Dec 2 - US Senate declares the entire USA to be a ”battleground”

most viewed right now
 48
Some confused X Men actors think they won't be Recast :mjlol:
68 comments
@movies
most viewed right now
 47
Video inside Breaking News: Everyday Struggle W Joe Budden & Akademiks Won't Be Back..
66 comments
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 36
Article inside Details in Child Sex Complaint Against Rapper 6ix9ine Contradict His ..
261 comments
@hiphop
most viewed right now
 35
NBA LeBron James Covered His Mouth While Talking To Lonzo Ball After The Game ..
76 comments
@sports

section   (0 bx goons and 1 bystanders) Share this on Twitter   Share this on Facebook
 

Props Slaps
 6 years ago '04        #61
akalimelazer 8 heat pts
space
space
space
$363 | Props total: 8 8
^yes its very funny everything our forefathers worked for & our future gets abolished
 6 years ago '11        #62
Suppafresh 26 heat pts26
space
avatar space
space
$6,090 | Props total: 265 265
NDAA passage, final transcript from Senate Floor
by Raffaela Wakeman

The Senate passed the NDAA (S. 1867) last night on a 93-7 vote. The seven senators who voted against final passage are:

Coburn
Harkin
Lee
Merkley
Paul
Sanders
Wyden
The bill now moves on to a conference with the House. You can read the transcript from yesterday’s debate on the detainee provisions here, and previous days’ debates here,*here*and*here. Senator Feinstein’s amendment to limit the applicability of the detention provisions to those captured abroad was rejected, as we noted yesterday, in a 45-55 vote, as was Amendment 1126. She proposed a later amendment “of a perfecting nature”:
* *Mrs. FEINSTEIN. Mr. President, I wish to explain what has happened this long afternoon. Originally some of us, namely Senators*Leahy, Durbin, Udall*of Colorado,*Kirk, Lee, Harkin, Webb, Wyden, Merkley,*and myself, realized that there was a fundamental flaw in section 1031 of the bill.

There is a difference of opinion as to whether there is this a fundamental flaw. We believe the current bill essentially updates and restates the authorization for use of military force that was passed on September 18, 2001. Despite my support for a general detention authority, the provision in the original bill, in our view, went too far. The bill before us would allow the government to detain U.S. citizens without charge until the end of hostilities. We have had long discussions on this.

The disagreement arises from different interpretations of what the current law is. The sponsors of the bill believe that current law authorizes the detention of U.S. citizens arrested within the United States, without trial, until “the end of the hostilities” which, in my view, is indefinitely.

Others of us believe that current law, including the Non-Detention Act that was enacted in 1971, does not authorize such indefinite detention of U.S. citizens arrested domestically. The sponsors believe that the Supreme Court’s Hamdi case supports their position, while others of us believe that Hamdi, by the plurality opinion’s express terms, was limited to the circumstance of U.S. citizens arrested on the battlefield in Afghanistan, and does not extend to U.S. citizens arrested domestically. And our concern was that section 1031 of the bill as originally drafted could be interpreted as endorsing the broader interpretation of Hamdi and other authorities.

So our purpose in the second amendment, number 1456, is essentially to declare a truce, to provide that section 1031 of this bill does not change existing law, whichever side’s view is the correct one. So the sponsors can read Hamdi and other authorities broadly, and opponents can read it more narrowly, and this bill does not endorse either side’s interpretation, but leaves it to the courts to decide.

Because the distinguished chairman, the distinguished ranking member, and the Senator from South Carolina a.ssert that it is not their intent in section 1031 to change current law, these discussions went on and on and they resulted in two amendments: our original amendment, which covers only U.S. citizens, which says they cannot be held without charge or trial, and a compromise amendment to preserve current law, which I shall read:

On page 360, between lines 21 and 22, insert the following:

***Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

***I believe this meets the concerns of the leadership of the committee and this is presented as an alternative. There are those of us who would like to vote for the original amendment, which I intend to do, as well as for this modifying amendment. They will appear before you as a side-by-side, so everyone will have the chance to vote yea or nay on the original or yea or nay on the compromise. As I said, I would urge that we vote yes on both.

