NBA Owners have made proposal of 51%..Only Downhill from here

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 7 years ago '04        #161
Cali 
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 YonkasNative said:
Its obvious. It's not that they're slaves literally, it's more like the slave mentality. The owners, mostly white, are telling the players, mostly black, that they're taking a pay cut because the owners are not making enough money. America is still not over slavery and it will take some time.
This is blasphemus ... slavery ... are you serious?!?!
It has nothing to do racism
It has to do with Big bank not paying little bank.
Its about our economy.
No one is buying anything. People are still losing houses
Therefore the ads arent productive.
Pull the ads you pull the revenue.
People arent buying tickets.
No ads no tickets ... the owners arent making the money they used to
Now they want to trickle down their loses to the players and re-neg contracts.
 7 years ago '04        #162
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 VerballyAbusive said:

The players are already filthy rich REGARDLESS. The owners are looking out for everyone BESIDES the players. If the owners eat, so does everyone else on the staff. The players are only concerned with THEMSELVES.
BS ... The owners are filthy rich ... they dont want to lower their standard of living.
Yes, players are guaranteed. Why? The reason being the owners make promises. They make the contracts. Players dont make contracts they make demands.

Players are not filthy rich ... They make money but they are not wealthy like the owners. Owners who have generations of money unlike players who probably are the first generation of wealth in their family, community, or even city they came from.

Owners only care about not selling their summer house in the hamptons and remodeling their helicopter pads in manhatten.

They dont want to downgrade their lifestyle even though the rest of the world is going to sh*t.
 7 years ago '05        #163
Swisher sweet 87 heat pts87
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 notoriousthugzz said:
you really don't help your argument when you spell Lose as loose, not once, but twice. Loose refers to "Not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached".. you know like that LOOSE a.ss pus*y your mom has. Go read a book you dumb piece of sh*t. Also that would be you're not your. Jesus you fu*kin illiterate piece of sh*t, do you even have a GED? And if slaves are making over a mill a year than what the fu*k do you call the american public? You should have been swallowed


 Agentzer0oo0 said:
I thought the players wanted 51%?

This^
 7 years ago '04        #164
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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Bottom line is, both owners and players need to man the fu*k up and realize there is more at stake then their petty bullsh*t... i.e. Fans, arena workers, etc... If it wasn't for the fans, there would be no NBA...
 11-07-2011, 10:17 AM         #165
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 GREAT1NE said:
Yea the "slavery" argument is ridiculous, go to Africa and ask some the of the kids who've watched there homes & families get destroyed if the they would rather have the slavery were your forced to k!ll someone in your village with a knife in order to live, which then has you forced into a military group which raids villages, forces you to k!ll innocent people and f!ghts with really only one way out, or the "slavery" were your paid millions to put a ball in a hoop...



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 11-07-2011, 10:48 AM         #166
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
@ this n*gga callin others idiots
 7 years ago '04        #167
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 Cali said:
BS ... The owners are filthy rich ... they dont want to lower their standard of living.
Yes, players are guaranteed. Why? The reason being the owners make promises. They make the contracts. Players dont make contracts they make demands.

Players are not filthy rich ... They make money but they are not wealthy like the owners. Owners who have generations of money unlike players who probably are the first generation of wealth in their family, community, or even city they came from.

Owners only care about not selling their summer house in the hamptons and remodeling their helicopter pads in manhatten.

They dont want to downgrade their lifestyle even though the rest of the world is going to sh*t.
You're bringing all types of irrelevant details into the argument.

From a business standpoint, the owners should be able to take more of the share since their income is not GUARANTEED. I think it's fair. The owners have the possibility to LOSE money. The players make money no matter what.
 7 years ago '06        #168
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the initial investment was on the part of the owners. Its their dollar that grew so they deserve its benefits. The players at the end of the day are employees.
 7 years ago '05        #169
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
and it is the owners who create the vehicle in which the players showcase their talents. Best believe that the owners can find other outlets to make money.....what do you say about 90% of the NBA? Time for the players to open their eyes

Yeah yeah yeah, they gonna create their own league. You know how much money is involved in that.....how much sweat equity is involved..
 7 years ago '04        #170
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 nawtyxes said:

Yeah yeah yeah, they gonna create their own league. You know how much money is involved in that.....how much sweat equity is involved..
Yeah alot of money would be involed. But at the same time, alot of investors would flock to it. The money will go to wherever the players go. No one gives a fukk about the owners.
 7 years ago '04        #171
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 m!ck3y said:
the initial investment was on the part of the owners. Its their dollar that grew so they deserve its benefits. The players at the end of the day are employees.

