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Dec 8 - Iran shows off US drone undamaged.US and Israeli intelligence shocked
 

 

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Iran shows off US drone undamaged. US and Israeli intelligence shocked

Iran exhibited the top-secret US stealth drone RQ-170 Sentinel captured on Sunday, Dec. 4. Its almost perfect condition confirmed Tehran's claim that the UAV was downed by a cyber attack, meaning it was not shot down but brought in undamaged by an electronic warfare ambush.
This is a major debacle for the stealth technology the US uses in its warplanes and the drone technology developed by the US and Israel.
The state of the lost UAV refutes the US military contention that the Sentinel's systems malfunctioned. If this had happened, it would have crashed and either been wrecked or damaged. The condition of the RQ-170 intact obliges the US and Israel to make major changes in plans for a potential strike against Iran's nuclear program.
Earlier Thursday, DEBKAfile reported:
The Obama administration's decision after internal debate not to send US commando or air units into Iran to retrieve or destroy the secret RQ-170 stealth drone which fell into Iranian hands has strengthened the hands of the Israeli faction which argues the case for striking Iran's nuclear installations without waiting for the Americans to make their move.
Senior Israeli diplomatic and security officials who followed the discussion in Washington concluded that, by failing to act, the administration has left Iran not only with the secrets of the Sentinel's stealth coating, its sensors and cameras, but also with the data stored in its computer cells on targets marked out by the US and/or Israeli for attack.
DEBKAfile’s military sources say that this knowledge compels the US and Israel to revise their plans of attack for aborting the Iranian nuclear program.
Like every clandestine weapons system, the RQ-170 had a self-destruct mechanism to prevent its secrets spilling out to the enemy in the event of a crash or capture. This did not happen. Tehran was able to claim the spy drone was only slightly damaged when they downed it.
The NATO spokesman claimed control was lost of the US UAV and it went missing, a common occurrence for these unmanned aircraft.
The enigmas surrounding its capture continue to pile up. How did Iran know the drone had entered its airspace? How was it caused to land? Most of all, why did the craft's self-destruct mechanism which is programmed to activate automatically fail to work? And if it malfunctioned, why was it not activated by remote control?
Thursday, Dec. 8, The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal reported that from Sunday, Dec. 4, when Tehran announced the stealth drone's capture, the Obama administration weighed sending special commando forces into Iran from bases in Afghanistan to bring the downed aircraft back to Afghanistan or blow it up to destroy the almost intact secret systems - either by a sneak operation or by an air strike.
Iranian officials said the drone was detected near the Iranian town of Kashmar, 200 kilometers from the Afghan border and presumably moved to a military or air base inside the country. The NYT disclosed that the special force would have used "allied agents inside Iran" to hunt down the missing aircraft, the first time Washington has admitted to support from "allied agents" operating covertly in Iran.
In the end, the paper quoted a US official as explaining that the attack option was ruled out "because of the potential it could become a larger incident." If an a.ssault team entered the country, the US "could be accused of an act of war" by Tehran.
The Obama administration's internal discussion on how to handle the loss of the high-value reconnaissance drone was followed tensely in Jerusalem. The decision it took against mounting a mission to recover or destroy the top-secret Sentinel was perceived in Israel as symptomatic of a wider decision to call off the covert war America has been conducting for some months against Iran's drive for a nuclear bomb – at least until the damage caused by RQ-170 incident is fully a.ssessed.
A senior Israeli security official had this to say: “Everything that’s happened around the RQ-170 shows that when it comes to Iran and its nuclear program, the Obama administration and Israel have different objectives. On this issue, each country needs to go its own way.”



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 6 years ago '05        #2
Freemind 41 heat pts41
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"Not bad huh?"





















"Not bad at all"



Crazy how they brought it down through cyber attack... sh*t is getting serious.
 6 years ago '05        #3
Freemind 41 heat pts41
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Ps... gotta love how the government lied about this too and are now caught in the lie.

They kept saying "no, they got a different one that was downed a week ago"

Gotta love the attempt at propoganda
 6 years ago '07        #4
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 Freemind said:
Ps... gotta love how the government lied about this too and are now caught in the lie.

They kept saying "no, they got a different one that was downed a week ago"

Gotta love the attempt at propoganda
mhm.