This is not going to be the world as we see it postvote, but I will tell you this, the chairman and the ranking member have agreed that the modified language presented in the second vote will be contained in the conference; that they will do everything they can to contain this language in the conference.

In the original amendment–my original amendment–which affects only U.S. citizens, that is not the case. They are likely to drop that amendment. So I wish to make the point by voting for both, and I would hope others would do the same. I think a lot has been gained. I think a clear understanding has been gained of the problems inherent in the original bill. I think Members came to the conclusion that they did not want to change present law and they wanted to extend this preservation of current law not only to citizens but to legal resident aliens as well as any other persons arrested in the United States. That would mean they could not be held without charge and without trial. So the law would remain the same as it is today and has been practiced for the last 10 years.

I actually believe it is easy to say either my way or the highway. I want to get something done. I want to be able to a.ssure people in the United States that their rights under American law are protected. The compromise amendment, which is the second amendment we will be voting on, does that. It provides the a.ssurance that the law will remain the same and will not affect the right of charge and the right of trial of any U.S. citizen, any lawful legal alien or any other person in the United States. We have the commitment by both the chairman and the ranking member that they will defend that in conference.

There are those who say I wish to just vote for the original amendment. That is fine. I am not sure it will pass. I don’t know whether it will pass, but in my judgment, the modification is eminently suitable to accomplish the task at hand and has the added guarantee of the support of the chairman, the ranking member in a conference committee with the House, which I think is worth a great deal. They have given their word, and I believe they will keep it. This*Recordwill reflect that word.

Her amendment was adopted 99-1 (Senator Kyl was the only “Nay” vote).


 12-04-2011, 04:39 AM         #63
DMoney3481 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
i might be trying to move outta the US real soon
 12-04-2011, 07:06 AM         #64
Old Man Quillis 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
This country has been a battleground. Only difference now is everyday white folks can and will be targets.
 12-04-2011, 07:41 AM         #65
StatisticZ 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
 akalimelazer said:
^yes its very funny everything our forefathers worked for & our future gets abolished
sh*t. I'm on the right side of the fence.
 6 years ago '10        #66
daviddunn 11 heat pts11
space
avatar space
space
$2,782 | Props total: 2 2
 killya said:
So no veto of this sh*t yet?
Veto? Obama is probably looking for cover? He already a.ssassinated on US Citizen without trial, why would he want to stop now?
 6 years ago '06        #67
Yung Dilla 1479 heat pts1479
space
avatar space
space
$54,901 | Props total: 25742 25742
well i always heard paris or tokyo were cool places to live my cousin lived in paris for 2 years and loved it not sure about tokyo but i heard it was dope as well...
 6 years ago '10        #68
NYstreetz 1 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$351 | Props total: 7 7
if obama wants another term hell veto this sh*t, if not im saving all my $$$ and getting the f*ck outta here son!
 6 years ago '06        #69
latereg6 39 heat pts39
space
avatar space
space
$2,994 | Props total: 1048 1048
"That martial law sh*t drop, we gone all get got" - Ab-Soul
 6 years ago '06        #70
Johnny Tapwater 3 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$4,548 | Props total: 2676 2676
one block at a time...and n|ggas just watching it happen...
 6 years ago '07        #71
Deniro732 8 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$13,624 | Props total: 2469 2469
 P. Dedos said:
i agree with a kuffi wearing foreigner being treated this way but american citizens whats next after this? i would hate to see
You're a piece of sh*t prejudice muthafu*ka..choke on a d!ck and die f*ggot..as far as this bill ia concerned fu*k that..it won't pass I gaurantee it..and yes i know how fu*ked up this country is and sh*t
 12-04-2011, 11:47 AM         #72
killya 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
There coming for ya guns next. Dont be suprised if they come knocking on the doors of gun owners
 6 years ago '05        #73
lflaxjr_1 1 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$230 | Props total: 0 0
Even if Obama does veto the bill he will still authorize it through "signing statements" like "Bush" did during he's presidency. This has been an open plan for over 16 years, but they're just now letting the slaves know about it. Furthermore, the unconstitutional law has already been used on American's during Bush and Obama.
 6 years ago '07        #74
CadillacVyse 944 heat pts944
space
avatar space
space
$27,675 | Props total: 16961 16961
 CadillacVyse said:


White house threatens to veto bill.
for the ppl that missed it the first time. White house threatens to veto if passed.
 6 years ago '06        #75
Malcolm 34 heat pts34
space
avatar space
space
$6,129 | Props total: 1204 1204
Yeah. Funny thing is they keep saying conspiracy theorists are crazy but the fact is that this was called many years ago. People said it was crazy then and now that it's happening they're pretending like it's not by laughing it off.

Folks, this is VERY simple. Under this law, if you are suspected of being a terrorist, they CAN and most likely will arrest you. There is nothing difficult to interpret, no parts to put together, and it's not in German. Wanna know what a terrorist is? Whatever they deem a terrorist to be. Problem with this is that they won't have clear guidelines and they will lock people up based solely on suspicion. This isn't a conspiracy, it's a fact. So for those who love denying these kinds of stories under the guise that only conspiracy theorists could believe it, please either k!ll yourself or get a better understanding of history. If you can't see the danger something like this poses or can't see your government not using this on real terrorists, again, I ask that you k!ll yourself.


Last edited by Malcolm; 12-04-2011 at 11:51 AM..
 6 years ago '04        #76
facility651 8 heat pts
space
avatar space
space
$1,770 | Props total: 192 192
obama will veto and if it passes again itll take 15-20 years to go into effect so we have plenty of time to get it changed or leave
 6 years ago '10        #77
GBREEZE 260 heat pts260
space
avatar space
space
$12,098 | Props total: 7455 7455

[pic - click to view]

 6 years ago '04        #78
lment 2 heat pts
space
space
space
$2,040 | Props total: 66 66
ya they are prepping for another dip into recession

and a "NWO" isn't a bad thing ya simp a.ss dopes
 6 years ago '06        #79
Sammyboi22 
space
avatar space
space
$13,620 | Props total: 230 230
 daviddunn said:
Veto? Obama is probably looking for cover? He already a.ssassinated on US Citizen without trial, why would he want to stop now?
 12-04-2011, 02:15 PM         #80
marccall08 
space
space
space
$n/a | Props total:  
When it comes you gotta be ready some rights are god given
Home      
  
 

 






most viewed right now
 26
Video inside Who is she!!
31 comments
1 day ago
@thotsdimesetc
most viewed right now
 12
Video inside Throwback: Teen Gangbangers On Jenny Jones Show
63 comments
1 day ago
@wild'ish
most viewed right now
 12
Video inside T-Mobile about to save us from Comcast, Time Warner & AT&T
55 comments
1 day ago
@tech
most viewed right now
 11
Article inside Salma Hayek claims Harvey Weinstein threatened 'I will kill you, don'..
150 comments
1 day ago
@movies
most viewed right now
 6
Image(s) inside Ugly niggas watch ya step
93 comments
1 day ago
@wild'ish
most viewed right now
 4
Image(s) inside The Backshots would be crazy
30 comments
1 day ago
@thotsdimesetc
most viewed right now
 4
Star Wars Last Jedi Spoiler review
21 comments
1 day ago
@movies
most viewed right now
 4
Post Malone almost commits career suicide on stream
279 comments
1 day ago
@hiphop
back to top
register contact Follow BX @ Twitter Follow BX @ Facebook search BX privacy