I feel like Jay holds Kanye back now, it's been clear that he's eclipsed him creatively for a while now...Kanye's shows are more entertaining, his musicianship has hit its peak and he seems more comfortable with himself both musically and personally through his music than ever before. Plus, he has still not put out a poor album and his poorest one both lyrically and production wise has been the one with Jay. It's sad that Watch The Throne was the follow up to MBDTF and 808's, even though some people hate 808's, that album had some of Kanye's best compositions to date and MBDTF was Kanye's most self-aware and critically successful album yet.
Jay just seems fine with mediocrity these days, he's become too formulaic. American Gangster was fantastic but that was 4 years ago and since then, he hasn't had much quality music. sh*t like New Day, Made In Amerca, murder To Excellence etc. is great, introspective and meaningful stuff but it baffles me that a 42 year old can put out a song like n*ggas in Paris and sound identical to every other cookie cutter pop-rapper these days after over 10 albums...They should just stay in their own lanes now, Kanye is more ambitious and more creative without Jay and Jay can still pen hits, but it's kinda sad to see that Kanye wasted his time, in my opinion, doing WTT when he could've extended what was so good about MBDTF and made another album by now...
EDIT: call me a Jay hater or whatever...but if you've been a fan of Jay's music for time, WTT wasn't a more mature or grown up album or whatever than Blueprint. Never Change, Heart Of The City, Can't Be Life, Encore...that was quality, mature Kanye/Jay-Z music, not this n*ggas In Paris, Welcome to the Jungle, HAM, Gotta Have It sh*t...
Did you honestly just say WTT is Kanye's worst album, lyrically? He stepped up A LOT on WTT, to the point where he was able to stand his own next to an MC like Jay-Z...you thought he was weak on No Church? New Day? Primetime? Otis? MTE? Made in America?
"Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses, sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive. I get it custom, you a customer, you ain't accustomed to going through customs, you ain't been nowhere huh?"
How is that weak?
as far as Jay goes, I made a thread about that and I stand by it...Jay on WTT > Jay on Blueprint 1...the first Blueprint is overrated lyrically...his performance on WTT was outstanding and was a HUGE step up from Blueprint 3 (which was painfully mediocre)...I really don't see how you can call Welcome to the Jungle mediocre...or Gotta Have It (did you skip over the Richard Pryor line?)...there's nothing inherently wrong with braggadocio raps, they've been pretty integral to hip hop since the beginning...as long as the artist executes it with a healthy amount of wit and humor (as is the case with Watch the Throne), braggadocio content can be fantastically entertaining...
Oh, and Heart of the City is overrated..."I bounce up like roundball"? "pack heat like the oven door" ? As I said, WTT Jay > Blueprint Jay