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 6 years ago '11        #181
Jesszman 2209 heat pts2209
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Nintendo wouldn't exist if it wasn't for pong.

Achievements have been in games for years.

And The Move has been in development since 2001, we didn't even know about the wii in 2001.
 6 years ago '08        #182
Arson 84 heat pts84 OP
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 Jesszman said:
Nintendo wouldn't exist if it wasn't for pong.

Achievements have been in games for years.

And The Move has been in development since 2001, we didn't even know about the wii in 2001.
trophies is a direct copy of achievements, its undeniable. I can't believe you're gonna act like these obvious copy cat moves by Sony are just coincidences.
 6 years ago '11        #183
Jesszman 2209 heat pts2209
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I didn't say trophies aren't copies. But Microsoft didn't do acheivements first. Achievements have been in video games for years, what microsoft did was compile them into one integrated system so you could keep track of them and compare them on a larger scale with your friends. Microsoft innovated in this category, alone with the online system. Sony innovated in the motion controller category with Move, then microsoft integrated with the motion (camera) category with Kinect. If anything, nintendo's been playing catch up. What they've done is make motion controls popular with this generation and thus opening the door to a new era of gaming, we'll see if that era has come to stay. I dont think it has, nintendo looks to be shunning motion controls in favor of whatever they plan to do with the tablet thing. The tablet itself is innovated because we haven't really had anything like that, it's whole "take games out of the console and play them elsewhere" isn't innovated because it's been done before.
 6 years ago '05        #184
Krazie 133 heat pts133
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 Jesszman said:
I didn't say trophies aren't copies. But Microsoft didn't do acheivements first. Achievements have been in video games for years, what microsoft did was compile them into one integrated system so you could keep track of them and compare them on a larger scale with your friends. Microsoft innovated in this category, alone with the online system. Sony innovated in the motion controller category with Move, then microsoft integrated with the motion (camera) category with Kinect. If anything, nintendo's been playing catch up. What they've done is make motion controls popular with this generation and thus opening the door to a new era of gaming, we'll see if that era has come to stay. I dont think it has, nintendo looks to be shunning motion controls in favor of whatever they plan to do with the tablet thing. The tablet itself is innovated because we haven't really had anything like that, it's whole "take games out of the console and play them elsewhere" isn't innovated because it's been done before.


Innovated how? It's practically a direct copy of the Wiimote, with maybe a few tweaks.

And sure "achievements" have been in games for years, but nowhere near what Microsoft came up with. It was pretty much a complete new idea and was quite genius. So genius, Sony integrated them into their system quite awhile after the system launched
 6 years ago '11        #185
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 DJ Krayzie said:


Innovated how? It's practically a direct copy of the Wiimote, with maybe a few tweaks.

And sure "achievements" have been in games for years, but nowhere near what Microsoft came up with. It was pretty much a complete new idea and was quite genius. So genius, Sony integrated them into their system quite awhile after the system launched
I just said that.

And if you actually read my post, we saw move before the wiiremote.
 6 years ago '06        #186
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 Mr Crackee said:
playstation eye toy

Was about to say..how are these xbox fanboys talking about copying when the kinect is a direct copy of the eye toy

playstation gave birth to everything xbox..scientifically proven fact and non debatable ure welcomed to keep trying tho
 6 years ago '11        #187
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 coolio said:
Was about to say..how are these xbox fanboys talking about copying when the kinect is a direct copy of the eye toy

playstation gave birth to everything xbox..scientifically proven fact and non debatable ure welcomed to keep trying tho
where'd the xbox stans go?
 6 years ago '08        #188
Arson 84 heat pts84 OP
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 coolio said:
Was about to say..how are these xbox fanboys talking about copying when the kinect is a direct copy of the eye toy

playstation gave birth to everything xbox..scientifically proven fact and non debatable ure welcomed to keep trying tho
Eye Toy and Kinect are COMPLETELY different technologies. ones just a webcam and the other's a camera that can see 3 dimensional depth, with voice and facial recognition and 3d motion capture. Its like comparing a early 2000s Nokia to a Galaxy Nexus, yeah they're both phones(cameras) but that's where the comparisons stop.

