Is LeBron Jame$ Better Without D-Wade? (poll)

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Is LeBron Jame$ Better Without D-Wade?
Yes 142 65.74%
No 74 34.26%
Voters: 216. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 6 years ago '07        #81
joshdogg26 194 heat pts194
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my bad, i didn't realize the caliber of human being i was dealing with here *slowly exits thread*
 01-05-2012, 05:08 PM         #82
bigree61  OP
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No question
 6 years ago '07        #83
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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 joshdogg26 said:
*slowly exits thread*
About damn time! Most annoying Heat fan ever... and I like the Heat too.


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 6 years ago '07        #84
joshdogg26 194 heat pts194
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nobody likes being exposed for being a fu*king moron. if i annoyed u, it's cuz i did a good job.
 6 years ago '05        #85
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n*ggas in here making excuses for wade . he has nor never will be a better player then lBJ he is not. wade could never lead his team in the east outta of the 1st round. U can make all the excuses you want he wasn't healthy he didnt have a good team bla bla he never got them out of the 1st damn round period.

Bron lead his team to finals and won mvps wade never did anything close to that. Plus its so funny how everyone wants to scream that its wade team all the time when they win. But if they lose its all Bron fault Bron didn't do this Bron didn't do that. But I THOUGHT IT WAS WADE TEAM THOU if wade was so great why couldn't he single handle carry them in the finals cause he is not the best player they can't win if bron not playing well that should tell u something .
 6 years ago '07        #86
joshdogg26 194 heat pts194
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 MPLSallstar said:


Baby Flash.

Who does the ball go to in the clutch?

"dwayne wade in finals= finalsmvp/championship
lebron james in finals=swept 4-0 by spurs"


The only thing Lebron had over Wade was rebounds, and he's a forward.
it's easy to forget there r beings of lesser intelligence on this site who can't all understand basketball at the same level. u waste all this time trying to explain something to them and they just can't get it, they want to argue with opinions and information that is verifiably untrue. what can u do?
 6 years ago '06        #87
PG-13 126 heat pts126
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He's been doing this since Cavs days

but doubts on being better without Wade.
 01-16-2012, 09:43 AM         #88
LaRy BLanco  OP
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 joshdogg26 said:
and 2009-2010, in which we made the playoffs and lost to the higher seeded celtics (and so did lebron's cavs)

its crazy how boston took both us and the cavs out back to back but u could clearly see
who was the better player in those series alone

lebron went out like a little bi*ch and wade went out like a soldier
and lebron was gettin waaaay more help


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46 points wit 67% shooting:cool-smiley-009:

D3 went down swingin
 01-16-2012, 09:47 AM         #89
SeaJaiye  OP
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 LAwLB15 said:
its crazy how boston took both us and the cavs out back to back but u could clearly see
who was the better player in those series alone

lebron went out like a little bi*ch and wade went out like a soldier
and lebron was gettin waaaay more help


46 points wit 67% shooting:cool-smiley-009:

D3 went down swingin
and then they came together and lebron was the reason they closed out the celtics........... no one actually believes that d wade is a better player than lebron, stop it
 01-16-2012, 09:57 AM         #90
LaRy BLanco  OP
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 Hold That said:

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LeBron stans vs. Heat Fans.


It was bound to happen.
fu*king

them ex-cavs fans in here talkin reckless
 01-16-2012, 10:07 AM         #91
SeaJaiye  OP
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 LAwLB15 said:
fu*king

them ex-cavs fans in here talkin reckless
n*gga u gonna stop callin me a fkin cavs fan fk cleveland
 01-16-2012, 10:08 AM         #92
LaRy BLanco  OP
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
Bron lead his team to finals and won mvps wade never did anything close to that. Plus its so funny how everyone wants to scream that its wade team all the time when they win. But if they lose its all Bron fault Bron didn't do this Bron didn't do that. But I THOUGHT IT WAS WADE TEAM THOU if wade was so great why couldn't he single handle carry them in the finals cause he is not the best player they can't win if bron not playing well that should tell u something .
this n*gga just say wade didnt lead his team to the finals when he got the franchise their first ring/finals mvp????

its crazy how something like this would even come from a kobe stan when shaq and kobe won rings back to back and Kobe was playing sidekick (n*gga couldnt even get 1 finals mvp out of the 3peat)

but when shaq did it with wade who was playin sidekick??? ill let Wades finals mvp speak for itself