Interesting turn of events. I'm not sure if some other country helped Iran but I'm not thrilled either way. A war is brewing Won't be long until we have another excuse to waste billions of dollars.
 6 years ago '05        #5
Freemind 41 heat pts41
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 sjrocc05 said:
gotta love how they lied again and told us it was shot down the bigger question, does 99% of America care? nope get that new iphone and thats all that matters
I don't have a single friend that has a iphone.

Androids up in this bi*ch >>>



Really though... the sad truth is easily 75% of the US won't know this happened, 10% will hear about it and not care, another 10% will hear about it on FOX and believe that its a different drone that Iran didn't even down , and 5% will care but nobody else will so it doesn't matter
 6 years ago '11        #6
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The question is did they want them to capture this to in rage Iran into attacking the US or Israel. Think about it for a second.
 6 years ago '05        #7
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 Suppafresh said:
The question is did they want them to capture this to in rage Iran into attacking the US or Israel. Think about it for a second.
Why would Iran attack us after they cyberattacked a drone and successfully took it down?

It should be the other way around.

We lose a drone, we get pissy, we go and take it back.

They were atleast intelligent enough to understand it wouldn't be smart to go into Iran with american troops. Iran would instantly call it an act of war and start going crazy.

But sure enough gay-ass Israel wanted us (not them... cause they're bichiz) to go and get it.... Israel wants a war to start, you can tell by their comments.

The puppet master (Israel) trying to control the puppet (US)


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 6 years ago '11        #8
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 Freemind said:
Why would Iran attack us after they cyberattacked a drone and successfully took it down?

It should be the other way around.

We lose a drone, we get pissy, we go and take it back.

They were atleast intelligent enough to understand it wouldn't be smart to go into Iran with american troops. Iran would instantly call it an act of war and start going crazy.

But sure enough gay-ass Israel wanted us (not them... cause they're bichiz) to go and get it.... Israel wants a war to start, you can tell by their comments.

The puppet master (Israel) trying to control the puppet (US)
When u violate the sovereignty of a country it's war. Are they strike back.
 6 years ago '11        #9
GetuOne 73 heat pts73
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yeah, we're F8cked. When they see what we have on that drone (i.e the sh*t load of bomb targets we marked up) they are going to declare that an act of war and shoot those 150,000 missles at Israel. I mean what do you think American would do if we shot down a drone on our soil and hit had the White house, Pentigon and like 3 nuclear site marked for a bombing? We'd raise hell.
 6 years ago '10        #10
Trilluminati GA 433 heat pts433
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damn what dumb a.ss liars they made our govt out to be, wait they already......


 6 years ago '04        #11
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The few articles I read, were saying the technology on the RQ-170 Sentinel was outdated and it didn't matter
 6 years ago '05        #12
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 bouncer900 said:
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The few articles I read, were saying the technology on the RQ-170 Sentinel was outdated and it didn't matter
Even if it is, it still has all the targets for attacks on it.

Which is way more valuable then the technology found on it.
 6 years ago '04        #13
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 Freemind said:
I don't have a single friend that has a iphone.

Androids up in this bi*ch >>>



Really though... the sad truth is easily 75% of the US won't know this happened, 10% will hear about it and not care, another 10% will hear about it on FOX and believe that its a different drone that Iran didn't even down , and 5% will care but nobody else will so it doesn't matter
U ain't never lied!! Truth
 6 years ago '04        #14
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 Freemind said:
Even if it is, it still has all the targets for attacks on it.

Which is way more valuable then the technology found on it.
remote erase.
 6 years ago '06        #15
Storchaveli 94 heat pts94
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No pics?
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 Storchaveli said:
No pics?

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 6 years ago '05        #17
Freemind 41 heat pts41
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 hockeythug said:
remote erase.
I think if Iran can take control of it, land it hardly damage, the self destruction didn't work, and they didn't remote detonate it...

Then its safe to say there is no remote erase feature that will work
 6 years ago '11        #18
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doesn't even matter really, not like they are going to be able to replicate it or use one, only people who could would be chinese or russians, but they already have their own.

They should just trade some reduced sanctions for it.
 6 years ago '05        #19
Freemind 41 heat pts41
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 superdrunken said:
doesn't even matter really, not like they are going to be able to replicate it or use one, only people who could would be chinese or russians, but they already have their own.

They should just trade some reduced sanctions for it.
Iran has had stealth drones since the 80s kid.

And they landed this themselves... aka they flew it too the ground with little damage. They took control of it.

Drink another beer.
 12-08-2011, 06:22 PM         #20
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