do those numbers in Vegas with an opponent with no fanbase.

If it's Cotto, it is going to suck for Mayweather and Golden Boy. They are going to have to pull something good to come up with a marketable opponent for Floyd on 5/5. GB isn't giving him Canelo because he is too young and making too much $$$ to sacrifice this soon - he'll be around to make big money for them long after Mayweather retires if he keeps winning...

I still think Berto/Ortiz 2 probably gets cancelled and one of them gets the f!ght. Martinez is the only other good f!ght out there, but he brings nothing to PPV for non-diehard boxing fans and Floyd will get no credit for beating him if he has to come all the way down to 150 to get the f!ght. Floyd is no better than Roach and Pacquiao if he is saying it has to be a catchweight f!ght at 150 - why not 154 or even 160 and take the Ring Middleweight title off of him? I guess Martinez would probably be like 170+ on f!ght night and Floyd isn't looking to give him 20 lbs...


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 01-18-2012, 10:21 PM         #27
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 6 years ago '04        #28
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 22k said:
I also blame Mayweather for demanding blood testing when he didn't do it for his first 40 opponents and for retiring/vacationing for over a year,
Taking mutual blood test is no problem for an innocent person
during that retirement time i say the only person worth f!ghting was cotto imo
 01-18-2012, 10:34 PM         #29
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I'm a stan for both of these f!ghters, but on behalf of the Pacquiao fans who will not say it.... I will say it for them....



Pacquiao is ducking Mayweather.
 6 years ago '06        #30
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Honestly think this f!ght is never going to happen, ever.

I mean to the public all boxing really has for star power is Mayweather and Pacquiao. Boxing continues to make boatloads off both of these cash cows because the general public really wants to see them f!ght each other, that's the aura that they have.

What happens for boxing after these 2 f!ght each other? Boxing would just be left with one alpha dog f!ghting scraps until he is knocked off...Who does boxing have that generates the kind of money Mayweather and Pacquiao bring in each and every f!ght that they can ride going forward?

IMO until boxing has some kind of next great young f!ghter then this f!ght won't happen. Unless they are both old as hell and past their prime like the Jones vs Hopkins II f!ght smfh
 6 years ago '04        #31
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don't look like this f!ght will ever happen because of this


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 6 years ago '04        #32
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Money talks... if there is more money to be made 3 weeks later whats stopping Floyd? Oh he has the date locked in... he can move it. Isn't he the one trying to change all the rules in boxing?

Both have been ducking each other. Floyd for 1 year and Manny for the next year. Money talks... make the f!ght happen Floyd, Manny, Arum or whoever.
 6 years ago '05        #33
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paqs legacy is ruined due to bob arum
 6 years ago '04        #34
CoconutCoke 6 heat pts
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Gonna be Cotto. Wack.
 6 years ago '05        #35
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This is not about "Making Money" for Bob. This is about making sure the rival promotions who left you in the cold (GBP, Mayweather Promotions) DON'T make any money.
 6 years ago '11        #36
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damn i loved manny.
i cant defend this tho.
fail. hope he loses.
 6 years ago '04        #37
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 01-18-2012, 11:47 PM         #38
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 01-18-2012, 11:55 PM         #39
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Floyd MJ: I want Manny may 5th

Pacman: I will f!ght may 5th if that's what the fans want.

Bob Arum: oh no you won't

THE END.
 6 years ago '10        #40
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 dogmanx23 said:
Money talks... if there is more money to be made 3 weeks later whats stopping Floyd? Oh he has the date locked in... he can move it. Isn't he the one trying to change all the rules in boxing?

Both have been ducking each other. Floyd for 1 year and Manny for the next year. Money talks... make the f!ght happen Floyd, Manny, Arum or whoever.
So you're just gonna forget that Manny agreed to the May 5th date then all of a sudden his statement was taken down from his own official site?
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