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 6 years ago '07        #141
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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 gGgM35 said:
Brett would love to have what they have up there now back in his prime.
he sure would of...people passed of his comments on rodgers and the talent they have now earlier this year as hate but he was right
 6 years ago '04        #142
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 Pistol Peter said:
he sure would of...people passed of his comments on rodgers and the talent they have now earlier this year as hate but he was right
favre had better backs throughout his career and ran the west coast offense to a T, weapons were great for their time
 6 years ago '07        #143
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 finishim said:
favre had better backs throughout his career and ran the west coast offense to a T, weapons were great for their time
favre did have better running backs...but he never had as many weapons at one time that erin has now
 6 years ago '05        #144
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 e G o Maniac said:
8th round :jacmonson:
Me too he won me 3 leagues.
 6 years ago '04        #145
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 Pistol Peter said:
favre did have better running backs...but he never had as many weapons at one time that erin has now
it's all about the system, and also favre had one of the best lines of the 90s-00s
 6 years ago '05        #146
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 Chi80sbaby said:
Dan Marino

John Elway

Brett Favre

They're elite qb's w/ out a stud WR.

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 6 years ago '07        #147
Pistol Peter 33 heat pts33
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 finishim said:
it's all about the system, and also favre had one of the best lines of the 90s-00s
you trying to be sarcastic lil n*gga?
 6 years ago '04        #148
finishim 80 heat pts80
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n it's amazing how fast you guys forget Robert brooks chmura Jackson levens etc
 01-06-2012, 12:08 PM         #149
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 SmooveDude said:
robert brooks was good too
 finishim said:
n it's amazing how fast you guys forget Robert brooks chmura Jackson levens etc
i forgot about chmura but i hated dorsey
 6 years ago '04        #150
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 Chi80sbaby said:
Dan Marino

John Elway

Brett Favre


They're elite qb's w/ out a stud WR.
Marino- Mark Clayton, Mark Duper, Best offensive line in football

Elway(never threw for 30td one 4,000 yard season)- 2 Thousand Yard rusher Terrell Davis(SB MVP), HOF Shannon Sharpe

Farve-Sterling Sharpe, Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman

why would not having an elite WR be criteria for being an elite QB I ask though? Just trying to fit the argument to suit your case.
 6 years ago '04        #151
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 WasabiTuna said:
they played three seasons together.
this and Sterling was ALL PRO not just any old receiver...

when your QB not named Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Stafford throws for 5k then we can bring this back up. Fact of the matter is Staf had an ELITE season if you dont want to label him elite just yet that's fine but stop coming up with excuses for him having this season.

Fact of the matter is Matt has a top 5 arm, is the leader of his team and the best young player in the NFL. So whatthefu*kever.
 6 years ago '10        #152
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 6 years ago '04        #153
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 SmooveDude said:
5k yards aint elite? if 5k is above average then tell me and ill say ok

people throw the word elite around like its nothing

there are only 3 elite qbs because an argument can be made that any 1 of the 3 is the best cuz they are basically all on the same level. (peyton is, but lets see if he can come back and be the same)

u cant put a qb like stafford in the elite class cuz that would mean he is interchangeable with brees, brady, and rodgers, and sorry, but no argument can be made for him being better are even as good as those 3 right now
 6 years ago '04        #154
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 Plizaya J said:
people throw the word elite around like its nothing

there are only 3 elite qbs because an argument can be made that any 1 of the 3 is the best cuz they are basically all on the same level. (peyton is, but lets see if he can come back and be the same)

u cant put a qb like stafford in the elite class cuz that would mean he is interchangeable with brees, brady, and rodgers, and sorry, but no argument can be made for him being better are even as good as those 3 right now
you can that case.

But but but at 23 Matt is leaps and bounds ahead of any mentioned QB, and that's a fact. So really if you put Stafford on the Saints or Packers they would still be in damn good shape.

The man make ALL the throws that any "elite" QB has ever made.
 01-06-2012, 01:12 PM         #155
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 Plizaya J said:
people throw the word elite around like its nothing

there are only 3 elite qbs because an argument can be made that any 1 of the 3 is the best cuz they are basically all on the same level. (peyton is, but lets see if he can come back and be the same)

u cant put a qb like stafford in the elite class cuz that would mean he is interchangeable with brees, brady, and rodgers, and sorry, but no argument can be made for him being better are even as good as those 3 right now
i see what you mean....i guess my elite means different like i know brees, big brother manning, brady and rodgers are better than stafford but i say he's the closest to them...i know he's nowhere near them as far as resume's but this year he's making a case to being one of the best young QB's
 6 years ago '07        #156
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 WasabiTuna said:
they played three seasons together.
i'm no expert at packer history and i am sure that you would know more than me but didn't favre sit a year before actually playing and then he came in for a year and right after that year sharpe had his career ending injury?
 6 years ago '04        #157
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stafford isn't elite yet, but he's definitely top ten, this is his first full year, obviously has to be consistent, but he is on the right path, and there doesn't only have to be 3-4 elite qbs, this is a different era and it's always possible that some of the best could be around at the same time
 6 years ago '04        #158
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he matthew elite as of now no. does he have the potential absolutely. as long as he remains healthy and we continue to surround him with talent. he needs a better o-line. a real running game. one full year starting look at his numbers. they speak for themselves. it just makes me wonder how we wouldve did with him under center all those games he missed. probably wouldve had better records.
 6 years ago '11        #159
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 6 years ago '09        #160
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 Pistol Peter said:
i'm no expert at packer history and i am sure that you would know more than me but didn't favre sit a year before actually playing and then he came in for a year and right after that year sharpe had his career ending injury?
nope favre came in game 2 of the 1992 season after being traded for before the season. sharpe got injured end of 1994 season but played out the season.
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