exactly
 7 years ago '10        #172
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 ROger Rabbit said:
yea sure

n*gga waited 3 pages to respond to that ether



shut the fuk up b4 i really slap you into your stable



















he's scared


























next
you're delusional bi*ch boy. keep reachin you've run out of sh*t to say. you shouldn't have even addressed me in the first place because you're clearly lacking intelligence.
 7 years ago '04        #173
#RAPTORSWON 228 heat pts228
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If they end up decertifying this really fu*ks over the 8-15th men on each team... Guys getting those minimum contract and benefits... they're fu*ked
 7 years ago '04        #174
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 GUNIT-FINEST said:
your stupid players have come down from 57 percent to 51 we are talking about

over 100 million dollars A YEAR IN LOOSE u idiots man if stupid fans are just gonna be \

jealous of players cause u make nothing then just say that wat it is. Owners will never loose

cause the general public like yourself is to busy crying about how much players make WHO ARE THE WHOLE fu*kING GAME.
what you don't understand is that the economy isn't how it use to be when they made the deal for 57%...To me, 50-52% is ideal for the players since the league is losing money. What good are the players if the league can't make money and then the whole a.ssociation is gone? yea, without the players there isn't a product but without owners, there isn't players or teams...Stern made the NBA what it is today and its only getting more popular throughout the world.

the players don't know what they are doing, they are just listening to the heads of the committee..half of these players never finished or went to college and you want them to negotiate on a multi-billion dollar business? Take the deal because I guarantee if they go through the court system, they will not get 51%.
 11-07-2011, 02:31 PM         #175
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 juny said:
wat happened to playing for the love of the game lol


funny one.
 7 years ago '07        #176
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 doczdaname said:
what you don't understand is that the economy isn't how it use to be when they made the deal for 57%...To me, 50-52% is ideal for the players since the league is losing money. What good are the players if the league can't make money and then the whole a.ssociation is gone? yea, without the players there isn't a product but without owners, there isn't players or teams...Stern made the NBA what it is today and its only getting more popular throughout the world.

the players don't know what they are doing, they are just listening to the heads of the committee..half of these players never finished or went to college and you want them to negotiate on a multi-billion dollar business? Take the deal because I guarantee if they go through the court system, they will not get 51%.
but 57% isn't a fixed amout of dollars. their percentage fluctuates with the economy. if the league has a down year, that 57% is still less money because it's proportional. and the fact is they haven't been having down years. the real problem here is ridiculously high non-player costs. revenue has actually been UP in recent years. it increased 5% last year. if non-player costs were the same as they were 10 years ago, it would have been the most profitable season in NBA history. how is the league going to actually be bringing in more and more revenue, and yet u claim to be losing MORE money than before, all while players r making a fixed proportion? that means the revenue owners have been taking in has been growing but they've been spending so much money ELSEWHERE that it cancelled it out. where is it all going?

even so, players have said OK we'll eat that, but they're trying to squeeze them even more.
 11-07-2011, 08:16 PM         #177
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why are nba players are being mentioned by the term slaves? they get more money in one paycheck than what yall get in a year.
 7 years ago '08        #178
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 luker1920 said:
yea fu*k it make 1 million instead of 2.5

fu*king slaves these guys are
I bet if you were playing in the NBA you wouldnt be saying that!
 7 years ago '09        #179
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 notoriousthugzz said:
you really don't help your argument when you spell Lose as loose, not once, but twice. Loose refers to "Not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached".. you know like that LOOSE a.ss pus*y your mom has. Go read a book you dumb piece of sh*t. Also that would be you're not your. Jesus you fu*kin illiterate piece of sh*t, do you even have a GED? And if slaves are making over a mill a year than what the fu*k do you call the american public? You should have been swallowed

:thx: this guys funny but it just sucks that everyone has still yet to blame the owners for signing players because they felt "pressure" to lose fan base when they couldn't afford it, they want more money to allow themselves to fu*k it and it wont hurt their books because of MONEY...when u run a business you're supposed to profit but not take huge risk like signing arenas or lewis to 100 plus million when u could've did 2 or 3 yr contracts with stipulations for extensions if injuries or performance...just crazy...these players mostly come from NOTHING...so yea the players argue over a few percentage points but every 2 to 4% is worth 50 to 80 million, everyone do ya homework and take classes on business or read a book before you think you can make an educated argument or opinion...if the nba loses a season it'll be the owners fault not the players...especially in florida where all star weekend will be and where im @, i'd hate to see it but fu*k it, who else are they gonna put on the court nobody wants to see the globetrotters anymore, they've already lost 100 mil and thats what their arguing about now..lol greed is the factor here...
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