Sony aint birth sh*t
 6 years ago '10        #189
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fanboys are... stupid
 6 years ago '04        #190
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 coolio said:
sony copying microsoft like what?



xbox wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for playstation
If it wasnt for Sega, learn your history fan boy. I hate seeing fanboys from either side go at it, talking about sh*t they dont even know about.

If it wasnt for Sega teaming up with M$ for the dreamcast we wouldnt have xbox

If it wasnt for Nintendo turning down sony we wouldnt have the playstation
 6 years ago '06        #191
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10 pages of garbage. Keep arguing between yourselves, it's obviously getting somewhere...
 6 years ago '06        #192
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 coolio said:
it's already established that, once again, xbox will not do anything innovative..they're gonna focus too much on kinect integration and u'll be stuck playing games where u have to hit balloons out the sky and sh*t

there's already one exclusive rumored, where the whole game consists on u sitting 4 inches away from the kinect and it'll scan and read ur lips as u move them..sequels are already planned as well





playstation on the other hand u know they're gonna actually try to focus on bringing us something new and innovative
Like what? Copy WiiU just like they copied the Wii with Playstation Move?
 6 years ago '06        #193
PG-13 126 heat pts126
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and fu*king @ comparing the eye toy to the kinect...
 6 years ago '11        #194
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 XxC4xX said:
If it wasnt for Sega, learn your history fan boy. I hate seeing fanboys from either side go at it, talking about sh*t they dont even know about.

If it wasnt for Sega teaming up with M$ for the dreamcast we wouldnt have xbox

If it wasnt for Nintendo turning down sony we wouldnt have the playstation
learn your history, sony turned down nintendo, that's why japan got mad and came out with the nintendo 64 DD and we all know how that turned out.
 PG-13 said:
Like what? Copy WiiU just like they copied the Wii with Playstation Move?
what's there to copy? sony already did that stuff this gen. And they didn't copy the wii.
 6 years ago '05        #195
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 KSoraci7 said:
10 pages of garbage. Keep arguing between yourselves, it's obviously getting somewhere...



It started out as Sales news... now it's about pong and sh*t
 6 years ago '05        #196
Krazie 133 heat pts133
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 Jesszman said:
where'd the xbox stans go?
It's Saturday night, apparently only "xbox stans" have a life and better things to do than to be posting on forums?
 6 years ago '11        #197
Jesszman 2209 heat pts2209
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 DJ Krayzie said:
It's Saturday night, apparently only "xbox stans" have a life and better things to do than to be posting on forums?
I've been writing papers all day so i haven't done anything
 6 years ago '06        #198
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 Arson said:
Eye Toy and Kinect are COMPLETELY different technologies. ones just a webcam and the other's a camera that can see 3 dimensional depth, with voice and facial recognition and 3d motion capture. Its like comparing a early 2000s Nokia to a Galaxy Nexus, yeah they're both phones(cameras) but that's where the comparisons stop.

Sony aint birth sh*t


they got the idea for kinect from the eye toy


bottom line is playstation did motion control before xbox..this is a fact that's impossible to change no matter how much it bothers u u just gotta deal with it







as for nintendo..it's already been established that sony was working on the motion sh*t before them too



video from 2004 way before the wii ever existed


[video - click to view]









and a couple of articles about how nintendo infact copies sony's ideas









like i said playstation brings the innovation and as we just saw, this is scientifically proven and cannot be changed by a butthurt fanboys emotions..attempts at doing so are always welcomed tho
 6 years ago '11        #199
Jesszman 2209 heat pts2209
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coolio just ethered the whole 360 fanbase
 6 years ago '06        #200
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Wasn't the kinect ment for the ps2? And Sony didn't want it? I'm high as sh*t so I could be wrong
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