Wade>>>>lebron/kobe

get healthy D3 we miss u hopefully bron and bosh hold down the fort while u gone

im out bi*ches
 6 years ago '07        #93
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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 LAwLB15 said:
Wade>>>>lebron/kobe
Wade ain't sniffed the finals or even the conference championship since Shaq left. The only reason Wade was in the finals last year was because of Lebron. Let's get that straight. Wade is the type of player that's good to have on a championship squad, but he is not the type of player that will lead his team to the championship.
 01-16-2012, 10:20 AM         #94
LaRy BLanco  OP
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 Bullseye said:
Wade ain't sniffed the finals or even the conference championship since Shaq left. The only reason Wade was in the finals last year was because of Lebron. Let's get that straight. Wade is the type of player that's good to have on a championship squad, but he is not the type of player that will lead his team to the championship.


n*gga kobe and sniff the finals for YEARS after shaq left

only reason he bounced back was because of gasol

so ur point???
 01-16-2012, 10:32 AM         #95
LaRy BLanco  OP
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 SeaJaiye said:
n*gga u gonna stop callin me a fkin cavs fan fk cleveland
n*gga stfu only reason u screamin fu*k cleveland cuz lebron left

d!ckridin a.ss n*gga


and wtf people in here actin like lebron aint have a waay better squad last couple of years than Wade, people giving bron waay too much credit

if we had the 09-10 cavs vs 09-10 heat and take out lebron & wade cavs still wouldve been a far better team, even mike brown>>>erik spo

our team was broken on so many levels, it was even funny, we wre way past due

and thats why we aint been aint been to the finals since


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 01-17-2012, 07:54 PM         #96
SeaJaiye  OP
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33, 5, 10 and led his team from down 17 points to winning by 20+ tried to tell em.........bosh + bron is dominance. wade should sit out until playoffs.......
 6 years ago '04        #97
serty321 8 heat pts
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 SeaJaiye said:
33, 5, 10 and led his team from down 17 points to winning by 20+ tried to tell em.........bosh + bron is dominance. wade should sit out until playoffs.......




I do think they shouldn't rush him back though. Gonna have to wrap him up in cotton wool until he's actually ready to come back...season still relatively early so dont rush him Spo!
 6 years ago '07        #98
joshdogg26 194 heat pts194
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But let's take a step back for a moment. LeBron's production without Wade is off the charts, but is that necessarily a good thing? Put another way, does LeBron's individual production translate to team success?

This is where the "Heat are better off without Wade!" argument goes off the rails. Since LeBron joined Miami, the Heat's offense has flourished with Wade and LeBron on the court together, even if the narratives don't see it that way. With the dynamic duo sharing the court, the Heat have scored 112 points per 100 possessions. LeBron alone? Drops to 104.1 points.

Overall, the Heat have outscored opponents by 11.9 points per 100 possessions when LeBron and Wade play alongside each other and "only" 6.3 points per 100 possessions when LeBron plays without Wade.

That's a lot of numbers, but conclusion is important: LeBron might be better off without Wade, but the team isn't. And LeBron knew this when he made "The Decision" to come to Miami and play next to two other stars. He sacrificed his personal numbers for a better chance to win it all.

It's also true that the Heat are 3-0 with Wade sidelined this season, but one of those wins came against the Nets, which -- let's be honest -- shouldn't really count. Interestingly enough, the Heat have performed slightly better with Wade on the bench this season, but that probably has as much to do with his playing on gimpy legs as anything. If we expand the sample size to last season, we see that the Heat aren't any better off with Wade out of the picture. It's clear that the Heat need Wade on the floor if they want to win the championship.



as if we didn't already know how stupid this was...


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 01-19-2012, 08:40 PM         #99
SeaJaiye  OP
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5-0 without wade now and another blowout..................tried to tell em...............31, 8, 8
 6 years ago '08        #100
YoungRay20 290 heat pts290
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 Bullseye said:
Wade ain't sniffed the finals or even the conference championship since Shaq left. The only reason Wade was in the finals last year was because of Lebron. Let's get that straight. Wade is the type of player that's good to have on a championship squad, but he is not the type of player that will lead his team to the championship.
hmm I'd say they needed each other.

He can play with Wade and He will player hard without Wade because he needs to. PLus he gets more touches without Wade so he flows better. This is really Spos Broken offense in q4 fault.
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